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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 7, 2024 22:29:11 GMT
I seem to have wandered my way to the Erdtree without meaning to and killed Geoffrey (who was easy). I assume the next boss gate is the final boss and end of the game? There's still a fair bit I haven't done yet though. Thing is, I'm high 60s now, and if I'm at the end of the game, I don't need to level anymore? You aren't at the end of the game. There is quite a bit more to go. You also reach a higher level in this than you do in other From games. My first character reached about level 135 or so by completion. The one I'm on now was about that when I hit the DLC and had a chunk of the main game still left. The caps on the attributes are much higher in this then previous games, so you still benefit pumping points beyond where you normally would. If "Geoffrey" is supposed to be Godfrey that is endgame though, isn't it? Unless Aunty Treats meant Morgott, but that's a much bigger jump from Geoffrey than Godfrey would be... |
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Post by Vandelay on Jul 7, 2024 22:56:16 GMT
I'm assuming he means the spectral Godrey, seeing as he hasn't beaten Rykard yet (and for only being level 60 odd).
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Post by Aunty Treats on Jul 7, 2024 23:01:22 GMT
You aren't at the end of the game. There is quite a bit more to go. You also reach a higher level in this than you do in other From games. My first character reached about level 135 or so by completion. The one I'm on now was about that when I hit the DLC and had a chunk of the main game still left. The caps on the attributes are much higher in this then previous games, so you still benefit pumping points beyond where you normally would. If "Geoffrey" is supposed to be Godfrey that is endgame though, isn't it? Unless Aunty Treats meant Morgott, but that's a much bigger jump from Geoffrey than Godfrey would be... It's the one that's all gold with a massive axe. A good, clean fight. After that, there's a path that leads directly to the Erdtree with a boss gate, which I haven't entered yet as I'm nowhere near ready to finish the game. I got there using teleports so wasn't expecting to be at the end of the game. Leyndell is so big- it actually feels like a city. Seeing places sprawled out in front of you in this is incredible. Haven't found Morgott yet but I'm currently bouncing around Cailid and Altus as it suits me
I've been exploring more organically by grabbing the maps and looking for places that look interesting, as you said. I've found it much more enjoyable than trying to meticulously cover every inch of an area as I go. I think I've completed Ranni's questline as well (as far as I can at the moment- I got the ring)
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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 7, 2024 23:01:30 GMT
I'm assuming he means the spectral Godrey, seeing as he hasn't beaten Rykard yet (and for only being level 60 odd). Oh yeah there's a gold Godfrey isn't there. I forgot that was a thing  |
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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 7, 2024 23:02:25 GMT
If "Geoffrey" is supposed to be Godfrey that is endgame though, isn't it? Unless Aunty Treats meant Morgott, but that's a much bigger jump from Geoffrey than Godfrey would be... It's the one that's all gold with a massive axe. A good, clean fight. After that, there's a path that leads directly to the Erdtree with a boss gate, which I haven't entered yet as I'm nowhere near ready to finish the game. I got there using teleports so wasn't expecting to be at the end of the game. Leyndell is so big- it actually feels like a city. Seeing places sprawled out in front of you in this is incredible. Haven't found Morgit yet but I'm currently bouncing around Cailid and Altus as it suits me
I've been exploring more organically by grabbing the maps and looking for places that look interesting, as you said. I've found it much more enjoyable than trying to meticulously cover every inch of an area as I go. I think I've completed Ranni's questline as well (as far as I can at the moment- I got the ring)
Don't worry, since it's gold Godfrey you're not even close to the end |
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Post by Tuffty on Jul 8, 2024 7:45:45 GMT
Had a moment in the DLC in Scadu West. Was able to see a battlements underneath me that I presumed as part of the Castle but didn't seem connected or something I explored. Thinking maybe I missed a door or something to take me there. But then I realise there's platforms leading down the cliff and into the area, taking me to a whole new fort with it's own boss. DLC has been so good about this aspect of exploration in the open world.
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Post by Aunty Treats on Jul 8, 2024 9:34:45 GMT
Went through The Fog Door and found Morgott. Looks like we've got ourselves a boss fight. I can see how doing a bit more damage might help. Got him to his second phase then left with my tail between my legs to do the Shaded Castle Also that death guy has gone absolutely mental. Jesus Christ Is there any reason not to put points into stats just to use weapons if you're not interested in using actual magic? There's a lot of interesting weapons that need magic stats. Dex only is quite limiting, though I do love my scythe |
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Post by Garfy on Jul 8, 2024 9:39:14 GMT
Scythes are awesome! Bleed, range and power, what more do you need?
>Jul 7, 2024 14:00:45 GMT 1 Garfy said:
>Just lost another 100k runes cos the game spawned them somewhere I couldn't find?!
>I hate this game. I hate it so much!
