Star Trek

Cogenitor? That was my favourite episode of the season. Trip should have reprimanded for that one, I was expecting him to be demoted. I'm starting season 3 now, Xindi full steam ahead.

I skipped that one, wasn't it just a follow up episode for ST First Contact or something? It's a silly episode iirc.

Weren't they frozen or something?

True, that doesn't make sense. Nothing really does with the borg. They could just sneak 1 drone onto any planet and wipe the whole thing out in about a day. The whole premise of First Contact is pretty stupid, why not just go back in time 1000 years when we were living in wooden shacks and shitting in pans?

Time travel stories are always silly.

How many episodes in does The Orville's humour firm up? I've watched two so far and my wife isn't impressed and thinks it's childish. I agreed with her on the first episode. The second, I thought the plot around the two leads was a bit naff, especially as the pair of them just seem to give up, get changed and sit and eat breakfast.

Thanks, I'll convince my wife to watch one more episode then and see how it goes..

Yeah skip episode three, watch four instead. It feels like a classic trek episode, actually brilliant. I recommend watching three at some point though as it's the beginning of a continuing B plot. But don't watch it next if it's make or break for the show, it's quite boring. It doesn't matter what order you watch these earlier episodes in anyway, in fact the order in which the network chose to air the show is different to what Seth wanted iirc. As noted here: www.reddit.com/r/TheOrville/comments/add4xa/psa_if_you_just_started_to_watch_the_orville/

Back on Enterprise the admiral’s uniform makes it look like he’s wearing a tracksuit top over his shirt and tie and it never looks right.

So in my Trek rewatch I came across "The Outcast" which we'd been talking about earlier. Reading a review and comments, I stumbled over this little detail: in the script, there are these few lines of dialogue:
These lines were cut from the final episode while the rest of the conversation remained intact.

I think this episode and its background really highlight the issues classic Trek has with LGBTQ+. You have an episode that is clearly an allegory for the oppression of "deviants" in real-world heteronormative society and tries to make a passionate case for the victims. The biggest issue here is the hypocrisy that this is a franchise that is so utterly heteronormative, it has at this point (1992) refused to even acknowledge the existence of homosexuals.

Turns out the writer spelt it out just to be sure the message is understood, the main cast actor involved pushed for being a little "bolder" with what they'd show on screen, but someone in charge decided against the male actor and that the message can't be explicit, because they want to play everything super safe (as has been claimed) and/or because they're downright homophobic (as has also been claimed). And when classic Trek ended in 2005, it still hadn't acknowledged the existence of homosexuals outside of the mirror universe.

That’s a great post on The Outcast. Its kind of remarkable how tiny changes in casting and the script turn it from a thoughtful LGBTQ+ parable into something closer to Rikrr having Kirk-like sexual magnetism.

I think Stigma the Enterprise episode I mentioned suffers similarly with all the talk of a deviant minority and their filthy practices spreading a shameful disease, and the idea that T’pol is clean because she got it from an assault not wilful engagement.

Mayweather's actor is so bad, every line he has makes me laugh. Yoshi was bad at first but has got a lot better. Maybe the writing for her has got better too, she was very annoying in s1

T'Pol... Well... I feel bad for her character but I always got the feeling that the actress wasn't hired for the right er... reasons. Well pbviously. But it's confusing sometimes I can't tell if she's brilliantly playing a young Vulcan battling with emotional control or is just an adult entertainer. :/

That bit when she got so horny that she started gyrating against the wall flapping her legs like an accordion is the funniest shit though. :'D

Love how the episode trailer didn't even bother to mention the A-plot.

What the fuck is this jazzed up new S3 theme tune?!

Its even worse than before