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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 31, 2021 11:26:06 GMT
Yeah, lets just let everything uncritically wash over us in a never ending tide of beige.
Somebody lock the thread, no need for reviews anymore.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 31, 2021 11:36:00 GMT
Well if it's shit, you turn it off. So not really. There's degrees anyway. The point is some things are just made to be enjoyed on a surface level. Not every horror film is The Shining. Most horror films are actually quite shit and if you're going to judge them with proper films, you're not going to enjoy them very much
This actually feeds into my point. Plenty of people seem to continue on with films or games they're not enjoying, purely so they can review them after and they're usually quite bitter and scathing
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 31, 2021 11:43:31 GMT
Youre just saying 'turn your brain off and enjoy it' in more words, which is how we got so many transformers movies.
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Post by robthehermit on Aug 31, 2021 11:51:20 GMT
And what's wrong with the transformers movies? You'll be slagging off Fast and Furious next.
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Post by creepyloungelizard on Aug 31, 2021 11:52:44 GMT
Look, if you want to watch any old shite to pass in front of your eyes while you look at your phone thats fine but there seems to be some weird judgement on people who like to think about what they're watching.
Thinking about and talking about films and considering them capable of elevating the medium and trying to say something? you fucking nerd
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 31, 2021 11:55:13 GMT
Not at all. I'm saying horror films are better off with a more emotional response than a critical one for the most part. There's obviously a place for film analysis, as with anything. My point was really for your average person watching films, playing the film critic can be detrimental to your overall enjoyment. Another example is Ghostbusters 2. People seem to think quite negatively towards it - to me, as a kid, it was just more Ghostbusters. I still enjoy it. I don't particulaly care to focus on it's flaws. It's basically a kids film
I've seen about 15 minutes of Transformers and turned it off because it was obviously not for me, but it has its place. It's less about brain on/off and judging the degree to which something is worthy of analysis vs your enjoyment of it. I'm not an advocate of brain turning offing and I'm picky about the things I watch/play for the most part
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 31, 2021 11:57:33 GMT
I do think about this stuff after Ive watched it so its not much effort to blurt it out onto here/there. The only reason I really turn things off is if they are boring. I will watch something shit if it at least keeps me engaged because sometimes shit is interesting.
I dunno, just passively and uncritically consuming things sounds quite 'Ow, My Balls'.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 31, 2021 11:57:42 GMT
Also it was really just me voicing something that crosses my mind sometimes. I wasn't criticising anyone for enjoying reviewing films or discussing them here. Happy to hear other peoples opinions on it
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 31, 2021 12:01:19 GMT
I'm picky about the things I watch/play for the most part Which is fine but its like my wife only ever ordering the Tuna Jacket or the fish and chips. There is an entire menu to order from which you might hate or enjoy even more. Discovery is one of the most enjoyable parts of the process. |
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Post by robthehermit on Aug 31, 2021 12:02:13 GMT
I'm very much about turning my brain off. It's very rarely on to be honest.
Sometimes I think I'd like to be a bit more discerning and/or appreciate the message of a film in order to gain a deeper understanding of whatever. But then I think fuck it, crack open the popcorn and watch some shit getting blown up.
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Post by creepyloungelizard on Aug 31, 2021 12:05:11 GMT
I wasn't really directing that at anyone in particular to be honest.
I dunno, for me, it doesn't really matter if the film is horror, for kids or 2001 or whatever. Its either good,bad or average. They're all worth talking about.
There is the other category, of course, of films that make me actively angry, whether its because they're mean spirited, hateful or whatever. The transformers and hangover films spring to mind.
Actually, anything by Michael Bay.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 31, 2021 12:05:14 GMT
Fairs. I've recently been listening to hip-hop after disregarding it for so long. I love it
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For some reason, I can never @ you
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Post by robthehermit on Aug 31, 2021 12:05:47 GMT
Thinking is overrated anyway. If I start thinking too much I might realise that I'm fast approaching 50, have already had one heart attack, have no friends and am stuck in a dead end job with no prospects beyond a regular paycheck until my inevitable death.
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Post by Danno on Aug 31, 2021 12:06:35 GMT
Once Upon A Time In America
Will this ever end/10.