Also I still hate this game. Quite the dichotomy aint it
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Post by Aunty Treats on Jul 8, 2024 9:42:45 GMT
And it's menacing
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Post by harrypalmer on Jul 8, 2024 12:59:01 GMT
I know it's been said before, but the DLC map is nuts. I'm still discovering stuff in areas I was sure I'd exhausted and I haven't even left the first zone.
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Post by RadicalRex on Jul 8, 2024 14:00:42 GMT
Went through The Fog Door and found Morgott. Looks like we've got ourselves a boss fight. I can see how doing a bit more damage might help. Got him to his second phase then left with my tail between my legs to do the Shaded Castle If you're not doing enough damage to Morgott, you'll need a lot more for what's coming after (although just to be sure, for more damage weapon upgrades are even more important than your level). |
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Post by Aunty Treats on Jul 8, 2024 14:51:03 GMT
He wasn't that bad in the end. Tried out the executioner sword for a bit, missed my scythe, went back to it and got him pretty much straight after. Managed to bleed him during his transition, ha
I'd say my damage output feels about right at the moment. Decent but I still had to learn the fight and be able to survive a while. The issue I have with too much health/damage is that there's then a tendency to try and get the fight done through brute force, just hoping you kill them before they kill you (and you run out of heals). There's been a few bosses I've done recently that I was obviously overleveled for but they all ended up being really sloppy because I wasn't really taking them seriously. Being a bit fragile makes me play better
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Post by Duffking on Jul 8, 2024 14:53:08 GMT
Is there any reason not to put points into stats just to use weapons if you're not interested in using actual magic? There's a lot of interesting weapons that need magic stats. Dex only is quite limiting, though I do love my scythe Generally speaking, if a weapon is requiring a certain amount of faith, int or arc in order to wield it then that weapon will also scale at least some of its damage off that stat.
The best thing to do is check the scaling of that weapon on the wiki at max upgrade level - if it's the same strength there or thereabouts for both then it's going to have its best attack rating at an even mix of those stats (but not necessarily its best actual damage output, due to the fact you double dip on enemy damage resistances). If one is noticeably higher than the other, then you're better off prioritising that one stat over the other as you'll get more benefit from it.
If you're not planning on using int much, from the sounds of it your best bet for int-requiring weapons will be ones that have noticeably stronger scaling in strength than they do int.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 8, 2024 15:35:12 GMT
Some of these bosses I truly don't get. Fought Putrescent Knight and for the life of me I was struggling to see where I would get a hit in most of the time especially as the cunt has a horse to keep himself at distance. In the end I just left my mimic do all the work which was just a bit flat in the end. Ho hum.
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Post by Aunty Treats on Jul 9, 2024 0:46:00 GMT
Sounds like the mimics are having a great time though
Might have missed a step with the snake girl side quest, which is one I wanted to do. I'd done everything up to giving her the weird blob so she disappeared off somewhere. Then when I'd beaten Riker, I found the Thank You gesture in the hall of the manor (which seems like something she'd give you- maybe she asks you to kill him?). I thought I'd find her in the boss room after the fight or something. Is the quest still ongoing/finished/buggered?
The side quests are insane. I've come across people just randomly standing out in the open somewhere that I'd never come across except by chance
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Post by Aunty Treats on Jul 9, 2024 0:55:29 GMT
Also Basilisks are the worst From enemies and is anyone actually good at fighting From dogs? They're such little pricks who will always nip me
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jul 9, 2024 5:36:58 GMT
Some of these bosses I truly don't get. Fought Putrescent Knight and for the life of me I was struggling to see where I would get a hit in most of the time especially as the cunt has a horse to keep himself at distance. In the end I just left my mimic do all the work which was just a bit flat in the end. Ho hum. He took me ages. His horse is so annoying. I watched a couple of videos which were all "first roll forward, then back off, wait for the delayed attack, roll left if he does this, but only if he does it, and after a two-second pause, then roll into his horse but then away from him and you'll have an opening. But just one attack. Rinse and repeat until the second phase...which is completely different". Fuck that. Anyway, if you hit him with Holy a few times he goes down quite quickly - easier if you use some sort of AoE / Ash of War. I mention this to confirm not contradict your point: I think the boss design is flawed if there is a glaring weakness you can exploit if you happen to be that build, have that weapon, spell etc. |
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jul 9, 2024 5:43:55 GMT
Come to think of it, I think the only boss fight I genuinely enjoyed was Romina. That is, apart from the NPC melee scramble before Radhan, mostly because it was mental and came out of nowhere. |
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jul 9, 2024 5:45:39 GMT
Despite my moans, I'm suffering from the same blues I did when I finished the main game. Missing being there and wondering what the hell to play that will scratch some sort of similar-ish itch.
It might be time to give Bloodborne another go....or Dark Souls III. Hmmm.
