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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 14, 2021 12:28:36 GMT
I just don’t know how it runs so badly. San An is like a PowerPoint on the series s. How the fuck does it run worse than gta 5?
It’s just so shit, like shockingly bad. And the new controls are terrible. The lock-on in a fire fight *always* targets pedestrians first.
But, yeah, I can’t stop playing it because it’s the best one.
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Post by simple on Nov 14, 2021 14:21:32 GMT
Its like one of those Steam asset flip troll games Jim Sterling used to do loads of videos about
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Post by dangerousdave on Nov 14, 2021 14:41:09 GMT
You say that, but Southampton city council wouldn't give me compassionate leave when my Mrs was in hospital and we weren't sure if she had miscarried due to me not being married to her. That was 22 years ago but there you have it. I used to work for a rather big pub chain about 10 years ago and my manager was refused absence for the birth of his own child. Absolutely outrageous. And he complied with it. I'm not sure if the law has changed since then, but it made me so angry. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 14, 2021 14:54:35 GMT
Spoons?
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Post by Danno on Nov 14, 2021 18:28:47 GMT
This is one of my favourites so far Hahaha, The Adventures of Sir Digby Chicken Caesar Simulator. What a time to be alive. |
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Post by hedben on Nov 14, 2021 19:16:39 GMT
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Post by malek86 on Nov 14, 2021 19:16:50 GMT
Right out of Jacob's Ladder that one.
Edit: that was supoosed to be in response to Trowel but coincidentally it fits that last post too
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Post by UltraPyper777 on Nov 14, 2021 20:15:31 GMT
I was interested in this remake, but the performance/graphical improvements/glitches has made wait to see if it improves. I'll stick to my PS2/Xbox versions for now, even with there shonky aiming and cropped widescreen.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 14, 2021 20:40:54 GMT
The new controls aren't well implemented. The lock-on locks on to literally anything other than the thing shooting at you. It's absolutely fucking infuriating. You lock onto exploding barrels you are stood next to or pedestrians driving cars behind you, causing you to spin around away from the enemies. Even it it didn't look laughably bad, It is absolutely wank.
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Post by simple on Nov 14, 2021 21:09:45 GMT
Lol Its like the walls of a Doom clone |
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Post by geefe on Nov 14, 2021 22:52:04 GMT
Maybe Rockstar have confused "remake" with "demake"
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Post by Lizard on Nov 14, 2021 22:53:07 GMT
Although I would love a decent remaster of San Andreas I am finding this shitshow hilarious.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 14, 2021 23:21:02 GMT
Playing it is actually pretty hilarious, tbf. It’s saving grace is that it’s been a while since I played it so I can’t remember if every car always aimed for you while you’re walking down the street like your pants contained a high powered magnet.
It’s literally impossible to walk anywhere without getting run over.
I didn’t play cyberpunk but I would be amazed if it was a bigger mess than this.
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Post by harrypalmer on Nov 14, 2021 23:25:08 GMT
This actually makes Cyberpunk seem extremely polished.
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Post by cubby on Nov 14, 2021 23:27:14 GMT
I've seen people say that the enemies have 100% accuracy when shooting at you, at least in GTA3. Noticed that?
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Post by Cappy on Nov 15, 2021 0:33:28 GMT
I've just been watching somebody stream 'definitive' GTA 3, they've got to patch this. It's not even a question of anybody nitpicking, it's a complete mess.
How much of a rush were they in to release this? How about starting work a few months earlier next time.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 15, 2021 7:44:13 GMT
I've seen people say that the enemies have 100% accuracy when shooting at you, at least in GTA3. Noticed that? I don’t know about 100% but your health bar does get melted a lot faster than it used to. It’s mitigated by the AI being as thick as pigshit so the trick is to never let them shoot. The path finding is hilariously bad so if you stand on a ledge or somewhere they can’t get to, they just run in circles. If they do shoot, though, yeah. You ded. |
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Post by malek86 on Nov 15, 2021 9:11:32 GMT
Just decided to reinstall my old GTA3 Non-Definitive Editon from Steam. Spent literally just five minutes applying a couple fixes.  Perfect. Ultrawide, borderless windowed, seems to work in 60fps just fine - I had heard about issues with driving or cutscenes when running above 30fps, but I guess the patches fixed it. And my GPU doesn't even start ramping up the fan. I can only wonder what exactly Rockstar thought was wrong about this version that they needed to port it to UE4. (well, presumably it was necessary to get it running on consoles, but why go for something relatively heavyweight in the first place like UE4, when a basic Unity port would probably do?) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 9:26:33 GMT
Some good stuff on here. I like the light speed car at 1.30
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 15, 2021 9:39:59 GMT
A lot of those are from what I was talking about above. Everything is fucking crazy and aims directly for you. Cars, bikes, pedestrians. It makes doing pretty much anything a nightmare.