If I'd seen the runtime early on I would have quit, but I was an hour in by the time I realised. It's beautifully put together: script, cinematography, score, cast etc are all on point, but it's so, so slow.I had to stop for a dinner break in the middle and I was hungry again at the end
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 31, 2021 12:07:40 GMT
Thinking is overrated anyway. If I start thinking too much I might realise that I'm fast approaching 50, have already had one heart attack, have no friends and am stuck in a dead end job with no prospects beyond a regular paycheck until my inevitable death. At least you're not losing much when you die |
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Post by Dougs on Aug 31, 2021 12:15:28 GMT
Once Upon A Time In America Will this ever end/10. If I'd seen the runtime early on I would have quit, but I was an hour in by the time I realised. It's beautifully put together: script, cinematography, score, cast etc are all on point, but it's so, so slow.I had to stop for a dinner break in the middle and I was hungry again at the end I love that film, but yeah, it's a proper epic. Definitely one that needs an interval, ice cream and all. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 12:21:16 GMT
Thinking is overrated anyway. If I start thinking too much I might realise that I'm fast approaching 50, have already had one heart attack, have no friends and am stuck in a dead end job with no prospects beyond a regular paycheck until my inevitable death. Yeah, I'm the wrong side of 50, have a dependent family and all the trimmings that come with that... I honestly doubt I'll ever be able to retire or afford a holiday. My life is more or less over. I've not had a heart attack, but have almost weekly migraines, probably due to stress (go figure) On a more positive note, I've just started with a really bad cough. Jungle Cruise was alright though...  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 12:26:19 GMT
Thinking is overrated anyway. If I start thinking too much I might realise that I'm fast approaching 50, have already had one heart attack, have no friends and am stuck in a dead end job with no prospects beyond a regular paycheck until my inevitable death. I'd watch that film. |
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Post by Danno on Aug 31, 2021 12:27:33 GMT
Isn't that the first half hour of Falling Down
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Post by retro74 on Aug 31, 2021 12:28:12 GMT
I wasn't really directing that at anyone in particular to be honest. I dunno, for me, it doesn't really matter if the film is horror, for kids or 2001 or whatever. Its either good,bad or average. They're all worth talking about. There is the other category, of course, of films that make me actively angry, whether its because they're mean spirited, hateful or whatever. The transformers and hangover films spring to mind. Actually, anything by Michael Bay. Why do the Hangover films make you angry? That's quite a funny thought to be honest, someone getting angry over Mr Chow's antics |
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Post by creepyloungelizard on Aug 31, 2021 12:52:58 GMT
I wasn't really directing that at anyone in particular to be honest. I dunno, for me, it doesn't really matter if the film is horror, for kids or 2001 or whatever. Its either good,bad or average. They're all worth talking about. There is the other category, of course, of films that make me actively angry, whether its because they're mean spirited, hateful or whatever. The transformers and hangover films spring to mind. Actually, anything by Michael Bay. Why do the Hangover films make you angry? That's quite a funny thought to be honest, someone getting angry over Mr Chow's antics Misogynistic, slightly rapey, nasty teeth grindingly unfunny..lots of reasons... |
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Post by sport✅ on Aug 31, 2021 12:57:27 GMT
Why do the Hangover films make you angry? That's quite a funny thought to be honest, someone getting angry over Mr Chow's antics Misogynistic, slightly rapey, nasty teeth grindingly unfunny..lots of reasons... Like Bridesmaids |
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Post by Lukus on Aug 31, 2021 13:07:16 GMT
I enjoyed the Fear Street films. Just solid, fun horror films. Don't think they require too much analysis
I wonder sometimes if peoples enjoyment of films (and games, etc) is tempered by making a mental review in their heads while they're watching, being overly critical or overly conscious of flaws. As if they're already thinking about what they're going to say in their review online (not necessarily on this forum - it's not aimed at anyone) before the film is even finished. Fear Street, to me, is the kind of film that doesn't warrent too much critical thought. It's just suppose to be a bit of fun
Generally I either like something or I don't - I don't care to give anything a score - and if I enjoyed something overall, for the most part, by the end I'll have likely forgotten about a bad scene, bit of dialogue or lull
