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Post by Dougs on Dec 30, 2023 22:38:35 GMT
Indy 5 - 6.5/10. As per previous comments really. An enjoyable enough ride but it's a bit by the numbers. And definitely way too long. Still, I liked it and wasn't bored at any point. May rewatch Crystal Skull to see how it compares, it's been a while.
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Post by Bill the kidding on Dec 31, 2023 6:45:32 GMT
I was bored during the train sequence, by the time he walking into the third carriage of Nazis by mistake.
6.5 is about right, but I think it's the only action film where I've been more bored during the action sequences than the other bits.
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Post by Bill the kidding on Dec 31, 2023 6:52:26 GMT
It's a bit weird that Disney can't seem to make successful 2d animations these days, but people like Ghibli and the Long Way North people can do it.
That said, if you look at the 'Family Movies' section of any app then they're 99% Pixar style movies. (And yet Japan still seems happy pumping out 2d movies to great success).
Haven't actually seen The Princess and the Frog, despite wanting to. But Tangled was great.
Obviously referring to the plastic surgery than her age! I just think it's sad that so many actors feel they have to go under the knife as they get older. I get that Hollywood creates an (unrealistic) expectation but be more Judi imo. They canāt win whatever they do really. āAgeing gracefullyā like Judi Dench or Helen Mirren really means having just enough surgery to not look offensively old without going so far as it to be obvious, staying in ridiculously good shape for your age and being blessed with genetics. It was the same with Top Gun Maverick, where Kelly McGillis basically posted 'I look like a woman of my age and I'm fine with that' while twitter/youtube went on a 'You'll never guess what Kelly McGillis looks like now!!' trip.
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Post by kal on Dec 31, 2023 7:06:43 GMT
Suspect Japanās āhappinessā to continue to make 2D animated films isnāt entirely unrelated to their cheap labour laws.
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Post by MolarAmšµ on Dec 31, 2023 7:15:38 GMT
I don't know if it's still the case, but a lot of anime production used to be outsourced to Korea, China and Vietnam too. Which is even cheaper.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 31, 2023 9:01:21 GMT
Wish has 2D animation in it doesn't it? Sure I read it was the first one in ages to use it. Sounds like they went down the middle and didn't commit to it fully.
My kids are 5 and 3, so a bit young but they're obsessed with all the animation stuff from Disney along with the obvious frozen moana etc. They won't touch the live action stuff with a barge pole. Mostly due to less vibrant colours I'm sure and less character in the visuals.
I'm suprised they don't do more 2D stuff and also suprised that remakes of the old ones arnt done in the 3D style instead of live action. They must make money because they keep pumping them out but I can't think of one good live action disney film.
They're making moana which just seems to be a dwayne Johnson vanity project.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 31, 2023 9:05:01 GMT
Leave the world behind
Well acted and well made, felt a bit on the nose towards the end and did some weird stuff with deer but on the whole really enjoyed it and defo worth a watch.
Kamikaze tesla/10
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Post by Vandelay on Dec 31, 2023 9:15:38 GMT
Wish has 2D animation in it doesn't it? Sure I read it was the first one in ages to use it. Sounds like they went down the middle and didn't commit to it fully. It is fully computer animated, but they try to combine the look of Disney's traditional animation and their modern 3D style. Glancing at the Wikipedia page, seems they did originally consider going completely traditional, but they decided the computer animation would give them more flexibility. Saw Wish a few weeks ago and thought that it was a really great story idea, with mediocre execution. The characters are all fairly forgettable and there isn't anything particularly surprising that happens along the way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2023 9:36:33 GMT
The live action remakes are entirely pointless. Not just because they follow the OG's scene for scene, but because they're nearly entirely cgi.
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Post by rawshark on Dec 31, 2023 9:43:54 GMT
They started off promisingly with the Jungle Book, as that was basically a different take on the story. Since then itās been a bit copy paste.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Dec 31, 2023 9:44:00 GMT
Leave the world behind Well acted and well made, felt a bit on the nose towards the end and did some weird stuff with deer but on the whole really enjoyed it and defo worth a watch. Kamikaze tesla/10 Yea was better than I thought it would be. As for the deer - not sure either but found this: "The deerās symbolism is fairly simple, too. āDeer are peaceful creatures,ā Esmail explained. āTo turn that sweet image into now this sort of ominous, menacing, almost warning ā I thought was really interesting. Thatās the trick about this movie. We always tried to take things that we never really considered a threat and then turn it around on them.ā Still doesn't explain why they are behaving like this. We have deer where I live and they always scarper (whether one or twenty). I assume they are doing something similar as in The Queen when she sees the stag.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 31, 2023 10:37:17 GMT
Leave the world behind Well acted and well made, felt a bit on the nose towards the end and did some weird stuff with deer but on the whole really enjoyed it and defo worth a watch. Kamikaze tesla/10 Yea was better than I thought it would be. As for the deer - not sure either but found this: "The deerās symbolism is fairly simple, too. āDeer are peaceful creatures,ā Esmail explained. āTo turn that sweet image into now this sort of ominous, menacing, almost warning ā I thought was really interesting. Thatās the trick about this movie. We always tried to take things that we never really considered a threat and then turn it around on them.ā Still doesn't explain why they are behaving like this. We have deer where I live and they always scarper (whether one or twenty). I assume they are doing something similar as in The Queen when she sees the stag. Yeah I read the whole thing is not to be taken to literally....its supposed to feel like a dream/nightmare. I assumed it was some sort of "warning" to tie in with the story of God sending help.
