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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 14:53:50 GMT
X is a variable
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Post by cubby on Feb 22, 2022 19:48:51 GMT
AO have fucked us over today.
We'd ordered a new cooker a couple of weeks ago. Arranged it to be delivered for today when we did it as our builders recommended that would be a good date as they could fit the new units snuggly around it. We arranged for the gas engineer to come the next day.
Got an email yesterday from AO saying it had been picked and it would be delivered between 7am and 7pm. All smooth sailing.
By about 3pm the builders had to finish for the day as the cooker hadn't yet arrived, which is a shame but we thought it's still coming.
6.30pm we call AO and eventually after being put on hold several times (the hold music was 3 Non-Blondes singing "hey ey ey, what's goin' on?"!!) they told us that they didn't have the cooker in stock at all! So they've caused the builders to lose half a day's pay, the gas installer will have to be cancelled at the last possible moment and they're not expecting it to be in stock until March, and the only reason we know this is because we had to ring them up to find out "what's goin' on?" They hadn't bothered to notify us whatsoever. Fucking cretins.
And to kick the teeth in some more this was a fallback cooker, as the one from Curry's we initially wanted hadn't been in stock for 3 months, and that one has finally come back in stock.
Needless to say we've gone and cancelled and ordered with Curry's, and we'll try to get compensation for the installer having to be cancelled. And we've had to fetch the old cooker from the side of the house and hoping it hasn't been rained on too much.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Feb 22, 2022 20:00:38 GMT
That sucks but if there's one thing in life I've learnt it's don't rely on retailers to deliver on the day they say they will when other trades are depending on it. Shame 'cos AO are normally pretty good.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Feb 22, 2022 20:43:27 GMT
Good news, the old little guy delivery driver isn't dead. He was just on vacation and turned up with the box apologising profusely and saying they had no idea at the office. Made me laugh to be honest.
So now I have 2 packs of A4 paper, printer ink, a can of compressed air and 2 pairs of white socks embroidered with cartucho.es.
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Post by tonyferrino on Feb 22, 2022 20:47:45 GMT
We got lucky with a hob and oven delivery from AO. The delivery guy/fitter didn't read the job description properly, and fitted both parts even though we only wanted the gas hob fitting. The look on his face when he checked at the end was priceless.
I did give him a smiley face rating on his app though.
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Post by Danno on Feb 22, 2022 20:49:31 GMT
Good news, the old little guy delivery driver isn't dead. He was just on vacation and turned up with the box apologising profusely and saying they had no idea at the office. Made me laugh to be honest. So now I have 2 packs of A4 paper, printer ink, a can of compressed air and 2 pairs of white socks embroidered with cartucho.es. New sandals, a mug saying "I love Bowls" and a wicker sunhat arriving tomorrow?
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Post by H-alphaFox on Feb 22, 2022 20:53:19 GMT
Hope so.
Actually my cousin sent me a bowls jersey/shirt from Australia. That may have to suffice.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 23, 2022 2:04:07 GMT
The old guy is obviously a proper pirate who knows how to read maps.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Feb 23, 2022 13:05:18 GMT
Aye.
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Post by RadicalRex on Feb 24, 2022 21:35:15 GMT
It annoys me when a game has a bad UI/bad menus, but in most cases I can at least assume that the dev just didn't give a fuck.
What really gets me is when a menu is bad on purpose. Take the main menus of Hob or Forager. You want to move down two menu entries so you press down twice. However, the dev decided that you shouldn't be able to move that fast through the menu so they added a delay so you can only move through it slowly.
To go the extra mile just to make your menu worse is just mind blowing to me. If you're a developer, please tell me: when you think "This menu works fine. It needs to be worse. Let's spend extra time to make it worse." what is your motivation? I honestly don't get it.
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Post by Frog on Feb 24, 2022 21:40:08 GMT
I have about 3 hours of podcasts to listen to tomorrow in a 2 hour 30 minute window.
I hope that has put all of your problems into perspective.
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Post by cubby on Feb 24, 2022 21:44:28 GMT
Listen at x1.2 should be able to do it.
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Post by Frog on Feb 24, 2022 21:47:23 GMT
Not a bad solution Cubby, now go sort Ukraine out.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 24, 2022 21:49:49 GMT
What's on your list?
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Post by dfunked on Feb 24, 2022 21:50:41 GMT
1. Listen to some podcasts 2. Have a wank
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Post by H-alphaFox on Feb 24, 2022 21:50:45 GMT
It annoys me when a game has a bad UI/bad menus, but in most cases I can at least assume that the dev just didn't give a fuck. What really gets me is when a menu is bad on purpose. Take the main menus of Hob or Forager. You want to move down two menu entries so you press down twice. However, the dev decided that you shouldn't be able to move that fast through the menu so they added a delay so you can only move through it slowly. To go the extra mile just to make your menu worse is just mind blowing to me. If you're a developer, please tell me: when you think "This menu works fine. It needs to be worse. Let's spend extra time to make it worse." what is your motivation? I honestly don't get it. I like this. I think they call it Schadenfreude.
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Post by Frog on Feb 24, 2022 21:55:54 GMT
Just a couple of gaming ones. They make the drive to and from my area more tolerable as it's just an hour of motorway each way. I have enough to cover the week's worth of journeys but Friday there is a little too much.
