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Post by dmukgr on Nov 15, 2022 9:17:45 GMT
You must be really at home on the trains Freddie- the food is out of date as soon as they start selling it.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Nov 15, 2022 9:21:35 GMT
Nah, on train journey for work it's all expenses paid so I can gorge myself on all the ridiculously overpriced shite food available at the station. I don't need to rough it with the shite available off the trolleys like the rest of you park bench bums.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 15, 2022 9:24:56 GMT
Today's rant is owners who can't see their dog is doing anything wrong.
Yes, they're playing. But your dog has got over excited and now your dog is chewing my dog's face and has drawn blood. Either you control it, or I fucking will. And you as well, if necessary, you little cunt.
*mops bloody scratches on Major's nose*
Fucking fuming.
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Post by wunty on Nov 15, 2022 10:12:29 GMT
I'm paranoid about little fluffbomb doing that. I always hold her away from other dogs, even though she can't wait to get to them and climb over their faces. I only let her go at it if the other dog responds in kind and the owners are 100% okay with them both playing. Even then I'm close by and get her away if she's getting too hyper. She's also never off her lead and it's wrapped around my hand (I don't do extendable leads either).
I should add that one of the main points with the training we're doing is controlling this excitability too. As well as the running towards cars thing. Scares the shit out of me.
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Post by wunty on Nov 15, 2022 10:14:15 GMT
Then again even before I was a dog owner, I despised owners that didn't control their dogs. The amount of times the boy - when he was younger and smaller - had dogs leaping at him or running in front of him or his bike. Mental. I've been bitten on the ankles a few times by over exictable dogs when running as well. Control your fucking dog.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 15, 2022 10:27:43 GMT
100%
Maj is super friendly, wants to meet and play with everyone but I understand that it's not always appropriate. So I don't let him charge kids, bikes, other dogs (unless I know the owner and know the dog's ok with it).
I'm happy to let him play and this started out that way, but if he was getting too much, I'd control him. I'm not so selfish as to just assume my dog is perfect. He's my responsibility and I won't have him biting or hurting another dog. He wouldn't, as it goes, but why take the chance?
Unfortunately, as I pulled him away from the Labrador (!) hanging from his jowls, the other owner was like "oh, he didn't mean it, it's just play". Yeah, but it's got too aggressive and my dog is bleeding and he shouldn't be. They should have recognised it and stepped in.
If they let it happen again, I'm going to lose my temper.
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Post by wunty on Nov 15, 2022 10:31:21 GMT
Yeah man it's blatant disregard for your dog, and their own. Maj could have just gone "fuck this" and retaliated. What then? I'm sure they would have been quick enough to point the finger. It's that "oh it's just playing" accompanied by a sloppy grin that often made me want to punt the owners into the canal. Just a couple of weeks ago I had a guy on the tow path, taking up the whole thing with two big dogs. I ended up having to run along the narrow and difficult to navigate grass verge between the path and the water and he was the one that goes "fuck sake" when I pass.
Hope your wee hairy man is okay though.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 15, 2022 10:34:07 GMT
Hope the dog is OK too...
Some people just shouldn't have dogs. Really boils my piss when people just let them run loose around other dogs without a hint of control.
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Post by rhaegyr on Nov 15, 2022 10:42:06 GMT
100% Maj is super friendly, wants to meet and play with everyone but I understand that it's not always appropriate. So I don't let him charge kids, bikes, other dogs (unless I know the owner and know the dog's ok with it). I'm happy to let him play and this started out that way, but if he was getting too much, I'd control him. I'm not so selfish as to just assume my dog is perfect. He's my responsibility and I won't have him biting or hurting another dog. He wouldn't, as it goes, but why take the chance? Unfortunately, as I pulled him away from the Labrador (!) hanging from his jowls, the other owner was like "oh, he didn't mean it, it's just play". Yeah, but it's got too aggressive and my dog is bleeding and he shouldn't be. They should have recognised it and stepped in. If they let it happen again, I'm going to lose my temper. Everything you've said I couldn't agree with more. We're the same with Cooper, big Bernese lad who always wants to play but I'm always ready to step in as he's usually bigger than other dogs and sometimes doesn't know when to give it a rest, hence me stepping in. A woman with a terrier off the lead came near us on the weekend and they started sniffing each other; terrier then turns irate and starts snapping near his face (Cooper's just stood there wondering what the little dogs' problem is). She just laughs it off and keeps walking, calling her dog who eventually listens and pisses off. Honestly, next time I'll send her and the dog flying. Or let Cooper off the lead and see how she likes it. Grrr.
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Post by cubby on Nov 15, 2022 10:42:07 GMT
Yep yep yep. Control your dog! Too many people just can't read when a dog isn't into the play and insists that it's all fine.
Quickly back to traffic lights and they've stepped up the psychological warfare this morning by having the temporary lights round the roundabout out of town permanently stuck on red. I was stuck there for half an hour until someone came along and turned it round.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 15, 2022 11:05:14 GMT
Maj is fine, thanks.
He's got a couple of little scratches on his schnoz, but he's not fussed. He's a pretty tough guy. I don't want to cause ruckus with another owner and this is a dog that he usually plays fine with but for some reason today, it decided to start nipping and took it too far. It was just play but you could see the teeth coming out and sometimes rough play is too rough.
I'm normally like "hey, these things happen, boy dogs eh?" but him jumping in and defending what happened instead of just going over and moving his dog away for a second to let things calm down got my back up. Like, you obviously noticed, because you commented. But instead of commenting, just stop it happening in the first place.
