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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 19:35:07 GMT
That sounds lovely
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Post by Danno on Dec 15, 2021 20:28:49 GMT
Worst you'll get in Norfolk is a brief squeal from a startled pig after dark of a weekend. Startled by what? :/
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Post by Aunt Alison on Dec 15, 2021 20:32:24 GMT
cubby with his camera
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Post by Danno on Dec 15, 2021 20:38:56 GMT
Is that what we're calling it now
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Post by Sarfrin on Dec 15, 2021 20:54:13 GMT
Worst you'll get in Norfolk is a brief squeal from a startled pig after dark of a weekend. Startled by what? :/ 🎶 The farmer's in the pen, the farmer's in the pen, eeiadio the farmer's in the pen. 🎶
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Post by deekyfun on Dec 16, 2021 8:09:09 GMT
I was walking back to our accommodation after a meal at a pub somewhere in Norfolk once. It was pitch black and the silence was like nothing I'd ever experienced before. It was like the world had ended. Glorious.
My parents then moved near Great Yarmouth. Not quite the same experience, that.
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Post by darkling on Jan 10, 2022 9:56:13 GMT
I live in an end terrace, and my neighbour next door has right of access down the side of my house, through a gate, and across a path in between my garden and my house.
The constant issue is they keep leaving my gate wide open. There are 5 adults living there, and despite telling them on several occasions to shut it after them, someone (or all of them) continues to leave it wide open multiple times a day.
It's ironic, because the father of the family has raised security concerns about the rear of our properties in the past, had a security light fitted, yet his family are incapable of the most basic security measures... shutting the gate.
This brings me on to my main point... After mentioning the gate to my Mum yesterday, she wondered if they should be using the right of access as much as they do, and maybe they should use their front door more often. My Mum suggested the right of access really should be for things like taking the bins out, bikes, moving furniture, tradesmen, etc. I'd never considered this before, and I'm not sure if I should mention it. It will likely cause a rift.
I completely understand that they have a legal right to use the access through the rear of my property - so I probably don't have a legal leg to stand on - but when you consider there are the 2 parents, their 2 sons, their son's girlfriend, and all their friends that use the access, the footfall across my property is ridiculous most days.
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Post by dfunked on Jan 10, 2022 10:15:52 GMT
That would annoy the absolute shit out of me! We're mid terrace and nobody has made use of their right of access in the past year, but that's probably because we're closer to the far end.
There's an unwritten rule around here that you ask permission before you use it, and as you say it's for things like goods delivery etc.
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Post by darkling on Jan 10, 2022 10:31:52 GMT
Wow, that sounds like a far more civilised arrangement than a chav family of 5 wandering through your property multiple times a day. If their waster adult sons moved out it'd go a long way to alleviating the footfall, but fat chance of that.
This isn't to mention the amount of noise and shouting that goes on in their house, that they blatantly know comes straight through the paper-thin walls in these Victorian terraces - everything from arguments, to football chanting, to constantly shouting to their sons upstairs in their bedrooms. Unbelievable.
Something I forgot to mention is that the front doors of these terraces goes straight into the front room (very common in Sheffield) so most people block off their front door and have their letterbox in their back door, and use their back door as their main door. This is the root of the issue more than anything, so I'm probably screwed.
Only bought the house just over a year ago and I'm already considering a move, although there's nothing of worth on the market, and hasn't been for at least a year, so I'm stuck.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Jan 10, 2022 11:09:55 GMT
I'm having trouble visualising the layout of the property but people's general lack of spacial awareness aggravates me, so the idea of people continually walking through my property cause me to be in a state of perpetual irritation.
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Post by mrpon on Jan 10, 2022 11:18:03 GMT
darkling, a spring gate closer any use? Or does it need manually locking? If so, what about a yale lock as well? Though they'd probably prop it open huh?!
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Post by darkling on Jan 10, 2022 11:26:31 GMT
Yes I dare say they would!
