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Post by zisssou on Nov 19, 2024 11:07:30 GMT
She likes horror, and if I remember the trailers leant a bit into that way.
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Post by simple on Nov 19, 2024 11:08:43 GMT
Madam Web (2024) **This was the internet's punching bag earlier this year and although I can see why, it's not as terrible as its reputation suggests. In fact, it's not terrible at all; it's just a bored shrug of a movie. A victim, really, of Sony's desire to turn minor Spidey characters into leading figures, this has a nonsensical plot and moment-to-moment instances of people just behaving like utter gooseberries. There is, almost, some decent mileage in Cassie's precog powers tipping into the uncanny or spooky; or using the knowledge of the future to predict danger in a cool action scene. But for the most part it's four women mutedly arguing in a bad forest set or a cheap motel room set whilst our implausible villain walks around barefoot. It's stupid. It makes no sense. Despite a cast containing several very good actors, every performance is flat. It's not hateful, just dull; a sad, weary slump onto a sofa masquerading as a Spider-Man film. (Sky) My general feeling toward all of Sony’s Spidey-villian-verse movies is that they generally aren’t that bad but they are all quite dated. They feel like they should exist alongside Blade, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, X-Men and Raimi’s original trilogy. That’s the tone and type of story they have. But there’s been 50 MCU films since then and what people think a superhero film is isn’t this anymore. I also think that was one of the (many) problems Snyder ran into at DC. The MCU has essentially become a genre itself and audiences hear “superhero” and expect Iron Man now. I won’t share it again but there is a fan trailer for Morbius that uses that Evanescence song and the whole thing suddenly makes a lot more sense that way. |
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Post by britesparc on Nov 19, 2024 11:25:59 GMT
Yeah I agree with that. It's even the way they're shot, funnily enough. Madam Web is even SET in 2003!
There's also a messiness to them though. All of them, really, but Venom (at least in its central performances) leans into the crazier aspects of it so can get away with it more. But you get the strong feeling the stories have been pulled apart in both pre- and post-production in a way that makes them just feel threadbare.
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Post by Zomoniac on Nov 19, 2024 11:29:01 GMT
I haven’t seen any of the villain films, and thought the one MCU Spider-Man I did see (the first one) was a pile of wank, but I’ve seen the trailer for Kraven in the cinema a bunch of times and it’s definitely got my interest.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 19, 2024 11:37:50 GMT
I enjoyed both Venom films a lot. Very silly, don't take themselves too seriously or outstay their welcome and even Hardy's mumbling didn't bother me too much.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 19, 2024 11:56:30 GMT
Madam Web (2024) **This was the internet's punching bag earlier this year and although I can see why, it's not as terrible as its reputation suggests. In fact, it's not terrible at all; it's just a bored shrug of a movie. A victim, really, of Sony's desire to turn minor Spidey characters into leading figures, this has a nonsensical plot and moment-to-moment instances of people just behaving like utter gooseberries. There is, almost, some decent mileage in Cassie's precog powers tipping into the uncanny or spooky; or using the knowledge of the future to predict danger in a cool action scene. But for the most part it's four women mutedly arguing in a bad forest set or a cheap motel room set whilst our implausible villain walks around barefoot. It's stupid. It makes no sense. Despite a cast containing several very good actors, every performance is flat. It's not hateful, just dull; a sad, weary slump onto a sofa masquerading as a Spider-Man film. (Sky) My general feeling toward all of Sony’s Spidey-villian-verse movies is that they generally aren’t that bad but they are all quite dated. They feel like they should exist alongside Blade, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, X-Men and Raimi’s original trilogy. That’s the tone and type of story they have. But there’s been 50 MCU films since then and what people think a superhero film is isn’t this anymore. I also think that was one of the (many) problems Snyder ran into at DC. The MCU has essentially become a genre itself and audiences hear “superhero” and expect Iron Man now. I won’t share it again but there is a fan trailer for Morbius that uses that Evanescence song and the whole thing suddenly makes a lot more sense that way. Nah, Morbius is pure reheated shit. |
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Post by robthehermit on Nov 19, 2024 12:29:49 GMT
Don't Move
Standard serial killer affair. It was ok, nothing to write home about though.
