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Post by zephro on Sept 29, 2023 19:08:47 GMT
I need to sort something out. My weight is still a bit high but has come down from the mess of COVID. I fucking hate the gym and running though. I tried the gym last year and just no. I'm just sat around so much I know I'm not as fit as when I commuted every day. Used to just walk around Soho or to and from the bus. Regularly did 60 miles a month according to Google maps.
Just sat in a chair all the time now. I can just feel it in my legs lugging the shopping home up the hill. It's more of a fear of early Scottish related death, than anything else.
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Post by Vortex on Sept 29, 2023 21:15:20 GMT
I concur. Calipers are the only way really. Not the only way. Some topless pics in bathroom light for FG to judge should get this cleared up pretty quickly. 🤣 Never change Sport! |
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Post by Dougs on Sept 29, 2023 21:37:53 GMT
I need to sort something out. My weight is still a bit high but has come down from the mess of COVID. I fucking hate the gym and running though. I tried the gym last year and just no. I'm just sat around so much I know I'm not as fit as when I commuted every day. Used to just walk around Soho or to and from the bus. Regularly did 60 miles a month according to Google maps. Just sat in a chair all the time now. I can just feel it in my legs lugging the shopping home up the hill. It's more of a fear of early Scottish related death, than anything else. Just go out and walk then. Even 30-40 mins a day would make a huge difference. Headphones on, podcast etc and it'll fly by. |
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 30, 2023 6:30:19 GMT
Losing weight when food is the best thing in life is hard.
I want roast dinners, steak, pizza, takeaways and alcohol. I know you can do that but in smaller portions but that’s just sad.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 30, 2023 13:46:57 GMT
TBH I think body comp percentages are considered almost complete bullshit unless you get an expert to measure you with calipers. After four months of training you should be able to see some changes in the mirror I'd have thought. You should know if you're up 10% body fat and lost muscle mass Well that's the thing I feel more muscular. So it's very much a surprise. Plus muscle weighs more than fat so weight might not go down like you'd expect.
My main measure is whether I can get into my shorts. Yesterday I was able to get into a pair that I hadn't been able to get into for about 12 months. The missus was happy.
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 30, 2023 14:25:12 GMT
Not surprised. 12 months of walking around with no shorts on sounds awful for your neighbours.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 30, 2023 15:49:02 GMT
I didn't say they were *my* shorts
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 30, 2023 16:05:59 GMT
I am now comfortably putting my belt on a lower notch without it feeling like I'm being bitten in half by a fucking shark. Result.
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Post by Zomoniac on Oct 2, 2023 16:55:42 GMT
Joined a Crossfit gym today. My descent into cunthood begins now.
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Post by bindipper3d on Oct 2, 2023 18:25:46 GMT
I started a pretty brutal fasting regime about 4 weeks ago in a bid to shed some timber.
I’m only eating between the hours of 6pm and 8pm on week days and then not fasting at the weekends.
Was very hard the first couple of weeks but fully adjusted to it now, feel healthy and dropped 9 pounds so far.
I’m not sure this is sustainable but it’s clearly effective.
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Derblington
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Post by Derblington on Oct 2, 2023 19:48:25 GMT
Who knew not eating would drop weight, eh?
Problem will come when you start eating normally again.
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Post by bindipper3d on Oct 2, 2023 21:27:49 GMT
Who knew not eating would drop weight, eh? Problem will come when you start eating normally again. Yeah fair point. I’m going to start introducing some exercise into my weekly routine so I can safely eat on more days without the weight ballooning back. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 3, 2023 2:42:05 GMT
I don't think I'd have the self control to do that, short of removing all food from my house. And even then I'd probably end up walking to the 7/11 to get some snacks.
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Post by geefe on Oct 3, 2023 3:30:03 GMT
That's not really a good idea, unless you have a plan to transition back to eating, which will need to be diet planning (and not "I'm going on a diet" but "here is what my new diet looks like") and exercise.
Brown bread toast with fruit/ small bowl of cereal for breakfast
Sandwich - tuna/ cheese/ chicken for lunch.
Small yogurt and/ or nuts for snack
Don't go mental at dinner and make sure you have veg with it.