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 24, 2022 22:17:41 GMT
It annoys me when a game has a bad UI/bad menus, but in most cases I can at least assume that the dev just didn't give a fuck. What really gets me is when a menu is bad on purpose. Take the main menus of Hob or Forager. You want to move down two menu entries so you press down twice. However, the dev decided that you shouldn't be able to move that fast through the menu so they added a delay so you can only move through it slowly. To go the extra mile just to make your menu worse is just mind blowing to me. If you're a developer, please tell me: when you think "This menu works fine. It needs to be worse. Let's spend extra time to make it worse." what is your motivation? I honestly don't get it. If it's a genuinely deliberate decision and not just poor processing of button presses, I'd assume there were complaints during testing that the menu was too sensitive.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 24, 2022 22:21:44 GMT
Just a couple of gaming ones. They make the drive to and from my area more tolerable as it's just an hour of motorway each way. I have enough to cover the week's worth of journeys but Friday there is a little too much. I can't concentrate on podcasts whilst driving, but that's usually because of arguments between the kids. Don't get much opportunity to drive on my tod (or for very long, nothing is far away!)
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Post by RadicalRex on Feb 24, 2022 22:29:45 GMT
SarfrinYeah it's obviously deliberate, that's the point I was trying to make. But how is "going down when you press down" too sensitive, and why would you listen to such a complaint as a dev? I mean, most UI/menu design is bad. But still most of them move up or down when you press the button. Yet a few devs go even further by making their game not register up/down presses deliberately. I'm sorry, but why would you complain that the cursor moves down when you press down, and as a dev why would you listen to that?
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 24, 2022 22:40:16 GMT
Well OK it doesn't make sense to you, but there must have been some sort of significant problem for them to put effort into doing something about it. I'm sure it's not like they were sitting around looking for something to do in their spare time before release date. I have played Hob and didn't really register that as a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 22:46:22 GMT
In a similar vein, I dislike when you can't use the d-pad to select options in a menu. Dragon Age Inquisition is an example. So many games have either set or at least allowed d-pad menu selection, so it's the most comfortable or natural to me. Then along comes a game that requires you to use the left stick and I'm sitting there for a second or two thinking something's wrong.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 24, 2022 22:52:07 GMT
In a similar vein, I dislike when you can't use the d-pad to select options in a menu. Dragon Age Inquisition is an example. So many games have either set or at least allowed d-pad menu selection, so it's the most comfortable or natural to me. Then along comes a game that requires you to use the left stick and I'm sitting there for a second or two thinking something's wrong. Worse are console games with a cursor you have to move around in menus
Something that was annoying me was in NSMBU when you press the button to skip text boxes, you still have to wait a second or so for a pause before the button prompt appears to skip it. Every time
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Post by RadicalRex on Feb 24, 2022 22:53:45 GMT
Yeah ignoring the d-pad is the epitome of horrible menu design. I just tried to make comparisons, but what's the point because it's simply inexcusable and that's it.
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Post by RadicalRex on Feb 24, 2022 23:03:17 GMT
Something that was annoying me was in NSMBU when you press the button to skip text boxes, you still have to wait a second or so for a pause before the button prompt appears to skip it. Every time Skipping text is such a simple thing but games just keep getting it wrong oblivious of any common sense. In Witcher 3, not exactly a game where you'd expect amateurish solutions, you always have to press the button twice to skip each sentence. Just map it to the Y button or whatever other button that you don't press on accident. PROBLEM SOLVED. In most games, skipping text is indiscriminately mapped to the same button/key as picking a reply, which inevitably leads to problems as you have to be very careful or you'll pick a reply you didn't want when you just wanted to skip text. On a recent replay of Gargoyle's Quest (Game Boy) I noticed that pressing A both advances text and picks a reply, but pressing B only advances text but will not pick a reply. PROBLEM SOLVED. This fucking GB game from 1990 got it right, there's no excuse for modern AAA games to get this wrong, if they can't get such a simple thing right they failed spectacularly and honestly that is not a matter of opinion.
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Post by 😎 on Feb 24, 2022 23:24:59 GMT
The menu prompts in Cyberpunk are kind of weird like that. Press space, it says, and then on the next screen it says press enter, only you can actually press any key on both and it’s fine.
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 24, 2022 23:57:44 GMT
Something that was annoying me was in NSMBU when you press the button to skip text boxes, you still have to wait a second or so for a pause before the button prompt appears to skip it. Every time Skipping text is such a simple thing but games just keep getting it wrong oblivious of any common sense. In Witcher 3, not exactly a game where you'd expect amateurish solutions, you always have to press the button twice to skip each sentence. Just map it to the Y button or whatever other button that you don't press on accident. PROBLEM SOLVED. In most games, skipping text is indiscriminately mapped to the same button/key as picking a reply, which inevitably leads to problems as you have to be very careful or you'll pick a reply you didn't want when you just wanted to skip text. On a recent replay of Gargoyle's Quest (Game Boy) I noticed that pressing A both advances text and picks a reply, but pressing B only advances text but will not pick a reply. PROBLEM SOLVED. This fucking GB game from 1990 got it right, there's no excuse for modern AAA games to get this wrong, if they can't get such a simple thing right they failed spectacularly and honestly that is not a matter of opinion. God yes! The majority of games still screw this up.
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Post by Danno on Feb 25, 2022 0:01:34 GMT
PC Master race Press X "DA FUQ?!"
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 28, 2022 8:32:40 GMT
In the last 3 weeks, my wife's mother has died, her father fell badly and was hospitalised, the day after I traveled 200 miles to help I got COVID and had to travel back, then the day we were going up for the funeral my daughter got COVID and couldn't come. Then last night we had a full on blow out on a dual carriageway in pitch darkness, tyre shredded off the rim by the time we got into a lay by. I am fucking cursed.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Feb 28, 2022 8:38:25 GMT
Sorry to hear about your MIL and FIL's accident, it's a lot to deal with emotionally for a family. Hoping you get a decent run of stress free weeks, sounds like you are due.
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