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Post by rawshark on Nov 19, 2024 12:45:12 GMT
Somewhere, a middle-aged man is really looking forward to Kraven the Hunter.
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Post by Zomoniac on Nov 19, 2024 12:49:19 GMT
Somewhere, a middle-aged man is really looking forward to Kraven the Hunter. See me, four posts up. Even though I don’t know who he is or anything about him. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 19, 2024 13:01:03 GMT
I didn't think Madame Web was that bad. Not that good either.
There were flashes of a good idea at the core with the time 'travel' stuff, but as you say the execution was a bit dated/lacking.
The Terminator For Girls would be a slightly sexist but not inaccurate description of it. Genius, really. My eldest has been bugging me to watch it, but I made her watch T2 instead.  |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 19, 2024 13:52:19 GMT
One of problems the Kraven movie has is the version of Kraven in Spider-Man 2 was really good and the film version almost certainly won't be anywhere close. Sony sabotaging itself!
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 19, 2024 13:54:06 GMT
Megan - genius idiot creates a terminator furby. And she really does. I have to admire that it rips off at least three Terminator movies in 90 minutes. It’s the kind of efficiency I can get on board with. The highlight of the movie was when the girl and I both pointed to the screen like Leo when she started TikTok dancing and shouted ‘she’s doing the thing!!’ at the same time. A real bonding moment. 6/10 Biggest issue I had with M3GAN was it was an R rated film at its heart that went PG-13 and it felt very toothless, it's enjoyable enough but it really pulls its punches. |
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Post by britesparc on Nov 19, 2024 14:01:07 GMT
I think Kraven looks like all these Sony Spidey movies: they've added a load of backstory and empathy onto a character in order to make them more of a hero than a villain, and then stuffed the film with tons of references to the wider Spider-Man universe (eg Rhino being in it). I think it's probably going to be as two-star as most of the others.
Two things it does have in its favour, though, if the trailer are anything to go by: some decently-shot fight scenes; and Russell Crowe hamming it up in a dodgy Russian accent. I now have this alternate film in my head where instead of this they made a third Andrew Garfield movie and Crowe was Kraven hunting Spider-Man in New York.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 19, 2024 14:13:21 GMT
I feel confident in the fact that it will be absolute bobbins and be another production that secures Sony's obligation in pumping out varying levels of shite to keep the Spider-Man IP.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 19, 2024 14:14:05 GMT
I didn't think Madame Web was that bad. Not that good either.
There were flashes of a good idea at the core with the time 'travel' stuff, but as you say the execution was a bit dated/lacking.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 19, 2024 14:54:38 GMT
Biggest issue I had with M3GAN was it was an R rated film at its heart that went PG-13 and it felt very toothless, it's enjoyable enough but it really pulls its punches. I don't know about that. Like most Blumhouse Movies its an algorithmic YA horror movie and its pitched perfectly at like 13-16 year olds. If they went any harder it would have looked absolutely ludicrous |
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Post by britesparc on Nov 19, 2024 15:51:05 GMT
I didn't think Madame Web was that bad. Not that good either.
There were flashes of a good idea at the core with the time 'travel' stuff, but as you say the execution was a bit dated/lacking.
Oh, but I just remembered the bits in the jungle, which were mind-numbingly awful. Oh god, when she fucks off to Peru for a week and immediately finds the village of the lost spider people. At least Dakota Johnson has the sense to look embarrassed most of the time. |
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Post by rawshark on Nov 19, 2024 15:54:19 GMT
One of problems the Kraven movie has is the version of Kraven in Spider-Man 2 was really good and the film version almost certainly won't be anywhere close. Sony sabotaging itself! I had to think long and hard before I realised you were referring to the video game Spider-Man 2. I was literally running through the whole Sam Raimi film in my head trying to remember a Kraven cameo that I'd long since forgotten... |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 19, 2024 16:05:49 GMT
Oh, but I just remembered the bits in the jungle, which were mind-numbingly awful. Oh god, when she fucks off to Peru for a week and immediately finds the village of the lost spider people. At least Dakota Johnson has the sense to look embarrassed most of the time. Despite being, i think, wanted by police at the time, she seemed to have no problem getting there and back.