I usually just let stuff wash over me and very rarely think about films or tv I've watched much past the closing credits. All I care about is if it kept me sufficiently entertained over it's running time. If it did then it's a win and onto the next thing, if not it's no biggie and again, onto the next. I leave the critical stuff to people who care about that shit. It does mean we watch a fair amount of what a lot of people would consider to be absolute shite, but it passes the time so who gives a fuck. So you're saying it's a just a see the clock out situation? Just getting to the end, filling up the time somehow, then shuffling off this mortal coil? I'm pretty good at time wasting but I have no patience for finishing (or even starting) rubbish films. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 31, 2021 13:16:21 GMT
It's up to everyone how they choose to spend their life/time innit. It's alright being introspective and looking for the meaning in everything but there's no prizes at the end for doing it one way or the other. Being introspective can be fucking depressing. I know people who are less concerned with the minutia of things who are much happier overall or religious people (though I'm not myself) who are very happy. It doesn't matter what I believe. I'm somewhat envious of people with faith at times
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Post by Dougs on Aug 31, 2021 13:22:24 GMT
It depends on my mood if I want a film that is going to challenge me, or one I just want to enjoy without critiquing it or whatever. As I have got older, I have definitely leaned more towards the latter, which I take to be a function of waning attention span and getting old.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 13:33:01 GMT
I totally get what Aunt Alison is saying. Years of watching Honest Trailers, Everything Wrong With and Pitch Meeting has almost trained me to spot any little plot hole, inconsistency, or generally anything that doesn't make sense, and then immediately write the movie off as bad. Recently I've been making a concerted effort to be less critical of big blockbuster movies and take a more relaxed approach to them. At the end of the day, there's no benefit to not enjoying a movie. Essentially I'm trying to shift from "OMG, that's bullshit, who wrote this crap?" to "Heh, that's a bit silly, moving on...".
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Post by mrpon on Aug 31, 2021 13:40:32 GMT
Thinking is overrated anyway. If I start thinking too much I might realise that I'm fast approaching 50, have already had one heart attack, have no friends and am stuck in a dead end job with no prospects beyond a regular paycheck until my inevitable death. I'd watch that film. Robbo With A Shotgun |
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Post by robthehermit on Aug 31, 2021 13:53:07 GMT
So you're saying it's a just a see the clock out situation? Just getting to the end, filling up the time somehow, then shuffling off this mortal coil? Isn't everything? |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Aug 31, 2021 14:01:43 GMT
I enjoyed the Fear Street films. Just solid, fun horror films. Don't think they require too much analysis
I wonder sometimes if peoples enjoyment of films (and games, etc) is tempered by making a mental review in their heads while they're watching, being overly critical or overly conscious of flaws. As if they're already thinking about what they're going to say in their review online (not necessarily on this forum - it's not aimed at anyone) before the film is even finished. Fear Street, to me, is the kind of film that doesn't warrent too much critical thought. It's just suppose to be a bit of fun
Generally I either like something or I don't - I don't care to give anything a score - and if I enjoyed something overall, for the most part, by the end I'll have likely forgotten about a bad scene, bit of dialogue or lull
I usually just let stuff wash over me and very rarely think about films or tv I've watched much past the closing credits. All I care about is if it kept me sufficiently entertained over it's running time. If it did then it's a win and onto the next thing, if not it's no biggie and again, onto the next. I leave the critical stuff to people who care about that shit. It does mean we watch a fair amount of what a lot of people would consider to be absolute shite, but it passes the time so who gives a fuck. I don't think it's got anything to do with turning your brain off or whatever. If I notice and think about dumb shit in a movie while I am watching that movie, it's not because I treat every single viewing experience as something to be mentally dissected and picked apart. It's because the movie isn't doing its job of entertaining and engaging me, so my mind starts drifting off and noticing all the cracks. If you like something, stuff like plotholes doesn't matter (but it's fun to discuss them afterwards). If you don't like something, imo noticing stuff like plotholes is just a symptom of the bigger problem of the movie being shit. |
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Post by rawshark on Aug 31, 2021 14:20:04 GMT
Misogynistic, slightly rapey, nasty teeth grindingly unfunny..lots of reasons... Like Bridesmaids Ooya cheeky scamp! |
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