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Post by peacemaker on Jul 9, 2024 7:27:47 GMT
Bb, obviously.
Helping my kid through the dlc now. Every boss is so mental that it’s better just to let him use his mimic with its one million hp. I just get him through each area. All bosses killed in shadow keep yesterday including the one out back before all the upgrade drops.
Respec to faith, it’s a lot as fun but definitely a little bit of a self nerf compared to other builds.
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Post by hedben on Jul 9, 2024 7:41:48 GMT
Continuing my very slow and spaced out playthrough of Erdtree, I think I’m on about 12 hours over 5 evenings.
Last night I finally managed to smash that first mausoleum boss, by switching back to the trusty Great Stars I used the entire base game, and going for bleed with extra Bloodflame incantation. I was disappointed to abandon the weapon I’d found in Erdtree for one I’ve used for hundreds of hours already… but tell you what, that Great Sword he drops is pretty decent. And I LOVE the unique skill with its follow-up - reminds me of the Bloodhound Fang one, the way it closes distance on the second hit.
After that I also managed to topple the first fire basket thing and a dragon in a lake, so now I feel invincible (until I get spanked by the the next area boss)
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Post by mikeck on Jul 9, 2024 8:10:56 GMT
Finally stopped dicking around trawling the map and made a start on Belurat; well that was delightful. Love the legacy dungeons, such classic From areas. I still have one area within it to explore, but the dancing twat is down (after four attempts), I actually rather enjoyed that boss. Good challenge and I felt I earned my victory with progression at each attempt.
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Post by Vandelay on Jul 9, 2024 8:15:14 GMT
Got bored of being destroyed by Radahn and Bayle, so decided to hop back over to the main game. Feels good being absolutely god-like.
Absolutely decimated the All Knowing, literally in less than 10 seconds. Also destroyed Godfrey with little trouble. Don't remember All Knowing being too much bother first time around (although I'm sure it took me a few attempts), but Godfrey was definitely one I struggled with.
Weirdly, Maliketh still gave me a few problems and probably took half a dozen attempts or so.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Jul 9, 2024 8:32:33 GMT
Despite my moans, I'm suffering from the same blues I did when I finished the main game. Missing being there and wondering what the hell to play that will scratch some sort of similar-ish itch. Glad I'm not the only one. Since finishing this I've installed and deleted about six games. |
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Post by hedben on Jul 9, 2024 8:49:43 GMT
Sounds like someone needs to reroll a new character
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jul 9, 2024 9:00:39 GMT
I don't know about that for me....I'm not ready to revisit the Lands Between just yet, maybe in a few months or a year. But I am craving some sort of similar level of immersion and progression.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 9, 2024 9:21:43 GMT
Anyway I went to face final boss last night. Hahahaha ahhh man they're having a laugh aren't they? I've had to completely respec for it which feels like bad game design, he barely has any openings, hus second phase comes when he still has a ton of health, I can't see anything and apparently constant AOE attacks are fair game.
I actually wonder how many reviewers actually finished the game to give out all these perfect scores?
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Post by peacemaker on Jul 9, 2024 9:24:49 GMT
Anyway I went to face final boss last night. Hahahaha ahhh man they're having a laugh aren't they? I've had to completely respec for it which feels like bad game design, he barely has any openings, hus second phase comes when he still has a ton of health, I can't see anything and apparently constant AOE attacks are fair game. I actually wonder how many reviewers actually finished the game to give out all these perfect scores? Maybe they all respec to win. I know I did. I beat the dlc with the same build and then after two hours trying the final boss I gave up and totally changed my character. I agree it’s not great design to have an end boss that is almost impossible for most builds with players of normal skill levels that managed to get them to the end boss. In fact I don’t like the whole game when it comes to boss difficulty/mimic situation. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 9, 2024 9:31:16 GMT
The most annoying thing about it is that it combines all of the worst excesses of all their work and it feels like someone was afraid to tell Miyazaki "no" which is weird considering he himself admits he's terrible at these games because then all I can see is that it's been tuned this way for the sake of being difficult on purpose. There's earned challenge and there there's this. I honestly don't know if I want to continue beating my head against the wall as it's not really fun and it's leaving a really bad taste in my mouth.
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Post by loto on Jul 9, 2024 9:59:43 GMT
There’s an interesting slo-mo video over on Reddit of the final boss taking a swing at the player and him taking damage well before the weapon connects. It’s bullshit, it really is.
I enjoyed the DLC on the whole, but it’s not their best and I’m not sure I’d rush to replay it on another of my characters unlike say Oolacile or even Ringed City.
I beat the final boss using advice from here about a Greatshield. It wasn’t the masterpiece that the Malenia fight is/was.
I’d probably dip in for the odd weapon or upgrade and complete places like Belurat/Ensis/ Shaded Keep. They were top drawer
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