Couple that with walking more and you'll be in a decent place. I mostly focused on exercise for the last 2 years, before I even really started thinking about diet; running 8-10 miles a week and a couple of 45 minute gym sessions. That knocked off about 5-6 kilos. Actively changing diet took off another 5 and now I'm really considering calories and protein intake.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 3, 2023 5:49:03 GMT
Should really put it in the thread title - any diet or lifestyle change has to be sustainable. That isn't, sadly. Weight loss is 90% diet. Then if you're looking to bulk etc, you need to eat the right foods to give your body the fuel to achieve that.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 3, 2023 5:58:54 GMT
Yeah that sort of approach must be good for a short term loss but you need to transition into something sustainable before you run out of steam on that and end up putting the weight back on plus more.
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Post by elstoof on Oct 3, 2023 6:31:18 GMT
It only works if you’re a mogwai imo
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Post by drhickman1983 on Oct 3, 2023 7:56:18 GMT
Started counting my calories about a month ago, but I'm pretty consistently going over my target and have seen zero weight loss.
I really have no discipline or self control. Why are all the things that give me actual satisfaction to eat so fucking terrible for me.
Need to exercise more, can't see anyway around it. Do go for a 8-12 mile walk on weekends but that's it really (plus just general cycling to work / friends but that's fairly low effort so doesn't really count for much)
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Post by Dougs on Oct 3, 2023 8:06:30 GMT
I'd have said your exercise level is fine. One of the key areas to focus on is portion control, especially carbs. We need waaaay less than we think. As long as it's not fried food or mars bars, I'd concentrate there.
I should add that I definitely don't practice what I preach. I lack willpower to stick to my own advice for very long.
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Post by smoothpete on Oct 3, 2023 8:23:57 GMT
I’m only eating between the hours of 6pm and 8pm on week days and then not fasting at the weekends. Yikes that sounds extremely hard. Are you not passing out in the early afternoon? |
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Post by dfunked on Oct 3, 2023 8:31:05 GMT
I've never really got the fasting fascination. Doesn't sound at all healthy.
It makes so much more sense to just sort out your diet to begin with and have a slight calorie deficit after you factor in how many calories the exercise you're doing is burning off.
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Post by Binky on Oct 3, 2023 8:39:56 GMT
Yesterday marked one year of completing the challenge I set for myself: Filling the activity rings on my Apple Watch with no excuses.
Lots of walking, weight lifting and exercise bike. Biggest challenge was doing it on days I didn't feel like it. Those days were, without exception, always the most uplifting. I definitely feel stronger and less achey – I had seriously gotten to the stage where putting on my socks in the morning was causing me twinges. I'd hand waved it off as getting old (43 now) but then soon realised I just really needed to get fitter.
Still look like a marshmallow, but a marshmallow with a bit more definition and a sense of pride in what he achieved.
My goals were set at:
10 hours of STAND (basically get up every hour and move for a bit - more important than you realise when stuck at a desk!)
40 minutes of EXERCISE (I started at 20 and worked my way up quite quickly).
700 KCals of MOVE (again, started at 500 and worked my way up. This was the hardest one to complete each day if you were tired!)
All in all, a small victory but importantly I've created new habits I want to stick with. Next step – stop eating pork belly for breakfast.
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Post by Derblington on Oct 3, 2023 8:43:00 GMT
Prio protein and veggies, fill in the gaps with carbs (these are not bad, they fuel us better than anything else and they're delicious), limit snacks. Lift weights*. Health.
That's all a massive oversimplification, obviously, but the best thing you can do to improve basically everything is some form of resistance training. It doesn't need to be bodybuilding, find whatever works for you, but the benefits are massive across the board. 3x 45-90 mins a week, work hard, profit. Get stronger, look better, live longer, eat more.
*cardio has it's place, but should be used for performance rather than fat loss at which point you need far less.
