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Post by Chopsen on Aug 19, 2024 18:10:56 GMT
I started watching furiosa last night and really wasn't getting it. Tbh I never really understood the fuss about any of the max max films.
Plus the CGI was awful.
I find the tone really weird. It's overly silly while also being really po faced about it.
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Post by Whizzo on Aug 19, 2024 18:13:39 GMT
Sorry, wasn't trying to bait. A mate of mine was saying it was disappointing and got flack on release. I didn't read anything about it on release myself so just took it there had been internet moaning. Glad to know there wasn't! Anyway! Tis good. I liked the Dementor, a lovely ott baddie. The post after yours, not your one.
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Post by lordofthedunce on Aug 19, 2024 18:18:48 GMT
Sorry, wasn't trying to bait. A mate of mine was saying it was disappointing and got flack on release. I didn't read anything about it on release myself so just took it there had been internet moaning. Glad to know there wasn't! Anyway! Tis good. I liked the Dementor, a lovely ott baddie. The post after yours, not your one. Aha! 😁
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Post by lordofthedunce on Aug 19, 2024 18:22:40 GMT
I started watching furiosa last night and really wasn't getting it. Tbh I never really understood the fuss about any of the max max films. Plus the CGI was awful. I find the tone really weird. It's overly silly while also being really po faced about it. I thought the tone was intentional, almost black comedy at times. Many of the characters pitiful in their desperation and it's all utterly hopeless.
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Post by rawshark on Aug 19, 2024 18:24:32 GMT
I don’t think there was much negative online sentiment about Furiosa - but it didn’t set the box office on fire. I think between that, the relatively disappointing return of The Fall Guy and Cineworld’s ongoing financial issues, there was an overall feeling of pessimism about the viability of cinema at the time. Things have recovered a bit since then though.
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Post by zisssou on Aug 20, 2024 12:44:08 GMT
Bring back VHS. Back in the day you wouldn't notice the CGI being dodgy.
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Post by wunty on Aug 20, 2024 12:56:10 GMT
Don't worry, we'll notice it less and less as we get older and start having cataracts.
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Post by wunty on Aug 20, 2024 12:57:35 GMT
To be fair all I need to do is take my contact lenses out then I don't notice the dodgy CGI. Don't notice the screen either mind you. Or anything beyond 3cm from my nose.
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Post by Reviewer on Aug 20, 2024 13:07:01 GMT
THE INSTIGATORS APPLETV 6/10
The cast is fantastic but nearly all of them are wasted with very little to work with. Casey Affleck is probably best out of all of them, others look a bit bored or only shout.
The plot is a bit stupid but better than most. Overall, underwhelming.
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Post by Danno on Aug 20, 2024 18:53:15 GMT
Joe Pesci is such a fucking savage, he's brilliant
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Post by addyb on Aug 20, 2024 19:15:38 GMT
Just watched Romulus. Really enjoyed it until the last 15 minutes.
7/10
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 20, 2024 20:34:04 GMT
Alien Romulus
Just got out of the cinema and well yeah, this wasn't the one chief. I found the characters infuriating, let's be honest there were no characters just rough outlines of people who said stupid things and did stupid things. Once or twice it felt like it was going somewhere but you could feel that it was beholden with what came before it and didn't feel confident enough to do it's own thing at the end where it was beat for beat the last 15 minutes or so of Alien. IMO, like Terminator, they need to let it go and lay the franchise to rest.
Game over, man/5
Actually I'm being harsh David Jonsson was really good, like really good. I felt like he was done a disservice.
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Post by simple on Aug 20, 2024 20:40:52 GMT
It came so close but then they abandoned the idea of using a whippet in a latex xenomorph suit. The fools. if you're going to watch it, find the assembly cut. I prefer the theatrical version. This is true of all the Alien films.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Aug 20, 2024 21:40:48 GMT
if you're going to watch it, find the assembly cut. I prefer the theatrical version. This is true of all the Alien films.
Willian Gibson did two drafts of a screenplay for Alien 3, the first one ended up being adapted by Pat Cadigan into a novelisation:
Dark Horse adapted Gibsons' second draft screenplay as a graphic novel, which you can get a load of here:
Notable in that both Hicks and Newt survive instead of dying offscreen.
Apparently Audible did one from this second draft as well.
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Post by simple on Aug 20, 2024 21:48:58 GMT
I think I’ll have to check that out.
I read all the Alan Dean Foster novelisations when I was younger and those were confusing to teen me since they’re all much closer to the director’s cuts of those first three films being based on earlier versions of the scripts.
The characters in the Steve Perry books are Hicks and Newt with their names changed after 3 killed them, aren’t they?
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Post by nexus6 on Aug 20, 2024 22:50:23 GMT
I prefer the theatrical version. This is true of all the Alien films.
Willian Gibson did two drafts of a screenplay for Alien 3, the first one ended up being adapted by Pat Cadigan into a novelisation:
Dark Horse adapted Gibsons' second draft screenplay as a graphic novel, which you can get a load of here:
Notable in that both Hicks and Newt survive instead of dying offscreen.
Apparently Audible did one from this second draft as well.
