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Post by oldskooldeano on Dec 19, 2021 11:39:44 GMT
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Dec 19, 2021 12:07:54 GMT
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 19, 2021 12:07:54 GMT
I think this was fairly well expected, wasn’t it? It was pretty much written for him.
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Dec 19, 2021 13:43:10 GMT
Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 19, 2021 13:43:10 GMT
Does it have huge slow moving space ships?
As long as he gets to do Dune part 2 first...
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Dec 19, 2021 13:59:54 GMT
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Post by Nemesis on Dec 19, 2021 13:59:54 GMT
Well one ship and it’s not staying around for long!
Great story and available in the SF Masterworks range if you’re a book wanker.
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Dec 19, 2021 15:49:54 GMT
Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 19, 2021 15:49:54 GMT
Does it have huge slow moving space ships? Literally the hugest |
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Post by anephric on Dec 19, 2021 18:11:12 GMT
Yeah, Villeneuve was made for Rama. Not much happens and it's all epic empty SF scapes.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:31:05 GMT
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Post by gammonbanter on Dec 19, 2021 18:31:05 GMT
Yeah, Villeneuve was made for Rama. Not much happens and it's all epic empty SF scapes. Oh boy, I was just thinking about Rama this morning in the context of Dune being impossible to make into a film, but now been done very well. Did we have a specific thread about it on the old place? Cos I seem to remember admitting that I've read all the abysmal sequels; which tried to give it a story. Rama is fine just as a book. |
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Dec 19, 2021 21:04:05 GMT
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Post by Nemesis on Dec 19, 2021 21:04:05 GMT
I gave up midway through book 3; probably best to ignore the sequels IMO.
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Dec 19, 2021 21:08:07 GMT
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Post by Lizard on Dec 19, 2021 21:08:07 GMT
I couldn't finish the second one. And when I tried to give it back to the person from whom I borrowed it they refused and told me it was my problem now.
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Dec 19, 2021 21:16:54 GMT
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Post by Nemesis on Dec 19, 2021 21:16:54 GMT
Yeah that makes sense!
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Dec 19, 2021 21:23:43 GMT
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Post by Lizard on Dec 19, 2021 21:23:43 GMT
I think I still have it.
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Dec 19, 2021 21:24:26 GMT
Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 19, 2021 21:24:26 GMT
I read all four but, yes, it only needed to be three, if that.
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Dec 19, 2021 21:37:03 GMT
Post by Nemesis on Dec 19, 2021 21:37:03 GMT
I never realised they made four! Well done on getting through it!
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Dec 19, 2021 21:46:09 GMT
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Post by anephric on Dec 19, 2021 21:46:09 GMT
I'd avoid anything where Clarke scribbled some notes on the back of a serviette to Gentry Lee.
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Dec 19, 2021 21:55:13 GMT
Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 19, 2021 21:55:13 GMT
I never realised they made four! Well done on getting through it! The scifi section of our school library was, basically, Asimov and Clarke. I've read all the 2001 books, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 1:49:01 GMT
They don't get better either, but good writing was never really Clarkes strong point for me, just the staggering intellect to come up with it all. Amazing ideas, but less than scintillating writing.
Anyway Villeneuve + Rama = a squee from me, as much as anything does these days.
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Post by anephric on Dec 20, 2021 11:42:56 GMT
Clarke has written things that are a bit more lyrical. Normally he's stoic doctor and sexy lady assistant guy (he's not alone in that oeuvre of SF writing) but Childhood's End has some flowery prose, especially at the end, that is unusual for Clarke.
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Dec 20, 2021 11:47:54 GMT
Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 20, 2021 11:47:54 GMT
Despite being a big sf fan, I've never actually read any Clarke. Not really sure why. I think it sounded a bit intimidating when I was young, and I assumed it'd be a bit redundant now.
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Dec 20, 2021 11:48:36 GMT
Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 20, 2021 11:48:36 GMT
The syfy adaptation was surprisingly good. They do (very infrequently) sneak out the odd decent thing
EDIT: Childhoods End, that is. The Dune adaptations are also pretty good.
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Dec 20, 2021 11:51:17 GMT
Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 20, 2021 11:51:17 GMT
I quite liked the SyFy dune adaptions, but you have to be able to overlook the weird costume choices and the obviously insufficient budget. The second one in particular was pretty good.
The new movie kinda makes them redundant though. They aren't even in the same league as that.
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Post by anephric on Dec 20, 2021 11:57:29 GMT
It's the only adaptation that has COUNT FENRING
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 12:26:45 GMT
Clarke has written things that are a bit more lyrical. Normally he's stoic doctor and sexy lady assistant guy (he's not alone in that oeuvre of SF writing) but Childhood's End has some flowery prose, especially at the end, that is unusual for Clarke. I've been listening to an audiobook of The Hammer of God, one I haven't read. I think it's about an asteroid heading for earth but 90 minutes in and were still setting up the stoic doctor, who is taking part in the moon olympics or something. I think. It's not an easy listen  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 12:32:01 GMT
I quite liked the SyFy dune adaptions, but you have to be able to overlook the weird costume choices and the obviously insufficient budget. The second one in particular was pretty good. The new movie kinda makes them redundant though. They aren't even in the same league as that. I think there is plenty of room for both. The budgets may differ but the TV series has a largely great (if occasionally uneven) cast, and a lot of great sequences. And tons of very beautiful people. |
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Post by bichii on Jan 24, 2022 15:01:12 GMT
Silly question but I want to read the book as I can't wait for part two. Do I just need to first novel dune that would encompass the two movies?
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Post by MysteryLamb on Jan 24, 2022 15:05:02 GMT
I believe so.
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Post by Dgzter on Jan 24, 2022 15:05:45 GMT
Yes, you'll only 'need' to have read the original Dune if you're primarily thinking about the second part to the recent movie.
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Post by bichii on Jan 24, 2022 15:07:04 GMT
Also the ms Xbox movie app is shit. I bought uhd dune from there and any panning camera or high motion stuff is juddery. I don't get that on Disney, netflix etc in 4k. Might ask for a refund. I assume it's just the shit Xbox app or something.
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Post by Immaterial on Jan 26, 2022 8:14:52 GMT
Wowsers indeed. Going by that stock photo of him, Villeneuve doesn't have eyes- must make his job incredibly difficult. |
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Post by robthehermit on Jan 26, 2022 12:13:09 GMT
Yes, you'll only 'need' to have read the original Dune if you're primarily thinking about the second part to the recent movie. And for the rest, you only need to read Messiah and Children Of. It all gets a bit silly after that. |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Feb 1, 2022 11:27:25 GMT
Finally had some time to watch this last night. It is as good as I had hoped it would be but I don't think it's a good for the average viewer.
I'm glad that I didn't have my wife watching this with me, she would've been bored senseless after the first 10 mins.
I loved the history and lore that the film showed within the Dune universe and the harkonians weren't comic bad guys this time.
Can't wait for Part 2!
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