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Post by Derblington on Oct 3, 2023 8:44:26 GMT
Great work Binky.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 3, 2023 8:57:18 GMT
I'd have said your exercise level is fine. One of the key areas to focus on is portion control, especially carbs. We need waaaay less than we think. As long as it's not fried food or mars bars, I'd concentrate there. I should add that I definitely don't practice what I preach. I lack willpower to stick to my own advice for very long. Yeah, I worked out recently that the portion of white rice that I was having with dinner every day was over half my daily calorie target. All the cutting out snacks etc.. had been fairly pointless with that going on. So I'm trying to cut that down (halved the amount of rice, switched it to brown, with some tofu instead) and it's having a minor effect. |
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Post by elstoof on Oct 3, 2023 9:05:37 GMT
I never lost any weight when I used to lift, the only exercise that works for me in terms of shedding fat is hard cardio. Like a 5k run in 20-25 minutes or cycling 200k per week minimum with half of it “race pace”. Watch the weight just fall iff
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Post by smoothpete on Oct 3, 2023 9:24:21 GMT
Can't remember if I posted here about it but I've been doing loads of volume training, so basically 10 sets of 10 reps with a weight of around 2/3rds of my one rep maximum, with a minute rest between sets. It suits me perfectly because I can just focus on a few things each gym session rather than having to actually come up with a varied routine. The weight is manageable to start with but gets quite tough in the final sets, and the short rests keep the heartrate up. Seems to be working for me anyway. Then in addition to that, a couple of slow runs outside every week and one really hard interval run on the treadmill.
I had the treadmill up to 20kph this morning at the peak of the interval sesh, just for 30 seconds to see if I could do it (I can, just). It blows my FUCKING mind that dudes like Kipchoge are doing faster than that for 2 hours straight. Unbelievable really.
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Post by Derblington on Oct 3, 2023 9:25:30 GMT
Diet should be used to control weight, exercise is minor in comparison because the levels needed are generally unsustainable. If more movement is needed, walking is the easiest addition. You could add an extra hour or two of cardio a week, but you still need to be sensible when you remove it again as your energy expenditure will then decrease so food will need to be kept in check.
Building muscle will help you burn more cals at rest, and eat more food (increased thermogenic effect), which in turn means you can diet on higher calorie targets. Cardio is for heart health. Both should be part of a healthy existence but neither should be used for direct weight management, imo.
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Post by Duffman5 on Oct 3, 2023 16:19:56 GMT
Started counting my calories about a month ago, but I'm pretty consistently going over my target and have seen zero weight loss. I really have no discipline or self control. Why are all the things that give me actual satisfaction to eat so fucking terrible for me. Need to exercise more, can't see anyway around it. Do go for a 8-12 mile walk on weekends but that's it really (plus just general cycling to work / friends but that's fairly low effort so doesn't really count for much) Hi mate I hope you and your daughter are both well Why do you care ? I only ask as I read lots on here and other sites bemoaning the effects or lack of effect and results such and such do to ones overall health by following this or that. What is the end goal ? admittedly I have not worked in the fitness (bodybuilding) industry for nearly 2 decades and for the most part I do not look great! but when I was and did (look not too bad) one thing I would always ask clients is what do you want to achieve and what would be any goals ? Just curious and maybe trying to get an answer for myself  |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Oct 3, 2023 22:59:22 GMT
Started counting my calories about a month ago, but I'm pretty consistently going over my target and have seen zero weight loss. I really have no discipline or self control. Why are all the things that give me actual satisfaction to eat so fucking terrible for me. Need to exercise more, can't see anyway around it. Do go for a 8-12 mile walk on weekends but that's it really (plus just general cycling to work / friends but that's fairly low effort so doesn't really count for much) Hi mate I hope you and your daughter are both well Why do you care ? I only ask as I read lots on here and other sites bemoaning the effects or lack of effect and results such and such do to ones overall health by following this or that. What is the end goal ? admittedly I have not worked in the fitness (bodybuilding) industry for nearly 2 decades and for the most part I do not look great! but when I was and did (look not too bad) one thing I would always ask clients is what do you want to achieve and what would be any goals ? Just curious and maybe trying to get an answer for myself I think you have confused/conflated me with somebody else as I'm childfree. But understandable as I'm pretty beige and forgettable. But as to the reasons why I want to lose weight - I'm technically overweight. Yes, weight can be subjective but considering I do very little heavy lifting, the 80kg of my 5'7 frame (and yes, I'm mixing imperial and metric measurements because frankly it's always felt very much pick-and-choos-growing up) is mostly fat, and mostly centered around my gut. I frankly hate the way my potato of a body looks. At the same time, personally, I've no interest in being ripped, that "condom full of conkers" look isn't something I aspire to. I'd just like to not feel I look like a pregnant woman tbh. Unfortunately I like beer and shit food too much for my own good. |
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