But also the intro sequence in the jungle with her mum, which was dire.
The stuff in the USA was mostly ok.
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Post by brokenkey on Nov 19, 2024 16:16:27 GMT
Yeah, I was really disappointed that they didn't at least cover the magnificent Adam Lambert years. did they ever do any new material with him, or were they just a fancy cover band? |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 19, 2024 16:17:48 GMT
Biggest issue I had with M3GAN was it was an R rated film at its heart that went PG-13 and it felt very toothless, it's enjoyable enough but it really pulls its punches. I don't know about that. Like most Blumhouse Movies its an algorithmic YA horror movie and its pitched perfectly at like 13-16 year olds. If they went any harder it would have looked absolutely ludicrous There is an unrated cut that's bloodier and more sweary but I've not seen it. |
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Post by simple on Nov 19, 2024 16:24:58 GMT
Yeah, I was really disappointed that they didn't at least cover the magnificent Adam Lambert years. did they ever do any new material with him, or were they just a fancy cover band? Cover band I think. John Deacon apparently still gets an equal share of everything done under the Queen name and he’s not played with them in something like 30 years. |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 19, 2024 16:34:54 GMT
Sony Music buying up the Queen catalogue seems to be taking its time but it looks like their purchase of Pink Floyd's took a couple of years to get done so perhaps that's just how long these things take.
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 19, 2024 16:46:15 GMT
Gladiator 2 7.5/10
If the first one didn’t exist then I’d have rated it higher but the first is better in every way. Mescal was fine but doesn’t have the charisma of Crowe, Denzel is good but the closest equivalents were better before.
The overall story doesn’t quite hit the same highs and doesn’t feel as involving. It’s hard to bit into Mescal’s rage when he looks so happy so much of the time and his reasons for it aren’t great.
Denzel’s plotting was good though, and Pascal was good but a bit underused.
No idea how Ridley Scott puts out so many films these days compared to most other directors, and especially films on this scale.
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Post by technoish on Nov 19, 2024 16:50:54 GMT
I do quite love Ridley Scott's philosophy and overall approach. He doesn't pretend / try to go out for high art, but sometimes he gets lucky and he makes something so iconic. It helps he makes so many films  |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 19, 2024 16:59:56 GMT
I have admired how unpretentiousness he is, he is very much an arse it seems but I'm glad his stuff exists.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 19, 2024 17:07:39 GMT
I don't know about that. Like most Blumhouse Movies its an algorithmic YA horror movie and its pitched perfectly at like 13-16 year olds. If they went any harder it would have looked absolutely ludicrous There is an unrated cut that's bloodier and more sweary but I've not seen it. I can't see it being much different as not many people get capped. The lift scene was very clearly edited down, though. He very obviously was supposed to be skewered right through. But, yeah, thinking about it the juxtaposition of the 'cute' robot starting to swear like a sailor the more sentient she becomes would be quite funny and on theme. |
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 19, 2024 17:11:09 GMT
I do quite love Ridley Scott's philosophy and overall approach. He doesn't pretend / try to go out for high art, but sometimes he gets lucky and he makes something so iconic. It helps he makes so many films :) His IMDB page is entertaining, listing 74 upcoming projects. |
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Post by apollo on Nov 19, 2024 20:18:16 GMT
Longlegs
Heard so many good things about it but it has cardboard and stilted dialogue and its not scary or tense, its just grim but dull. Cage is just weird, not scary or malevolent. He could of gone "full cage" and that would of been something
pile of shit/10
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 20, 2024 0:50:47 GMT
There is an unrated cut that's bloodier and more sweary but I've not seen it. I can't see it being much different as not many people get capped. The lift scene was very clearly edited down, though. He very obviously was supposed to be skewered right through. But, yeah, thinking about it the juxtaposition of the 'cute' robot starting to swear like a sailor the more sentient she becomes would be quite funny and on theme. I think i saw a cover image for an extended/unrated version, but i have no idea how much difference it makes. |
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