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Post by Vortex on Nov 17, 2021 10:12:26 GMT
I still haven't got round to trying this yet. 'Proper' release date is friday isn't it?
Has it at least been improved from the beta effort?
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Post by andytheaverage on Nov 17, 2021 11:00:30 GMT
It's less buggy than the beta (for XSX at least, maybe not Xbox One), but it still feels like a beta
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Nov 17, 2021 11:07:45 GMT
I still haven't got round to trying this yet. 'Proper' release date is friday isn't it? Has it at least been improved from the beta effort? I think it has, but not drastically. It also depends on what platform you plan on buying it. Ps5 seems pretty solid, reports of hard crashes on Series X and a majority of complaints coming from Pc users in regards to getting frame rates above 70-90 etc. There are numerous bugs, but nothing to spoil the game drastically (but other people mileage may vary but it’s easy enough to jump into a game and get your battlefield fix. Apparently there is going to be three patches in the next month so I would maybe wait till they’re out? Or at least watch some streams and see how you think you get on. Dice seem to be on the ball communication wise and they doing hot fixes here and there. Personally, on the ps5 it’s been pretty stable. In the 5/6 hours of play I’ve had, i had one deploy bug (where I couldn’t start the round) and one revive bug where I got stuck and had to quit the round. It’s a little janky in places and it’s a little barebones when it comes to unlocks and half baked in that it’s missing voice chat and scoreboards (though you can check your squads) but the core game is there and personally think it’s plays pretty well - though I’m still undecided whether I like the changes to player count and the larger maps but I still have the itch to play it each evening. Hope that helps. Problem is framerate stuff and little bugs don’t bother me too much, so perhaps not the best person to ask.
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Post by oldskooldeano on Nov 17, 2021 11:12:03 GMT
I still haven't got round to trying this yet. 'Proper' release date is friday isn't it? Has it at least been improved from the beta effort? Oh yes it’s way better than the beta, but it’s fair to say that all its faults are laid bare now. And the good things such as they are. Maybe a day one patch will improve things a bit more but I doubt anyone is holding their breath over it! EDIT: I should add that Portal is very good and plays much better than AoW. You can get a good BF fix out of that. Quite clearly made by a different studio. I can imagine DICE are pretty vexed about the quality difference. It’s not a good look for them imho.
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Post by andytheaverage on Nov 17, 2021 11:36:01 GMT
I didn't realise a different studio developed portal. Do the guns handle differently in the main game? I haven't played it enough to properly notice as I've spent most of the time in BC2 rush
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Post by oldskooldeano on Nov 17, 2021 11:46:47 GMT
I didn't realise a different studio developed portal. Do the guns handle differently in the main game? I haven't played it enough to properly notice as I've spent most of the time in BC2 rush Portal was made by Ripple effect in LA. Previously they were known as DICE LA and came from the ashes of Dreamwork Interactive. They are overseen by Vince Zampella of Respawn entertainment, so the Titanfall, Apex Legends and original Call of Duty lineage is there. Quite separate from DICE in Sweden. Everything just feels better in portal. The guns, the spotting, everything really.
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Post by Vortex on Nov 17, 2021 12:36:36 GMT
Excellent info dump there oldskool, thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 12:38:12 GMT
I didn't realise a different studio developed portal. Do the guns handle differently in the main game? I haven't played it enough to properly notice as I've spent most of the time in BC2 rush Portal was made by Ripple effect in LA. Previously they were known as DICE LA and came from the ashes of Dreamwork Interactive. They are overseen by Vince Zampella of Respawn entertainment, so the Titanfall, Apex Legends and original Call of Duty lineage is there. Quite separate from DICE in Sweden. Everything just feels better in portal. The guns, the spotting, everything really. I haven't managed to open a single game of Portal on OneX. But there's spotting?! I couldn't figure out why they cut this from the main game at all.
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 17, 2021 12:38:21 GMT
No I've never known them to make you pay for a server browser. Also, where's the scoreboard at? What on earth is going on with this launch? I definitely remember them making you pay for servers on BF3. Maybe that was for private servers, not publics servers. Shameful either way.
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Post by Derblington on Nov 17, 2021 12:46:17 GMT
Dreamworks was a long, long time ago. The company was EALA, then Danger Close, and then DICE LA before the latest rebrand. There's a lot of DICE STHLMers there. That and Danger Close make up most of the team I think. Zampella oversees them, but there isn't a huge lineage from that team there, they're mostly Respawn.
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Post by Snake on Nov 17, 2021 13:13:10 GMT
So they had 3 teams working on this? Dice, Criterion and Ripple Effect? No wonder they are rushing to launch before the holiday season...
Another thing I forgot to add that's an absolutely stupid design decision is that tank health regenerates automatically now...(Tested in Portal, Arica Harbour) There were already matches that saw some people jumping into a tank and not dying the whole match, what's this change good for?
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Post by gamecat on Nov 17, 2021 13:29:07 GMT
Not throwing money at this mess while Halo MP is free(ish). Different sort of game I know, but this BF looks like an alpha 6-9 months away from release right now.
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Post by Vortex on Nov 17, 2021 13:44:15 GMT
So they had 3 teams working on this? Dice, Criterion and Ripple Effect? No wonder they are rushing to launch before the holiday season... Another thing I forgot to add that's an absolutely stupid design decision is that tank health regenerates automatically now...(Tested in Portal, Arica Harbour) There were already matches that saw some people jumping into a tank and not dying the whole match, what's this change good for? Is this going to make my not so leet engy skills redundant? It's my favourite role, even if i do get abandoned by stupid drivers driving off/pilots bailing out when i am fixing stuff.