The hinges are actually sprint-loaded because I investigated them yesterday, but despite upping the spring tension, it still doesn't quite give it enough spring to trigger the closing latch. It's quite a big heavy gate.
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Post by imamazed on Jan 10, 2022 11:28:14 GMT
Have you tried leaving passive aggressive anonymous notes? I can't see a downside to that strategy to be honest.
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Post by Psiloc on Jan 10, 2022 11:29:19 GMT
Hmm maybe they’re subconsciously expecting the existing springs to latch the gate closed? They’re probably gone by the time it’s apparent that the gate hasn’t latched properly
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Post by darkling on Jan 10, 2022 12:01:22 GMT
imamazed That's the first thing I thought about doing, but I didn't want to get all pissy about it and cover the gate in notes, suppressing my anger. I want to vent my anger at the problem, which I've already done on several occasions by telling them off, although they've ultimately ignored me. Psiloc Yes they may just assume it's closing behind them, I've considered that possibility. However, I've also witnessed various members of the household walk through the gate leaving it wide open, with no attempt to even shut it behind them. I mean, who the hell does that? Who approaches a closed gate, walks through it, and doesn't consider shutting it behind them?! It's this level of ignorance I can't get over.
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Post by Nemesis on Jan 10, 2022 12:27:04 GMT
I think you’re stuck with it unless you put down a couple of bear traps.
I’m in the middle flat and the downstairs has a tall metal gate which gives access to the rear garden (missus) and also the gas meters. So there’s an access right of way, but I’d always wait for the lady downstairs to be out before I do a meter read or I’d knock on the door and ask permission out of courtesy.
That’s because she’s a decent neighbour and I respect her privacy.
Now…the previous bunch downstairs would use the side gate as their main in and out so would slam that gate multiple times a day and it would make the whole building shake. At night they’d forget to close it, so if it was winter it would be crashing against the lock (which they couldn’t be arsed to fix properly) for hours until I came down and closed the damn thing.
These are the same people that woke up one night to find a man in the garden hiding from the police. You’d think they’d maybe sort the security out and re-do the lock? Noooooo. Bit of elastic banding around the gate and frame will do the trick ! Until it gets windy outside and they didn’t tighten it up. Guess what? Crashing for hours against the frame until I’d had enough and came down and sorted it so I could sleep.
Some people are ignorant to the misery they create because it doesn’t directly impact themselves. The moment you change that gate and impact their lives you’ll have a proper face off about it. Knowing the type, they’ll go out their way to Piss you off. So be careful.
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Post by UltraPyper777 on Jan 10, 2022 12:27:12 GMT
For 'security' concerns could you fit a simple keypad, which would make the gate less convenient to use.
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Post by mrpon on Jan 10, 2022 12:31:15 GMT
Just replace the springs with more powerful ones, no?
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Post by Nemesis on Jan 10, 2022 12:31:33 GMT
The lady downstairs put a bike lock on the gate, then gave everyone the code for access.
Before she dished out the code to everyone I was annoyed she’d blocked the route to the meters and was half of a mind to have a word. However I’m a bit of a coward when it comes to awkward neighbour chats, so I quietly simmered then the next day we all got a note with the code. So… lucky I didn’t say anything !
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Post by Psiloc on Jan 10, 2022 12:34:29 GMT
For 'security' concerns could you fit a simple keypad, which would make the gate less convenient to use. Yeah I like this idea. And of course you share the key code with them, because they have right of access. And you can share the new code with them every time you change it for security purposes. Perhaps the code changes every time the gate is left open...
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Post by khanivor on Jan 10, 2022 13:09:57 GMT
I was thinking put a regular old lock on it
Give them a single key. If there’s five of them and they are the kind of twats they seem to be, soon they’ll find it less hassle to go through their door then traipse to the gate, need the key, back into house, have argument where key is, give up.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Jan 10, 2022 13:17:26 GMT
Just replace the springs with more powerful ones, no? So powerful that they act as a pinball flipper and fling them hundreds of metres.
