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Post by Dougs on May 24, 2023 10:33:04 GMT
Yeah, I'd seen that before. Grrr.
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Post by Dougs on May 24, 2023 10:34:55 GMT
Same with petrol the other year, prices are now going up because companies are just YOLO hiking them to increase profits. And utilities. Gas is about the price it was per therm about 3 years ago and yet unit cost remains through the roof. Even after Ofgem lower the cap. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 24, 2023 10:35:16 GMT
Probably old news but I'd never seen this before: Who knew that she'd been a lying cunt all this time??? |
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Post by simple on May 24, 2023 11:03:07 GMT
Starmer really needs to get out his big boy KC DPP pants on for PMQs today. The Home Secretary did a crime, tried to cover it up and the PM is too scared do anything about it, its an open goal
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Post by TheSaint on May 24, 2023 11:06:32 GMT
Pay rise for whoever came up with that line.
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Post by askew on May 24, 2023 13:43:58 GMT
Probably old news but I'd never seen this before: Cuc Soc |
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 24, 2023 13:48:53 GMT
Clever lines at PMQs don't really mean anything though.
Labour could present clear-cut evidence of a murder with a body and murder weapon included and the government would just go 'yeah, but you smell! nah nah!" and no-one would care because most people don't watch PMQs.
Starmer needs to get on some non-politics TV shows or something and make the point there.. using clear simple language rather than clever lines that just come across as point-scoring.
Well, he probably doesn't need to do that anymore with the Tories self destructing on their own... but it wouldn't hurt.
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Post by askew on May 24, 2023 13:49:28 GMT
Another way for this crook to rinse us
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Post by Dougs on May 24, 2023 14:34:41 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on May 24, 2023 14:49:33 GMT
Steven Swinford is having a busy day!
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Post by dogbot on May 24, 2023 15:31:45 GMT
It's odd how encrypted messages are suddenly importantly private when they were sent by Boris.
Apparently, they're worried about some "irreverent" comments he made about Sarah Everard.
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Post by geefe on May 24, 2023 15:41:19 GMT
MPs to Facebook: "Stop encrypting messages and preventing police seeing them"
Also MPs: "No you can't see Boris' whatsapp messages. Fuck off, pigs"
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Post by elstoof on May 24, 2023 15:43:06 GMT
Tata are investing in a new U.K. car battery plant! It’s only costing us taxpayers £800m in subsidies for them to invest in Britain, what a boon for us all
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Post by dogbot on May 24, 2023 15:56:40 GMT
I wonder how many Tata shares Akshata Murthy has?
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Post by X201 on May 24, 2023 16:02:02 GMT
The message back was probably: This file contains the complete set of papers, except for a number of secret documents, a few others which are part of still active files, some correspondence lost in the floods of 1967, some records which went astray in the move to London and others when the War Office was incorporated in the Ministry of Defence, and the normal withdrawal of papers whose publication could give grounds for an action for libel or breach of confidence or cause embarrassment to friendly governments". |
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Post by deekyfun on May 24, 2023 16:39:17 GMT
As far as I can tell from the last few times watching PMQs, it seems to consist of Starmer asking a pointed question and then Sunak standing up and not bothering to answer the question at all, but say a few soundbites about stopping boats, being a government for the people, etc... its infuriating.
Is this par for the course or has it gotten worse? Because I barely see the point in its present format.
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Post by Danno on May 24, 2023 16:41:11 GMT
It makes a mild change from the torrent of lies.
Sunak's delivery is hilarious, it's pure my dad is bigger than your dad
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Post by djronz on May 24, 2023 16:43:23 GMT
As far as I can tell from the last few times watching PMQs, it seems to consist of Starmer asking a pointed question and then Sunak standing up and not bothering to answer the question at all, but say a few soundbites about stopping boats, being a government for the people, etc... its infuriating. Is this par for the course or has it gotten worse? Because I barely see the point in its present format. That's pretty much it, they should be made to actually answer the question or at least the opposition should just keep repeating it to make the point it's a farce. |
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Post by Dougs on May 24, 2023 16:59:09 GMT
Tbf, that all sounds quite normal for most opposition questions for the last goodness knows how long (or since they were televised). It only became a thing in wider consciousness in the last 10 years or so imo.
