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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 20, 2024 8:05:56 GMT
3/5
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Post by Tuffty on Jun 20, 2024 8:29:02 GMT
Maybe a bit off tangent but is it just me or do all the heaps of 10/10 scores mean fuck all nowadays? It's harder to get bought into things when it seems like 10/10's are given every week. No doubt the DLC will be great but I was more interested in Eurogamers 3/5 more than any of the 10's. People pushing the angle that EG didn't "git gud" but reading the review shows that the game is almost unfairly difficult in some aspects and not difficult enough with other aspects. Something I def felt towards the end of Elden Ring.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Jun 20, 2024 8:39:53 GMT
Close enough to it now that I can happily not watch that trailer. I'll be balls deep in it tomorrow! And then the Elden Ring DLC! |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 20, 2024 9:06:48 GMT
Its band night tonight. But Saturday I'll be on Actually, saying that I might still go on tonight but it'll be late again around 11:30 / midnight |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 20, 2024 9:08:27 GMT
I'm not going to buy it till I've done mohg, the silly fat wanker
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 20, 2024 9:18:37 GMT
...I was more interested in Eurogamers 3/5 more than any of the 10's. People pushing the angle that EG didn't "git gud" but reading the review shows that the game is almost unfairly difficult in some aspects and not difficult enough with other aspects. Something I def felt towards the end of Elden Ring. Same. Its often more measured criticism and if you read the review, it does all seem fair. It is also just one persons *opinion*. And, yeah, the gripes resonated for me, too. I'm a bit over 'hard for the sake of it'. Elden Ring bordered on it at the end, throwing in a dual stage boss that was resistant to things 90% of people specced. I recently played Remnant 2 on XBGP and abandoned it on the final boss for the first time pretty much in my gaming career. Shitty dual stage boss where the second phase one/two shots you before you can learn its pattern so you have to do the first phase repeatedly. Fuck that, uninstall. So, yeah, that is the kind of thing I want to know about. It won't stop me from buying it but it would stop it being an OMG10/10!! experience. |
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Post by mikeck on Jun 20, 2024 9:23:42 GMT
Maybe a bit off tangent but is it just me or do all the heaps of 10/10 scores mean fuck all nowadays? It's harder to get bought into things when it seems like 10/10's are given every week. No doubt the DLC will be great but I was more interested in Eurogamers 3/5 more than any of the 10's. People pushing the angle that EG didn't "git gud" but reading the review shows that the game is almost unfairly difficult in some aspects and not difficult enough with other aspects. Something I def felt towards the end of Elden Ring. The thing that struck me the most with that EG review was that it seems From have given a load of official message hints in places where they normally wouldn't i.e. the forest section with insta-death if getting caught by certain enemies that's the kind of discovery you usually make yourself and have to figure out what to do. Just feels an odd decision considering less than 40% of player on Steam are DLC ready as it stands, so if the DLC is aimed at the hardcore fans then you'd think they wouldn't try and make things easier? Certainly not a complaint, I'm generally in need of "gitting gud", just felt like a fair point in the review and probably that inconsistency played a part in the lower score. |
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Post by mikeck on Jun 20, 2024 9:25:22 GMT
One of the things I'm looking forward to the most over the next week is sharing discoveries with you bastards and laughing at how many cliffs Quaddy falls off.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 20, 2024 9:30:20 GMT
Yeah, the hints are ominous. 'Hit the weak point' are the shittiest of all enemies.
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Post by hedben on Jun 20, 2024 9:39:50 GMT
I installed the latest update… have they changed the Bandai Namco logo that shows when you launch the game? Don’t remember it having a red border.
Also I’d misremembered, my massively over levelled main character was lv160 when I beat Malenia… but I didn’t stop there. He’s now lv180! I’ve never bothered about the “meta” / recommended level in a Souls game before, but I do wonder if I might have made the DLC a wee bit easier than it should be…
(Guess I can always Larval Tear and then not claim all the levels back if it’s a problem…)
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Post by Nanocrystal on Jun 20, 2024 9:41:17 GMT
Re: the heavy-handed developer hints criticized in the EG review, I wonder if these were there for the benefit of the reviewers and will be absent or toned down in the release version.