Sooner or later if your dog plays like that, it's going to meet a dog who'll tear it apart in response. That isn't Maj, luckily for them. But if it happens again I will separate them and woe betide if he tells me off for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2022 11:14:43 GMT
All dogs should be on a lead and muzzled, at all times away from home. Problems solved.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 15, 2022 11:29:01 GMT
Fuck off.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2022 11:41:53 GMT
Dogs attack other dogs, and attack people and children too. Compulsory leads and muzzles would solve both those issues.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 15, 2022 11:44:06 GMT
Facile generalisations aside (some dogs are bad, let's punish all dogs! Fucking lol), the dog itself isn't the problem here, which I would have thought was obvious if one had comprehended the posts. By your logic, then, shall we punish all humans because some don't always behave in a reasonable manner? Like to volunteer to go first?
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Post by H-alphaFox on Nov 15, 2022 11:48:50 GMT
Over here certain breeds of dogs have to be muzzled by law and the owners have to undergo a psyche evaluation before being granted the dog license.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 15, 2022 11:51:40 GMT
Over here certain breeds of dogs have to be muzzled by law and the owners have to undergo a psyche evaluation before being granted the dog license. I don't have an issue with that, by and large. There's a trend over here at the moment which has Mastiffs (Cane Corso, the Perro de Presa Canario) being super popular, so there are LOADS of pups around at the moment (and they're going for up to 10k a pup, too). Course, none of them know what these dogs are really like, especially when fully grown. It's not going to end well... But that's a big step away from "all dogs should be muzzled and on lead, always", which is just reductive bollocks.
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Post by rhaegyr on Nov 15, 2022 11:52:05 GMT
Dogs attack other dogs, and attack people and children too. Compulsory leads and muzzles would solve both those issues. lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2022 11:52:34 GMT
Humans can be held responsible for their actions.
Doesn't matter, it will of course never happen. Just saying a muzzled dog couldn't have bitten yours, or indeed anyone. Whatever, enjoy the fight next time it happens. And fuck off too if you like.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 15, 2022 11:54:44 GMT
Humans can be held responsible for their actions. Doesn't matter, it will of course never happen. Just saying a muzzled dog couldn't have bitten yours, or indeed anyone. Whatever, enjoy the fight next time it happens. And fuck off too if you like. Yes, they can. Which was *exactly* the point made widely and by several people across the last few posts and hours, which you decided to reduce to a overly simplistic solution and continue to do so. I'll do as suggested and leave you to it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 15, 2022 11:55:03 GMT
Trains in the UK are shit. Pay what should be first class prices to get a second class service. Might have to go back to coaches, at this point the National Express is probably more reliable and about as comfortable. I dont know how true this is but a train person once explained that one of the main reasons we get so fucked compared to the rest of europe is privatisation. European train companies bought out ours and use gouged profits from the UK to keep prices in their native countries low. Arriva are owned by the German government and they are throwing around discounted tickets in germany with gay abandon, for example.
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Post by rhaegyr on Nov 15, 2022 11:55:08 GMT
Dogs are also held responsible for their actions by responsible owners?
Same way children are if they have responsible parents. Or not if they have shitty parents.
Muzzle all kids until they can be held responsible/accountable by law?
Not the greatest analogy, still a bit early.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 15, 2022 11:56:43 GMT
There should definitely be some kind of test and license before you can own a dog. Shit owners are the problem here.
Unpopular opinion I'm sure, but it should be the same for children. Some people just shouldn't be parents.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2022 11:59:09 GMT
Dogs are also held responsible for their actions by responsible owners? Same way children are if they have responsible parents. Or not if they have shitty parents. Muzzle all kids until they can be held responsible/accountable by law? Not the greatest analogy, still a bit early. It's an idea. And it's lunchtime.
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Post by rhaegyr on Nov 15, 2022 12:02:13 GMT
Sense of time is all over the place as coincidentally I was cleaning up an extra large runny poo bomb in the dining room courtesy of the pooch from about 5am.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2022 12:04:19 GMT
Sense of time is all over the place as coincidentally I was cleaning up an extra large runny poo bomb in the dining room courtesy of the pooch from about 5am. Muzzle its arse too then
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Post by rhaegyr on Nov 15, 2022 12:05:36 GMT
Sense of time is all over the place as coincidentally I was cleaning up an extra large runny poo bomb in the dining room courtesy of the pooch from about 5am. Muzzle its arse too then That's something I can get behind! Figuratively. Not literally.
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Post by wunty on Nov 15, 2022 12:13:04 GMT
Responsibility falls on the owners imo. I don't disagree exactly with the "muzzle all dogs" sentiment, but I'm not for it either. I think there are some breeds of dogs that certainly should be muzzled when out, but there's such a divergance of breeds I just don't think it's applicable for all. Again though, it falls on the owner to train the dog, know the dog, look for signs, keep the dog at bay from other dogs and children as and when required. If the dog is off the lead in an area with other people , it needs to have excellent recall, even when there's loads of shit going on.
It's down to the humans. It's all on them and, as we know unfortunately, a lot of humans are cunts. Humans kill people with cars, with weapons, with fists, with negligence, with animals, by fucking up the planet. No animal asked to be kept as a pet. It's all on us, and all for us. So if you decide to have a pet, quite simply, take responsibility for it and don't be a complacent negligable cunt. Also, other people do not love your animal as much as you do. So if a dog, it's owner, or anyone else expresses a wish that your animal should not be near them. Do the right thing and take the fucking thing away.
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Post by jeepers on Nov 15, 2022 12:18:44 GMT
A few years back and when she was 8 months or so pregnant, my wife was bitten by a dog - hard enough to draw blood.
The owner - a posh woman - said “Oh, he doesn’t like people carrying bags!”
So either train your dog, keep it inside, re-home it or have it put down then. Stupid cow.
Most dogs are ace. Some dog owners are huge wankers.
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Post by Danno on Nov 15, 2022 12:55:40 GMT
Landlord just hiked my rent by £50/month
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