|
Post by JuniorFE on Sept 11, 2024 9:59:10 GMT
Guess I'm in the club of "I beat the [REDACTED] fight before it was cool it got nerfed" then I missed out on that in his base game version, so that's kinda nice Also quite a few buffs to things that I'm not sure necessarily needed them, but nice things all around... And I'm certainly not about to complain about Rellana's Twin Blades getting a boost, probably at least top 5 favourite DLC weapons for me!
|
|
|
Post by JuniorFE on Sept 11, 2024 10:00:18 GMT
Quoting for context and visibility
|
|
mikeck
Junior Member
Posts: 1,920
|
Post by mikeck on Sept 11, 2024 10:06:16 GMT
Well looks like I might finally beat this chump after all
|
|
JonFE
Junior Member
Uncomfortably numb...
Posts: 1,936
|
Post by JonFE on Sept 11, 2024 10:08:00 GMT
Well looks like I might finally beat this chump after all That's the spirit!
|
|
|
Post by JuniorFE on Sept 11, 2024 10:08:06 GMT
Also, this patch releasing on 9/11... The "Sir, a second nerf has hit the [REDACTED] fight" snark writes itself
|
|
|
Post by JuniorFE on Sept 11, 2024 10:12:04 GMT
Guess I'm in the club of "I beat the [REDACTED] fight before it was cool it got nerfed" then And I just found the perfect reaction image for that (yes, that is an "Um akshually" Godwyn)
|
|
|
Post by JuniorFE on Sept 11, 2024 10:15:28 GMT
Not to chain-post so much, but I just saw a clip of the revamped fight and they removed his clone attacks?!? That was actually cool though, and not nearly as much of a problem as the visual clutter (which has been reduced well, actually), why? Edit: either that or it's a new bug that gets fixed on a refight (don't ask me how or why it happened), I've seen some conflicting reports
|
|
Bongo Heracles
Junior Member
Technically illegal to ride on public land
Posts: 4,627
Member is Online
|
Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 11, 2024 10:16:27 GMT
'Fixed issue with attack effects blasting all the time and causing seizures'
|
|
|
Post by RadicalRex on Sept 11, 2024 10:50:46 GMT
Well looks like I might finally beat this chump after all I beat him OG With a greatshieldIn my days he was so hard you can't even imagine, son
|
|
|
Post by RadicalRex on Sept 11, 2024 10:51:22 GMT
The early players among us can soon reminisce like four Yorkshiremen
|
|
mikeck
Junior Member
Posts: 1,920
|
Post by mikeck on Sept 11, 2024 10:52:42 GMT
Heh, not going to take the bait I got him (OG) down to one last hit, that's close enough for me!
|
|
Aunty Treats
Junior Member
Delivering tasty treats to the townsfolk
Posts: 1,030
|
Post by Aunty Treats on Sept 11, 2024 15:16:59 GMT
I haven't turned my Series X on for a couple of weeks so I've still got SotE Classic
Wonder if I can sell it on eBay to a True Gamer like those people with PT
|
|
|
Post by Duffking on Sept 11, 2024 15:20:58 GMT
Seeing how upset some people are by the invariably good changes to the fight makes it partly clear how FROM managed to ship a boss that was ultimately clearly just trying to be difficult more than it was fun.
There's a subset of the game's fans that seem to have just convinced themselves that anything difficult is automatically good and above criticism and anything easier is bad.
Probably because they're desperate for other people to be impressed at their skills, despite the fact that everyone else managed to beat it too and doesn't give a shit.
|
|
|
Post by RadicalRex on Sept 11, 2024 15:42:29 GMT
Yeah definitely, there's a lot of players who need to compensate for something and Fromsoft games attract those kind of people due to their nature and reputation. Don't you dare make any of their achievements more achievable for lesser players.
|
|
|
Post by Duffking on Sept 11, 2024 15:51:19 GMT
The Git Gud crowd must have been really frustrated when they found out Sekiro didn't have summons or a way to overlevel and wouldn't be able to do their usual lying on reddit that they beat every boss about 40 levels below the level most players would be at by that point.
|
|
mikeck
Junior Member
Posts: 1,920
|
Post by mikeck on Sept 11, 2024 22:48:42 GMT
Nerfed my fucking arsehole. Another 10 attempts this evening. I pretty much breezed past most of the DLC bosses, but this fucker, no go for me.
Wish I'd fucking played something else this evening, that's annoyed me way more than is reasonable.
|
|
f00b_inc
New Member
Enter your message here...
Posts: 254
|
Post by f00b_inc on Sept 12, 2024 9:02:17 GMT
After only just beating the Elden Beast just before the DLC came out (about a week before they patched Torrent back in - typical!) and being forced to completely respec to beat the fucker I'm glad I held off the DLC based on a lot of the comments above.
Sounds like it might still be worth picking up at some stage to enjoy some more From world building? But I was pretty boss-fatigued by the end and this sounds like it is an extension of that end-game.
|
|
mikeck
Junior Member
Posts: 1,920
|
Post by mikeck on Sept 12, 2024 9:24:38 GMT
I have no complaints with any of the DLC aside from the final boss. Some of the other bosses are tricky but are doable for most builds. I enjoyed all the areas, there is loads to explore, some cool NPCs and questlines, but the end boss CAN GO FUCK THEMSELF REPEATEDLY!!
|
|
Bongo Heracles
Junior Member
Technically illegal to ride on public land
Posts: 4,627
Member is Online
|
Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 12, 2024 9:36:13 GMT
The DLC isn't actually that hard if you are levelled enough to beat the main game. The most challenging thing other than a couple of twattish bosses is navigating the map.
|
|
f00b_inc
New Member
Enter your message here...
