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Post by X201 on Oct 10, 2023 12:27:20 GMT
Who’s the little dweeby mate who, according to this, is culpable for some stuff too, do we know their name? When the BBC were making a real life show following police detectives this was the case that they followed. Not available on iPlayer at the mo, but is probably available somewhere (3 x 1 hour episodes) www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05wh973 |
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Post by mothercruncher on Oct 10, 2023 13:34:37 GMT
Oh, thanks for that 👍
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Post by mothercruncher on Oct 10, 2023 13:36:33 GMT
Free until 2014- 7 rapes and 11 indecent assaults, so it’s not just himself Seville’s game protected.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Oct 10, 2023 13:42:30 GMT
Clearly there was an undercurrent of darkness and menace at the time surely?Not sure I follow you on “genuinely wasn’t there”? There's a reason why Saville was so popular in the 70s/80s and I don't think it's coming across so far. Maybe it will in later episodes, but so far it's all about the man behind the mask, and that doesn't tell the full story of how he was able to do what he did. |
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Post by otto on Oct 10, 2023 14:01:40 GMT
How old are the people who remember him being on children's TV? Because I don't think he was on any kids TV when I was watching it growing up. It'd be mostly appearances on other things like Parkie or Wogan, or retrospectives. Now Rolf Harris, he was a firm fixture in our house with his art show and animal hospital. Where's our Rolf Harris biopic? He was on constantly when I was a kid - Top of the Pops, Jim'll Fix It, British Rail and British Telecom ads, he was everywhere |
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Post by cubby on Oct 10, 2023 14:40:43 GMT
I must have been just on the cusp of his omnipresence then. I would have been 9 when fix it ended and I vaguely recall it seeming like an old boring show back then and never watched it.
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Post by otto on Oct 10, 2023 14:49:50 GMT
I only wrote in once, it was when we moved to America when I was ten and I wrote to ask if my friend Barry could come and visit me. Funnily enough it wasn't picked up.
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Post by Vortex on Oct 10, 2023 14:54:50 GMT
Having a friend called Barry definitely calls to a certain era of time. There's surely not many Barry's under 40 these days!
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Post by otto on Oct 10, 2023 14:57:43 GMT
Ironically after school he moved to America and got fat whereas I went home and ... well not *that* fat
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Post by jono62 on Oct 10, 2023 15:49:28 GMT
My mate got on Jim'll fix it, but I'm not sure if it aired. He wanted to play the guitar with someone, can't remember who. They gave him a tape of his part and we watched it at school.
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 10, 2023 17:05:51 GMT
I must have been just on the cusp of his omnipresence then. I would have been 9 when fix it ended and I vaguely recall it seeming like an old boring show back then and never watched it. Think I was 10 when it ended and I recall him being extremely well known and seemingly respected. I was never that fussed about it but it was the sort of show my grandparents would watch with us if they were babysitting on a Saturday. Then post Fix It through the late 90s he still had a massive profile and was regularly invited on various panel and talk shows across the four channels. |
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Post by Dougs on Oct 10, 2023 21:09:36 GMT
Being an older member of FG, he was almost never off the telly. As a kid i had no idea obviously but as I got into my teens, it was obvious he was dodgy as fuck. And iirc, the rumours were all out there. The cover up wasa long time before though.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 10, 2023 21:30:43 GMT
We never had it/him on because my dad absolutely fucking hated him. Like viscerally loathed the sight of him.
