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Post by cubby on Nov 12, 2021 23:08:23 GMT
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Post by Dgzter on Nov 12, 2021 23:23:42 GMT
Well played everyone. Good job. Solemn handshakes all round.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Nov 12, 2021 23:53:53 GMT
PC version is being flushed
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Nov 12, 2021 23:54:54 GMT
But meanwhile, over on the Switch version...
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Post by Dougs on Nov 12, 2021 23:54:55 GMT
Horse, stable door etc.
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Post by MysteryLamb on Nov 13, 2021 0:05:00 GMT
Rockstar operate almost entirely independently under the Take Two umbrella. How much freedom are they allotted? Almost complete freedom 'creatively'. I'm guessing they tow the line on high end corporate matters but it's a very self contained operation. It really all went that way when EA were trying to buy them maybe 15+ yrs ago or so. My guess is that autonomy was built into the deal to keep them at T2 and certainly for the time I was there that was the case. When I first joined it was a general testing studio for all branches but quickly became dedicated to R* only and branded as such. (This is Rockstar Lincoln I'm talking about btw not the whole company) I can't imagine this hasn't been signed off by a high level producer, and that the defects are not known about. But the producer has probably not played it themselves only skimmed reports made by intermediaries. The testing entity has no control over what is thought to be acceptable, they report problems, a decision is made on whether they are fixed or 'waived'. I ran the test on RDR (Redemption 1 not Revolver) amongst other titles and at no point was QA allowed or invited to give an opinion on quality... I got my testers to provide mission by mission feedback along with overall thoughts on making the game as good as possible. I collated it into a 60 page report that was sent around the company. It was lauded as a valuable insight. They were not expecting it and some pretty high up people thanked me. They ignored it ultimately despite being a hugely invested source of feedback. A free focus group, which is something I don't think they have ever really used. |
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Post by technoish on Nov 13, 2021 0:18:29 GMT
Given MS may have paid quite a lot to put SA this in Gamepass, I wonder if they will have any leverage on patches.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 13, 2021 0:19:45 GMT
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Post by MysteryLamb on Nov 13, 2021 0:37:22 GMT
This is a safe space right? I'm bitter as fuck about R*. It ruined me.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 13, 2021 0:42:15 GMT
Spill it!!
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 13, 2021 1:03:17 GMT
This is a safe space right? I'm bitter as fuck about R*. It ruined me. For real, it's a safe space. Was it as bad as the reports said? |
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Post by Danno on Nov 13, 2021 6:45:45 GMT
This is a safe space right? I'm bitter as fuck about R*. It ruined me. Don't leave us hanging! |
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Post by Lizard on Nov 13, 2021 7:14:12 GMT
Rockstar Lincoln as well - my sympathies. Please tell me that when you left Rockstar you left that worthless shithole too.
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Post by convercide on Nov 13, 2021 8:28:21 GMT
I'd assumed it was internal. Would still expect them to sign-off the final versions though, being as it's their legacy. From GSG website "With a history spanning over a decade, Grove Street Games has grown to be a leader in the industry by taking smart risks" - what was the smart risk here? I’m guessing PJ did the graphics and Duncan had the audio After the paintball incident too, it seems. |
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Post by dfunked on Nov 13, 2021 9:00:30 GMT
MysteryLamb - definitely spill the beans. We're all obviously interested and it sounds like you need to get it off your chest. Might be worth making a new thread for it, but don't think anybody would mind it going here either.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 13, 2021 10:09:47 GMT
The AI upscaler is amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 10:54:02 GMT
Sometimes wonder if I'm the sole Skyrim player that has only purchased it once Still never played it. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 13, 2021 11:11:45 GMT
The AI upscaler is amazing.
Leaving it to AI destroys the original artwork. It's higher res but all the detail is lost |
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Post by cubby on Nov 13, 2021 11:15:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 11:31:10 GMT
Did Rockstar and CD Projekt have a bet to see who could destroy their reputation the most?
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Post by Cappy on Nov 13, 2021 11:31:20 GMT
Now I wouldn't mind seeing AI upscalers turned loose on the source code for various PS2 games.
I'm just curious to see what sort of 'improvements' the algorithm comes up with, maybe this is the future of ports and game preservation, where popular games get torn down and rebuilt again and again until they're a Ship of Theseus with little of the original left.
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Post by Worlds on Nov 13, 2021 12:04:22 GMT
Did Rockstar and CD Projekt have a bet to see who could destroy their reputation the most? Do you think this will damage or impact GTA 6 sales in any way? |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 13, 2021 12:06:29 GMT
No
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 12:10:28 GMT
I think it'll probably be cancelled now and Rockstar will likely go bust.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 12:12:18 GMT
I expect GTA V to keep getting re-released for the next decade.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 13, 2021 12:51:52 GMT
They are kind of like valve now, I suppose. They run the worlds largest online casino so they don’t have to give a fuck anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 13:53:57 GMT
Bethesda the same. I love Fallout 76 but it feels like it has about 4 devs working on it. Everything from updates being released by mistake to spelling errors in item descriptions, as well as all the usual things flying up in the air run-of-the-mill Bethesda bugs and jank. 4 desultory updates a year with a few hours of not atall great missions to run through. This for an apparently key frontline IP, from a company apparently worth $7.5 billion.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 13, 2021 13:59:50 GMT
I think the issue with Bethesda is more the fact that a majority of their staff have been there for an extraordinary amount of time which most likely has led to a lot of stagnation with no fresh ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 14:04:31 GMT
I was playing Skyrim a bit yesterday to have a look at the next gen upgrade. Crazy that it's the last genuinely good game they made. 10 years old now.
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Post by simple on Nov 13, 2021 14:08:00 GMT
Fallout 4 and 76 both looked more dated at launch than Skyrim ever has
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