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Post by Syrette on Dec 31, 2023 10:52:13 GMT
It's the live action Moana that grates the most for me. Just seems utterly pointless. A live action sequel I'd find a bit more palatable.
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Post by simple on Dec 31, 2023 10:56:22 GMT
Yāknow who does excellent 2d animation?
Cartoon Saloon in Ireland - The Story of Kels, Song of the Sea, Wolfwalkers, Puffin Rock, My Fatherās Dragon etc
Arguably the closest thing to Ghibli we have in the west content-wise and consistently criminally overlooked at the Oscars (Song of the Sea missed out to Big Hero 6?!?)
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Post by MolarAmšµ on Dec 31, 2023 10:59:49 GMT
Yeah, Secret of Kells is sublime.
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Post by cristar on Dec 31, 2023 13:17:27 GMT
Thanksgiving New Eli Roth horror mystery. Nothing original here really. A decent murder mystery, with a large helping of splatter. A bit of satire of things like Black Friday and Business CEOs. Right up my street. 8/10
Saltburn Not as extreme and disturbing as I'd read. Certainly some gross and weird scenes though, but overall like a feature length episode of Skins: Rich Edition. The two lads basically share all the Characteristics of Tony, the sister is Effie, and even the music like Bloc Party is from Skins.
That's not a knock, because in saying that, I loved the original run of Skins. And this is well made, and very well acted with a brilliant cast. 8/10
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2023 13:18:43 GMT
The bath scene is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.
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Post by MolarAmšµ on Dec 31, 2023 13:19:32 GMT
I thought it was hot.
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Post by simple on Dec 31, 2023 13:31:11 GMT
Yeah, Secret of Kells is sublime. That too
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Post by askew on Dec 31, 2023 13:34:53 GMT
I mean itās pretty dilute at that point. Or perhaps turned into scrambled eggs š
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Post by rawshark on Dec 31, 2023 14:06:49 GMT
I mean itās pretty dilute at that point. Or perhaps turned into scrambled eggs š I mean the guy might have had a massive farting session before Quick turned up. Or he might have been picking out all his butt nugs. Or maybe he just didnāt feel like getting out of the bath and had one too many capri suns that dayā¦ Baths are just minging.
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Post by geefe on Dec 31, 2023 14:07:33 GMT
I never watched Skins. I was the perfect age for it and a girl I knew was apparently background in a few eps (she'd got her big break in cut scenes from Touch of Frost as the grieving daughter) but I was never taken. Same as I didn't watch Inbetweeners during original run.
Seeing Saltburn compared to Skins and Brideshead Revisited isn't selling it to me. Literally it's only Barry that's got me interested.
Is it gory or weird weird? Compared to say Killing of a Sacred Deer/ Lobster/ stuff by Argento?
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Post by geefe on Dec 31, 2023 14:08:43 GMT
Though what user rawshark suggests reminds me of something best reserved for the dating thread
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Post by rawshark on Dec 31, 2023 14:15:43 GMT
It's the live action Moana that grates the most for me. Just seems utterly pointless. A live action sequel I'd find a bit more palatable. Itās not even eight years oldā¦ if youāre going to remake something it should have a wave of nostalgia about it. To put it in perspective, itās like doing a remake of Rogue One.
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Post by rawshark on Dec 31, 2023 14:17:26 GMT
Though what user rawshark suggests reminds me of something best reserved for the dating thread Itās not gory. Well, not in the way you might be thinking. Best I can describe it as is a bit yucky in parts.
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Post by skalpadda on Dec 31, 2023 14:49:11 GMT
It's a bit weird that Disney can't seem to make successful 2d animations these days, but people like Ghibli and the Long Way North people can do it.
That said, if you look at the 'Family Movies' section of any app then they're 99% Pixar style movies. (And yet Japan still seems happy pumping out 2d movies to great success).
Haven't actually seen The Princess and the Frog, despite wanting to. But Tangled was great.
Hasn't Ghibli in particular been having a bit of trouble in the last decades with anything that isn't one of Miyazaki's "final" films?
There's a lot of very good European 2D animation. Cartoon Saloon was already mentioned and I'd recommend their movies to anyone, and there's a pretty steady output of excellent stuff from the continent.
In terms of money made they probably wouldn't even register for a company like Disney though.
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Post by geefe on Dec 31, 2023 15:05:07 GMT
I guess 2D to kids now is old fashioned. Anyone under the age of, say, 25, has grown up with pretty decent CGI. A 15 year old has only known MCU.
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Post by technoish on Dec 31, 2023 15:36:16 GMT
They know Peppa Pig, Bluey, etc...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2023 15:41:12 GMT
Plus easy access to all the 2d classics their parents will show them.
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Post by rawshark on Dec 31, 2023 16:50:42 GMT
Cartoon Network is still largely hand drawn, as is anything out of Japan. I donāt think 2D things are considered old fashioned, per se, but they may occupy different spaces.
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