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Post by Danno on Oct 10, 2023 21:59:06 GMT
How old are the people who remember him being on children's TV? Because I don't think he was on any kids TV when I was watching it growing up. It'd be mostly appearances on other things like Parkie or Wogan, or retrospectives. Now Rolf Harris, he was a firm fixture in our house with his art show and animal hospital. Where's our Rolf Harris biopic? He was on constantly when I was a kid - Top of the Pops, Jim'll Fix It, British Rail and British Telecom ads, he was everywhere Clunk-Click, every fookin' trip |
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Post by X201 on Oct 11, 2023 4:52:24 GMT
This is the age of the train
All the big brands had him in adverts: Bisto, Raleigh think he popped up as one of the celebs in a Woolworths Christmas ad too
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Post by Lizard on Oct 11, 2023 4:55:09 GMT
I watched a really interesting BBC 4 documentary about British Rail marketing campaigns right before the Savile thing blew up. Somehow doubt they could repeat it without cutting half of it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2023 7:11:33 GMT
It’s also why there there is little to no black and white footage on TOTP2
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Oct 11, 2023 8:01:49 GMT
This is what I think the show is missing - the fact he was ubiquitous as a figurehead of British society isn't coming across stongly enough, yet it was the very thing that enabled him. They touched on it a little last night with the old footage of him and the Songs of Praise scene, but otherwise Coogan is only playing it one way.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2023 8:12:36 GMT
I think thats unfair. There is a decent bit of him flipping on and off like a switch depending on who he is talking to.
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Post by wunty on Oct 11, 2023 8:44:28 GMT
Watched two episodes so far. It's so fucking grim I'm not sure I'll manage through the other two. I'm watching in disbelief at some of the stuff that's happening, all the while knowing full well it did. It's not entertaining, and I'm not sure entirely the purpose of it. Perhaps it's cathartic to the victims to have something else out there portraying him in his true light. It's very well done however, and I agree with nick that it definitely does show how he flips depending on the company. Coogan's performance is so good and subtle that it's just not completely overt, which makes it all the more chilling.
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Post by deebs on Oct 15, 2023 0:17:42 GMT
How old are the people who remember him being on children's TV? Because I don't think he was on any kids TV when I was watching it growing up. It'd be mostly appearances on other things like Parkie or Wogan, or retrospectives. Now Rolf Harris, he was a firm fixture in our house with his art show and animal hospital. Where's our Rolf Harris biopic? He was on constantly when I was a kid - Top of the Pops, Jim'll Fix It, British Rail and British Telecom ads, he was everywhere Hah! A British Rail ad with Gary Glitter just popped into my head with him being depicted dipping into a vat of anti-aging cream to keep his young persons railcard. Failcard in hindsight. |
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Post by deebs on Oct 15, 2023 0:19:38 GMT
Oh shit is this on the box now? Time to rev up ye olde warez box.
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Post by Danno on Oct 15, 2023 1:34:51 GMT
Oh shit is this on the box now? Time to rev up ye olde warez box. Yeah man, we've already finished it. It's properly fucking horrible. But good. But utterly horrible |
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Post by dfunked on Oct 15, 2023 6:57:56 GMT
Two episodes in and yeah, it's great but horrible but also great.
Coogan is just absolutely perfect for the role. There's a jarring moment when he first speaks where you can't not hear Partridge, but you soon get past that.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 15, 2023 7:13:58 GMT
I said this in the TV review thread but, I don’t know whether it’s because his Mum-Ra era is the one I’m most familiar with but it could just be him on screen in the last episode. It’s genuinely quite unsettling. Whatever the merits of the series itself, Coogan deserves all the awards.
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Post by geefe on Oct 15, 2023 8:07:31 GMT
Coogan would probably refuse to be nominated
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Post by cubby on Oct 15, 2023 8:48:10 GMT
Spoilers: he won't.
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2023 11:07:24 GMT
I've watched 2 as well. It's engrossing but a very difficult watch. Not sure if I'll watch the other two.
It stays with you after watching it which makes me feel slightly sick.
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Post by X201 on Oct 16, 2023 20:39:06 GMT
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Post by simple on Oct 18, 2023 20:04:28 GMT
Finally got around to watching the first episode. Mostly just to confirm what everyone else is saying, Coogan is incredible but the show itself is a gross, grimy thing to watch.
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