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Post by Snake on Nov 17, 2021 13:49:05 GMT
VortexWell, repairing is still faster (auto regen appeared to be something like 1HP every 1 or 2 seconds) but considering the engineer guns are laughably inaccurate now I think it's not looking good. On a positive note these are easily patched of course. The map issues/changes irk me more...
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Nov 17, 2021 13:51:43 GMT
So they had 3 teams working on this? Dice, Criterion and Ripple Effect? No wonder they are rushing to launch before the holiday season... Another thing I forgot to add that's an absolutely stupid design decision is that tank health regenerates automatically now...(Tested in Portal, Arica Harbour) There were already matches that saw some people jumping into a tank and not dying the whole match, what's this change good for? I imagine they had to do that to balance out the fact that now everyone can just pick whatever kit they want , the sheer number of helicopters, hovercrafts and tanks means you basically have to choose a launcher of some kind rather than a repair kit.
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Post by oldskooldeano on Nov 17, 2021 14:07:05 GMT
Regarding spotting. I’m assuming it’s broken in AoW and not removed? I can sometimes spot a vehicle but never soldiers. I mean there is a spotting ribbon so how am I supposed to get that, just through the abilities of certain specialists? It makes no sense!
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Post by andytheaverage on Nov 17, 2021 14:48:48 GMT
So they had 3 teams working on this? Dice, Criterion and Ripple Effect? No wonder they are rushing to launch before the holiday season... Another thing I forgot to add that's an absolutely stupid design decision is that tank health regenerates automatically now...(Tested in Portal, Arica Harbour) There were already matches that saw some people jumping into a tank and not dying the whole match, what's this change good for? I imagine they had to do that to balance out the fact that now everyone can just pick whatever kit they want , the sheer number of helicopters, hovercrafts and tanks means you basically have to choose a launcher of some kind rather than a repair kit. Which is fine for the new modes (and BF3), but it seems daft to add it in for BC2 maps. Regarding spotting, it works well in portal, but useless in the main game (just seems to ping a location behind the enemy instead). Also, the recon motion sensors a get you a lot of spot assists in BC2
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Post by Snake on Nov 17, 2021 14:49:57 GMT
starchildhypocrethes: Yeah, but this is Portal BC2 mode. No specialists there, just the old class system... I can't remember though I think spotting is still in 2042? It's single press RB to ping and double RB to spot I believe...
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Post by CompetitiveDad on Nov 17, 2021 16:48:21 GMT
starchildhypocrethes: Yeah, but this is Portal BC2 mode. No specialists there, just the old class system... I can't remember though I think spotting is still in 2042? It's single press RB to ping and double RB to spot I believe... Spotting certainly doesn't work in 2042 and if it does its intermittently. Early BF games required a button press but I believe you spot in this when you aim down your sight at the enemy or use your crosshair. The ping button is one press to mark where you are going(green) and double tap to highlight danger (red) Well that's my take on it anyway
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Post by oldskooldeano on Nov 17, 2021 17:07:34 GMT
Yeah I don’t think you can. It will highlight a vehicle if you ads at it but you don’t get spotting xp for it. The only way I have been able to get spotting xp is by using Caspers recon drone.
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Post by PatrickEwing on Nov 17, 2021 17:37:31 GMT
Reading above just makes you think more and more they should just spruce up BC2 and be done with it! They're overcomplicating matters, same as everything in life I guess!
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 17, 2021 21:02:15 GMT
Yeah from what I've read, the portal stuff is the only decent stuff. Should have just done a BC2 remake. Easy win.
Dice do this all the time, release a game missing so many things you expect even the most budget of budget FPS games to have. Like, no leaderboard? Lol.
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 18, 2021 0:22:28 GMT
Haven't played 2042 yet but it sounds incredibly reminiscent of the BFV launch. In two years they never really delivered on their pre launch promises then gave up. Pretty cautious after that experience. Might give it a year at least.
I absolutely loved BF1 though, had something absurd like 500hrs on it. That was great at launch and every dlc just made it better.
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Post by simple on Nov 18, 2021 0:42:32 GMT
I like the idea of being able to play 1942 levels in this but the rest doesn’t look good at all
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Nov 18, 2021 1:00:20 GMT
Haven't played 2042 yet but it sounds incredibly reminiscent of the BFV launch. In two years they never really delivered on their pre launch promises then gave up. Pretty cautious after that experience. Might give it a year at least. I absolutely loved BF1 though, had something absurd like 500hrs on it. That was great at launch and every dlc just made it better. It’s a lot worse than BFV was at launch. A lot.
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Post by CompetitiveDad on Nov 18, 2021 11:24:20 GMT
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 18, 2021 11:57:25 GMT
New trailer too.
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Post by anthonyuk on Nov 18, 2021 12:22:48 GMT
With spotting I think you have to aim directly at the enemy for it to work.
It also seems you can spot enemies when you die before you respawn (like in BF5). There doesn't appear to be any visual or audio cue to say you've done this yet, but does show up in the kill feed to say you've done it. Assuming it works, but haven't been able to confirm as obviously voice chat doesn't work.
I'll definitely dive into this at some point, but it's not getting £60 in this state.
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Post by JYM60 on Nov 18, 2021 12:25:09 GMT
What about the Ultimate Edition for £120? Not tempted?
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Post by Dgzter on Nov 18, 2021 12:51:25 GMT
Oh dear. The small patch applied today seems to have broken my game for the time being: stuck on a black screen any time I launch now ...
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