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Post by deekyfun on May 24, 2023 17:05:35 GMT
It makes a mild change from the torrent of lies. Sunak's delivery is hilarious, it's pure my dad is bigger than your dad Mr Speaker, his delivery and speaking pattern is exactly the same every single time, Mr Speaker. You could replace any of his 'retorts' with any of his other ones over the previous weeks and no one would be able to tell. |
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Post by Vandelay on May 24, 2023 17:07:26 GMT
Johnson obviously just bullshitted his way through PMQs. He very much had a few scripted bits that he would always get in somehow, even if they beared no relation to the question.
Truss then tried to do the same thing, but as with most things, she was shit at it.
Sunak's first couple of PMQs were actually not too bad. Maybe not actually useful for anyone, but at least seemed to be bringing some kind of level of debate to the proceedings. Then he realised he wasn't actually going to ever win taking that approach and just went back to the Johnson playbook for them. They've been a shitshow ever since.
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Post by dogbot on May 24, 2023 17:13:05 GMT
It makes a mild change from the torrent of lies. Sunak's delivery is hilarious, it's pure my dad is bigger than your dad Mr Speaker, his delivery and speaking pattern is exactly the same every single time, Mr Speaker. You could replace any of his 'retorts' with any of his other ones over the previous weeks and no one would be able to tell. Mr Speaker, I'd like to remind the "Honourable" "Gentleman", that, Mr Speaker, I am incredibly rich. And am only doing this for my own amusement. Boats. |
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Post by mothercruncher on May 24, 2023 17:22:06 GMT
Sunak *has* got a spine, but, seeing him standing next to fellow world leaders, it’s apparent it’s the length of a seven year old boys.
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Post by zephro on May 24, 2023 18:37:14 GMT
Johnson obviously just bullshitted his way through PMQs. He very much had a few scripted bits that he would always get in somehow, even if they beared no relation to the question. Truss then tried to do the same thing, but as with most things, she was shit at it. Sunak's first couple of PMQs were actually not too bad. Maybe not actually useful for anyone, but at least seemed to be bringing some kind of level of debate to the proceedings. Then he realised he wasn't actually going to ever win taking that approach and just went back to the Johnson playbook for them. They've been a shitshow ever since. Yeah basically. Sunak did start out by answering questions, repeatedly got rinsed by Starmer lining up questions to catch him out. So has just reverted to going "ner ner ner ner" |
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Post by Reviewer on May 24, 2023 18:40:55 GMT
I only remember PMQs being completely idiotic since Boris. They’ve never served any useful purpose for as long as I can remember before that and the general population don’t give a shit about them.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 25, 2023 2:07:15 GMT
I think it was Boris who completed the trend of making them entirely pointless.
Before him people did usually at least try to say something vaguely relevant to the question. Almost no-one watched them or cared, but they weren't a total waste of time.
These days not only does no-one watch them, but since the PM doesn't even make a pretense of answering the question they're a total waste of time for all involved, and it doesn't matter how well Starmer does in them.
Frankly, Labour should start refusing to ask any more questions until the speaker forces the PM to answer the first one.
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Post by X201 on May 25, 2023 4:43:27 GMT
They need to start asking relevant questions that aren’t guessable by Sunak’s advisors,
Avoid stuff in the news this week, but ask questions on stuff that is relevant to the public.
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Post by Dougs on May 25, 2023 5:42:55 GMT
They are given the questions in advance so they can be briefed properly. It doesn't serve anyone if they have no idea as there's no way anyone can have the answer to any question at all. Not 100% on opposition questions, but definitely the rest. Otherwise you'll just have blank looks and lots of shuffling of paper.
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Post by X201 on May 25, 2023 5:59:59 GMT
Yeah, I know they get a heads up on the local MP asking about the drains in Dunny-on-the-Wold, but if they get a heads up on opposition questions that makes the whole thing even more pointless.
The main thing I want is Starmer asking questions that can’t be batted away by Sunak having a bi-polar episode and thinking he heard a different question
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Post by minimatt on May 25, 2023 6:04:57 GMT
not sure that's the case? least it wasn't the case in the past that the PM had advance sight of LOTO questions
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