Star Trek

Ha. So that's (including the new Discovery) a total of 10 live action series across 3 shows and they decide NOT to do the logical follow up to the most popular one.

It's dead, Jim.

I know people say that Kurtzman is supposed to be a TOS guy but I can’t think of an easier sell for them than a Jeri Ryan fronted successor to TNG.

Its mad that so many companies and executives will leave money on the table like this because they apparently think its the wrong money.

CBS appear to be thick as dogshit which is why they're doing so shit I guess. 

Idiots.

The only way I could see it working is if they go for the 'Galaxy High' style concept - very fish out of water, self aware, low stakes. Probably would work better as an animated series as well, make it chock full of weird aliens with just a handful of humans.

yeah, then make Lower Decks a live action series

Well Lower decks works so I could watch this

The original captain Yeoh, in the pilot, was great. The kind of Captain you enjoy. Then when she showed up as Naughty you think it might be a fun twist but it quickly got tiresome.

I’m with Rex, the evil character was dreadful.

I think the mirror universe is shite in general as every character in it is so one dimensional. Making one such a large presence in the series was a big turn off for me.

That's fair. The captain version was pretty good, albeit on briefly in it. Much like Captain Lorca was great until they made him a mustache twirling villain.

The mirror universe is fine as a one off shits and giggles thing. It falls apart whenever they try to take it seriously or spend too much time with it.

Because it doesn't really stand up to any kind of scrutiny, the mirror universe was stretched to breaking point when DS9 kept dropping into it. Spending most of a series in there was ridiculous.

They did themselves no favours by setting it when they did. I thought the jump to the future would save the show but they did it in the lamest way imaginable. To excuse why the ship isn't horribly out of date, they paused/regressed all progress and made it the fault of a sulky teenager.

Its why Star Trek: Whatever not happening is so frustrating. Like any normal person, I consider the next gen timeline to be the default one so I couldn't give less of a fuck about anything set a billion years before or after that and its been the same since Enterprise. They have literally the perfect jumping off point and the perfect captain. Seven, almost by accident, has one of the best character arcs in the entire franchise. Just do it, you cowards.

But but Intended! YES! Intended. 

I didn't actually like Picard 3 all that much. The post Nemesis version of the TNG timeline is just annoying to me. The Borg are a solved problem, they wiped out the Romulans for some reason, the Klingons are all pals etc. They've not really managed to find a decent antagonist after all that.

TNG worked as the Romulans were largely a blank canvas till then, they fleshed the Klingons out and introduced loads of new interesting stuff like Cardasians, Ferenghi and the Borg. Ditto DS9 and the Dominion. So it's all just a bit meh now and Picard only ever really remixed some old hits.

Disco was all right initially. If the mirror universe had stopped after series 1 it'd be fine. Also my hatred of Section 31.

It's really just Strange New Worlds for me at the moment. Maybe do the Enterprise B or C? Or just go off and think about some actual new thing to do after Picard.