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Post by cubby on Jan 10, 2022 13:28:38 GMT
How about a timed mechanism that if the gate isn't closed after 10 seconds a speaker blares "CUNT!" repeatedly?
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Post by technoish on Jan 10, 2022 13:39:46 GMT
I own the back passage way from our mid terrace to the side street, and two neighbours have garden gates onto it.
There is nothing formal on their right of way in my legal documents, but I don't mind them using it. But I would be major pissed if they were leaving the door open. I have it locked and with a padlock, and they have their own keys.
Almost half of burglaries are through back gardens, and stuff gets nicked from gardens all the time. I would definitely want a lock on my side gate (also for insurance purposes?). I am annoyed my parents don't have a lock on their side gate for their new house. I just don't get it - do you want anybody to have free ability to come sit in your garden?
Also, if I was you I would ask the solicitor that did the purchase to confirm what the right of way actually entails. You don't really want to set yourself up for any legal trouble / annoyance.
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Post by darkling on Jan 10, 2022 14:59:31 GMT
I think you’re stuck with it unless you put down a couple of bear traps. I’m in the middle flat and the downstairs has a tall metal gate which gives access to the rear garden (missus) and also the gas meters. So there’s an access right of way, but I’d always wait for the lady downstairs to be out before I do a meter read or I’d knock on the door and ask permission out of courtesy. That’s because she’s a decent neighbour and I respect her privacy. Now…the previous bunch downstairs would use the side gate as their main in and out so would slam that gate multiple times a day and it would make the whole building shake. At night they’d forget to close it, so if it was winter it would be crashing against the lock (which they couldn’t be arsed to fix properly) for hours until I came down and closed the damn thing. These are the same people that woke up one night to find a man in the garden hiding from the police. You’d think they’d maybe sort the security out and re-do the lock? Noooooo. Bit of elastic banding around the gate and frame will do the trick ! Until it gets windy outside and they didn’t tighten it up. Guess what? Crashing for hours against the frame until I’d had enough and came down and sorted it so I could sleep. Some people are ignorant to the misery they create because it doesn’t directly impact themselves. The moment you change that gate and impact their lives you’ll have a proper face off about it. Knowing the type, they’ll go out their way to Piss you off. So be careful. You're completely on-point, especially with the game slamming. Even when they do bother to shut the gate, they carelessly slam it and my whole house shakes, and if they forget to close the gate and it's windy it creaks and hits against my house, forcing me out of bed to come down and shut it. Like you say, they've got no consideration or awareness of the misery they cause because it doesn't directly impact them. The gate issue aside, I feel sorry for an elderly woman who lives in the terrace on the other side of them, who must be quiet as a mouse, but also has to listen to their shouting. Maybe we should team up and and have a 24 hour metal-thon and see if they get the message.
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Post by darkling on Jan 10, 2022 15:01:10 GMT
For 'security' concerns could you fit a simple keypad, which would make the gate less convenient to use. Yeah I like this idea. And of course you share the key code with them, because they have right of access. And you can share the new code with them every time you change it for security purposes. Perhaps the code changes every time the gate is left open... I love this idea. "Oh sorry, the gate was open so I assumed an intruder had cracked the code, so I changed it."
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Post by Nemesis on Jan 10, 2022 15:05:37 GMT
I still like the bear trap idea.
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Post by khanivor on Jan 10, 2022 16:09:59 GMT
The Vietcong had some ideas it may be worth looking in to.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jan 11, 2022 1:22:24 GMT
Tonight has been all about enduring extremely loud karaoke from one of the houses across the way (someone's got a thing for Human League songs, and also for absolutely murdering Human League songs), which abrubtly cut off just now followed by a lot of angry shouting and then two of the loud people out in the street, one screaming "Get back in the fucking house you slag." and etcetera.
So there's that.
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Post by imamazed on Jan 11, 2022 9:55:12 GMT
Do you live in South London in the 1980s?
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