I have this sitting on my shelf to be read! Just have to finish the Horus Heresy and Siege of Terra series first….
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Post by Lizard on Aug 21, 2024 1:51:01 GMT
I think I’ll have to check that out. I read all the Alan Dean Foster novelisations when I was younger and those were confusing to teen me since they’re all much closer to the director’s cuts of those first three films being based on earlier versions of the scripts. The characters in the Steve Perry books are Hicks and Newt with their names changed after 3 killed them, aren’t they? Yes, Billie and something else, Ecosse maybe? My teenage self's first literary sex scene was one of those books. Don't give much of a fuck about Newt and Hicks anyway, I prefer British criminals as supporting characters in my Alien films.
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Post by LegendaryApe on Aug 21, 2024 4:25:24 GMT
I think I’ll have to check that out. I read all the Alan Dean Foster novelisations when I was younger and those were confusing to teen me since they’re all much closer to the director’s cuts of those first three films being based on earlier versions of the scripts. The characters in the Steve Perry books are Hicks and Newt with their names changed after 3 killed them, aren’t they? Yes, Billie and something else, Ecosse maybe? My teenage self's first literary sex scene was one of those books. Don't give much of a fuck about Newt and Hicks anyway, I prefer British criminals as supporting characters in my Alien films. I remember Billie in one of the novels I read when I was younger. And also was my first text-based sexual interface. I reread that book a few times.
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Post by damagedinc on Aug 21, 2024 4:45:43 GMT
Audible does a short dramatisation of the screenplay. Biehn and henrikson are in it as well.
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Post by zisssou on Aug 21, 2024 8:22:43 GMT
I've been meaning to buy the book for a long time, but seems fairly average from reviews.
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Post by gamingdave on Aug 21, 2024 9:46:41 GMT
Alien: Romulus (2024) - 75/100 - I've watched Alien and Aliens loads of times over the years, most recently last year - they are both 10/10 films for me. I've watched 3 and 4 a couple of times each, but not recently - from memory they are flawed but OK. Prometheus I saw in the cinema at release, and once again at home - preferred it the second time, but it's still a disappointment. Covenant I only watched once at home - utterly forgettable.
I really enjoyed Romulus. It looked fantastic for the most part, a couple of ropey CGI sections let it down slightly, but the set design was spot on. The sound design is also fantastic and I thought most of the cast were great in their roles. Some solid tension but not really scary. There was a slight lull in the middle but it picks up pace at the end and I loved the final 15 minutes.
They went to far with the throwbacks at one point and it felt totally unnecessary, but I didn't mind them retreading old ground as much as it seems to disappoint others.
Overall I think it's the best since the original two films - not great but a worthy entry in the series.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 21, 2024 10:46:40 GMT
The more I think about it, the more it comes across as a fan film with a budget. There's a lot to like but it really squanders that goodwill so readily. I don't even know if it was studio involvement of Alvarez really wrote that stuff.
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Post by Duffking on Aug 21, 2024 12:05:36 GMT
I think it could have done with a longer running time personally. If they'd pushed it toward the 2h15m mark or so it could have meant more time for establishing the characters at the start and then more time in the middle to have the individual alien be a threat (it felt like it was barely any time at all before it went into aliens territory), and some more scenes where the cast just... interact.
It's only right at the end of Aliens where it goes set piece, set piece, set piece. Part of the reason the characters are flat is because there's not really any character scenes in between the set pieces.
And of course, tone the fan service down FFS. Off the top of my head there's the whole CGI necromancy thing, repeated referential shots of ripley in the elevator, the "how to use a gun" ripoff scene, the Alien 3 shot aping in the elevator shaft, *that* repeated line in the elevator, the identical "getting the space suit on" scene... it was just too much. Do all that stuff, fine, but the exact shot reuse stuff wasn't needed and it feels entirely isolated to the last hour of the film too.
I still enjoyed it though.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 21, 2024 12:12:15 GMT
It wouldn’t need to be longer if they picked just one of the movies to slavishly ape. Is there one alien chasing them or shitloads? Why not both!
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 21, 2024 12:13:42 GMT
It did not need to be longer.
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Post by smoothpete on Aug 21, 2024 12:22:54 GMT
The CG character looked really bad to me and was a mistake. Uncanny valley as fuck. Just cast someone new, who cares?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 21, 2024 12:33:38 GMT
The CG character looked really bad to me and was a mistake. Uncanny valley as fuck. Just cast someone new, who cares?
My thoughts exactly. People of our age will do the Dicaprio meme but anyone younger will most likely not give a shit and wonder why is there a badly cgi'd face on the screen. I imagine they thought this will make the audience gasp.
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Post by Duffking on Aug 21, 2024 12:38:36 GMT
From a lore perspective you can forgive them making androids look the same because they're all of the same model, but the guy's fucking dead so just cast someone else as your exposition dump device and be done with it.
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Post by zisssou on Aug 21, 2024 12:39:00 GMT
Every film that has a CG character, who's supposed to be a famous actor, is terrible and it needs to go in the bin.
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Post by wunty on Aug 21, 2024 12:55:13 GMT
[redacted]
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