And I also had that bridge glitch at five minutes but was going quite fast, missed it completely and wiped out on the face of the ravine.
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Post by snackplissken on Nov 15, 2021 9:41:50 GMT
Just decided to reinstall my old GTA3 Non-Definitive Editon from Steam. Spent literally just five minutes applying a couple fixes. Perfect. Ultrawide, borderless windowed, seems to work in 60fps just fine - I had heard about issues with driving or cutscenes when running above 30fps, but I guess the patches fixed it. And my GPU doesn't even start ramping up the fan. I can only wonder what exactly Rockstar thought was wrong about this version that they needed to port it to UE4. (well, presumably it was necessary to get it running on consoles, but why go for something relatively heavyweight in the first place like UE4, when a basic Unity port would probably do?) Should have done one of these justice rather than all in one go. |
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Post by darkling on Nov 15, 2021 9:57:05 GMT
Lol Reminds me of the talking walls in Knightmare.  |
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Post by harrypalmer on Nov 15, 2021 10:06:12 GMT
Just decided to reinstall my old GTA3 Non-Definitive Editon from Steam. Spent literally just five minutes applying a couple fixes. Perfect. Ultrawide, borderless windowed, seems to work in 60fps just fine - I had heard about issues with driving or cutscenes when running above 30fps, but I guess the patches fixed it. And my GPU doesn't even start ramping up the fan. I can only wonder what exactly Rockstar thought was wrong about this version that they needed to port it to UE4. (well, presumably it was necessary to get it running on consoles, but why go for something relatively heavyweight in the first place like UE4, when a basic Unity port would probably do?) Should have done one of these justice rather than all in one go. If they'd remade any of them using the current engine then people would have lost their shit (in a good way), and I'd have paid whatever to experience it. This is just blatant money grabbing, and it makes me both sad and happy that they are getting savaged for it. It really makes me want to replay the originals though. |
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Post by monkman5000 on Nov 15, 2021 10:15:07 GMT
Some good stuff on here. I like the light speed car at 1.30 Having missions fail mid-cutscene is quite special. |
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Post by Cappy on Nov 15, 2021 10:20:51 GMT
It's reported that a Rockstar producer says that the games were always like this and anybody claiming otherwise is afflicted with rose tinted spectacles because the definitive editions are using data directly taken from the original versions.
I call bullshit, it's not like you can just cut and paste data into entirely different engines, even porting to the same engine between different platforms is often an issue.
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Post by simple on Nov 15, 2021 10:24:55 GMT
Some good stuff on here. I like the light speed car at 1.30 The exploding cars at 6min are very Die Hard Trilogy |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 15, 2021 10:58:09 GMT
Have Rockstar issued a statement about this or do they just not give a shit?
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Post by Danno on Nov 15, 2021 11:00:09 GMT
Some good stuff on here. I like the light speed car at 1.30 Outstanding. Todd Howard must be seething with jealous rage |
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Post by harrypalmer on Nov 15, 2021 11:11:56 GMT
It's reported that a Rockstar producer says that the games were always like this and anybody claiming otherwise is afflicted with rose tinted spectacles because the definitive editions are using data directly taken from the original versions. I call bullshit, it's not like you can just cut and paste data into entirely different engines, even porting to the same engine between different platforms is often an issue. I would love that to be true. I don't remember a single occasion of a mission failing mid cutscene, for example. And wouldn't you want to fix those things when putting something out as DEFINITIVE? |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 15, 2021 11:19:33 GMT
It's reported that a Rockstar producer says that the games were always like this and anybody claiming otherwise is afflicted with rose tinted spectacles because the definitive editions are using data directly taken from the original versions. I call bullshit, it's not like you can just cut and paste data into entirely different engines, even porting to the same engine between different platforms is often an issue. If only there were some way to test this. I'm sure some tech savvy internet sleuths will find a way
I would be inclined to believe him given the excellent care and attention that went into the visual upgrade
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