Posts: 254
|
Post by f00b_inc on Sept 12, 2024 9:58:03 GMT
Fair enough and good to hear then! I'll have to get round to it at some stage
|
|
|
Post by jeepers on Sept 12, 2024 10:05:54 GMT
The DLC isn't actually that hard if you are levelled enough to beat the main game. The most challenging thing other than a couple of twattish bosses is navigating the map. Thats my biggest bugbear - it’s hard to pin point the problem (verticality? Worse signposting? Everything being darker?) but I struggle to know where to go next a lot more in the DLC than I ever did in the base game. I still enjoy it but it feels more obtuse than the main game imo.
|
|
loto
Junior Member
Posts: 1,041
Member is Online
|
Post by loto on Sept 12, 2024 10:08:34 GMT
mikeck - I thought you were having a break? lol You kind of need to go in not giving a fuck, to be honest You want to be at least +16 scuds with a +10 mimic Put a Marika blessing in your inventory, but DON’T use it, your mimic can use it for your benefit at zero cost Look at your armour and defenses. The talisman that reduces damage by 20% is great, so’s the one that boosts your guard ability. Use your Physick - stamina regen/ max stamina is sound ,so are the health ones, anything reducing holy damage keeps you in the fight for phase 2. If you’re faith, you need to be casting Golden Vow and cast it again for f your mimic gets grabbed with that bullshit attack, as you can’t damage him during it anyway. Flame, grant me strength is good too but doesn’t last long. But some crab meat and start with one, for another decent damage reduction Go in with a ‘don’t give a fuck ‘ attitude and you’ll get him eventually, but if you’re trying too hard; he’ll fuck you up. Hope this reads ok
|
|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 12, 2024 10:09:24 GMT
It was definitely very dark where I honestly felt at one point that my tv was broken.
|
|
rhaegyr
Junior Member
Posts: 3,546
Member is Online
|
Post by rhaegyr on Sept 12, 2024 10:16:35 GMT
If it's any consolation the ending is pretty non-existent.
|
|
|
Post by RadicalRex on Sept 12, 2024 10:20:43 GMT
The DLC isn't actually that hard if you are levelled enough to beat the main game. The most challenging thing other than a couple of twattish bosses is navigating the map. Thats my biggest bugbear - it’s hard to pin point the problem (verticality? Worse signposting? Everything being darker?) but I struggle to know where to go next a lot more in the DLC than I ever did in the base game. I still enjoy it but it feels more obtuse than the main game imo. I think that's because A) many areas are accessible via only one hidden path (whose entry may not even be near that area) B) there's so much verticality that many areas and pathways are below others but there's no underground map so in many places the map is completely useless C) the paths to some of the map fragments are deliberately obtuse so that for a long time you don't even have a map of an area D) instead of a largely natural progression (and directions from graces) through traversing the world, in the DLC the areas mostly branch out from a central area with virtually no direction where to go in what order
|
|
|
Post by harrypalmer on Sept 12, 2024 10:25:36 GMT
That's all fair. I actually liked having to really think and explore in order to get to certain areas. Sure it got a little frustrating, but it was fun. I can see how for some that looks like bad design, and maybe it is, but in the context of an open world game, it was nice to be a little confused at times.
|
|
Bongo Heracles
Junior Member
Technically illegal to ride on public land
Posts: 4,627
Member is Online
|
Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 12, 2024 10:29:02 GMT
They intentionally made it a pain in the arse for whatever reason. Not just make it a pain in the arse but deliberately led you to places that looked like you could get there on the map but were actually dead ends that just overlooked it.
And, since I'm complaining, the most annoying thing is that some of the hardest areas to find have got fuck all in them. They should have spent the time on dungeons rather than vast, empty spaces.
|
|
|
Post by RadicalRex on Sept 12, 2024 10:34:21 GMT
I'm certain that's on purpose, but sometimes I think it's just frustrating when it has nothing to do with you not being smart or observant enough. Sometimes you try for ages to find the way to a neighbouring region but it turns out the only way to access it is through some random ass cave that's far away in the other direction. In those cases, finding them is a matter of either pure chance or looking it up online again, and I find that very unsatisfying.
It reminds me of how I tried for hours to find a way to the base game's southwest plateau only to learn online that you'll only get there through some far away questline, only in the DLC this becomes pretty much normal. In either case I find it disappointing and frustrating that in a game that's praised for making you pay attention to the map, in some places you are basically being punished for trying that.
|
|
mikeck
Junior Member
Posts: 1,920
|
Post by mikeck on Sept 12, 2024 10:34:22 GMT
mikeck - I thought you were having a break? lol Ha, me too. Then this made him easier patch came out and I thought I can knock him off in a few minutes and be done with it all. How wrong I was. I am taking a break now though. Honest.
|
|
|
Post by Duffking on Sept 12, 2024 10:37:32 GMT
I think the DLC's map is just a bit unhelpful when it comes to seeing how stuff connects in the same way the Volcano manor mountain was as a pain in the arse to navigate.
As for the overall difficulty, most of the DLC areas are significantly easier than the late game areas the main game, it's just punctuated by a few twattishly designed bosses that are way out of whack with the difficulty of the rest of it.
Even the last major area is a complete pushover compared to Haligtree, Azula etc.
|
|