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Post by hedben on Jun 20, 2024 9:44:00 GMT
If anyone needs help with Mohg later I can probably assist - tarnished hedben is now dual-wielding heavy brick hammer and heavy great stars with 65 strength - bosses don’t like this One Simple Trick (be an absolute hulk)  |
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Post by neems on Jun 20, 2024 9:45:48 GMT
I'm not going to buy it till I've done mohg, the silly fat wanker Well it launches at midnight, so get on a bit early, we'll help you smash Mohg, and then wahey! |
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Post by wunty on Jun 20, 2024 10:00:55 GMT
...I was more interested in Eurogamers 3/5 more than any of the 10's. People pushing the angle that EG didn't "git gud" but reading the review shows that the game is almost unfairly difficult in some aspects and not difficult enough with other aspects. Something I def felt towards the end of Elden Ring. Same. Its often more measured criticism and if you read the review, it does all seem fair. It is also just one persons *opinion*. And, yeah, the gripes resonated for me, too. I'm a bit over 'hard for the sake of it'. Elden Ring bordered on it at the end, throwing in a dual stage boss that was resistant to things 90% of people specced. I recently played Remnant 2 on XBGP and abandoned it on the final boss for the first time pretty much in my gaming career. Shitty dual stage boss where the second phase one/two shots you before you can learn its pattern so you have to do the first phase repeatedly. Fuck that, uninstall. So, yeah, that is the kind of thing I want to know about. It won't stop me from buying it but it would stop it being an OMG10/10!! experience. This is aactually why I was uhhming and ahhing over buying it in the first place. The boss fights in ER very much got to the limits of my patience zone a lot of the time. The whole canceling animations to attack you when you try to heal thing, the multiple bosses / phases, the endless attacking and focus on evasion over defense. The gimmicks like super hard multiphase bosses also able to heal themselves etc. I have, to be honest, had my fill. It's why I still haven't gone back to the DLC in Wo Long and why I too canned my playthrough of Remnant 2. I just can't be arsed and over the last ten years I think I've proved myself enough to now just relax a bit more while gaming (which is hilarious given how much System Shock is kicking my arse, but that's different as my playthough is fuelled by nostalgia). I'm really not looking to the bosses in this. General exploration, yes. Bosses, no. |
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Post by rajin on Jun 20, 2024 10:10:47 GMT
I think EG's review is quite interesting and well written but cant help but feel the score was purposely contrarion for clicks or a way (in vain) to impact from's approach to bosses and difficulty.
I might be in the minority, but I despise Dark Souls 3 DLC and never intend to finish it ever again. The last boss was fun and fair but all others felt like a slog (the demon princes and dragon in particular).
If elden rings dlc has more bosses with gigantic health bars and multiple fases, power armor one shot stunlock moves, I am not sure I can get excited for it.
I finished all soul games, Nioh 1/2 and their dlc. I would prefer they go back and try a few inventive bosses like the Old Monk or the monkeys from sekiro. Obviously not the bed of chaos as that one is a awfull example.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 20, 2024 10:10:58 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 20, 2024 10:16:45 GMT
I think EG's review is quite interesting and well written but cant help but feel the score was purposely contrarion for clicks or a way (in vain) to impact from's approach to bosses and difficulty. I might be in the minority, but I despise Dark Souls 3 DLC and never intend to finish it ever again. The last boss was fun and fair but all others felt like a slog (the demon princes and dragon in particular). If elden rings dlc has more bosses with gigantic health bars and multiple fases, power armor one shot stunlock moves, I am not sure I can get excited for it. I finished all soul games, Nioh 1/2 and their dlc. I would prefer they go back and try a few inventive bosses like the Old Monkor the monkeys from sekiro. Obviously not the bed of chaos as that one is a awfull example. I don't think there's any conspiracy with the score tbh. It is what it is and EG do skew to being more favourable to smaller indie games. I mean they did seem almost embarrassed for having ER as their GOTY. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 20, 2024 10:31:32 GMT
I don’t mind a fair, graduated challenge. In the main, Souls games are fine. You can usually grind your way through harder bits which is ok because the game is fun. A few Albinauric Slaughter Rampages later and the hump is navigated.
I’m just not a big fan of brutal skill checks/stop signs which are designed to stop you in your tracks. It’s just not fun. And, yeah, when it’s blatantly obvious the bosses cheat it feels like even more bullshit.
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Post by wunty on Jun 20, 2024 10:37:42 GMT
That's fucking awesome terrifying |
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Post by RadicalRex on Jun 20, 2024 11:06:16 GMT
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Post by wunty on Jun 20, 2024 11:12:58 GMT
Ha ha no way. That should have been there from the start. That fight was crying out for you being able to use your donkey. It would have been a fitting end to the game as well. |
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Post by RadicalRex on Jun 20, 2024 11:15:12 GMT
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Post by hedben on Jun 20, 2024 11:16:48 GMT
Does that mean I can say I beat Elden Beast “pre-nerf” like people do with Radahn?
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Post by wunty on Jun 20, 2024 11:25:01 GMT
Can't believe there are MORE fucking weapon adjustments. Leave it alone guys ffs.
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Post by Danno on Jun 20, 2024 11:25:01 GMT
Taker's Flames
Decreased the fire’s poise damage.
Removed the fire’s knocking down effect.
This is fucking bullshit
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 20, 2024 11:28:04 GMT
How dare they! Torrent in the fight wasn't worth this price... |
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 20, 2024 11:28:52 GMT
JonFE they nerfed our fucking trumpet!
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Jun 20, 2024 11:31:29 GMT
One of the things I'm looking forward to the most over the next week is sharing discoveries with you bastards and laughing at how many cliffs Quaddy falls off. Still deciding whether to purchase the dlc but it is the first couple of weeks which are special with souls games as people work through the game and share their exploits. Except for Biichi who will have it finished by Sunday Morning. |
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Post by wunty on Jun 20, 2024 11:35:24 GMT
I really wish we could customise Torrent. Even his hair colour. Billy could complete his nazghul look then. Right now he looks terrifying, until he has to climb on his little pack horse.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 20, 2024 11:37:42 GMT
Welp! I hope everyone had fun firin' their lazors on Mohg... because that's exactly what they're hitting here
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