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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 5, 2022 18:20:55 GMT
The man trying to snatch a flag from two peacefully protesting women really would have deserved an elbow to the teeth from one of them. I know that then turns it not peaceful but the sight of it made me livid. If you aren't security and there's no threat to anyone, don't get handsy. Tenner bet he wouldn't have done it to two blokes. He would have done it to blokes that he probably thought wouldn't threaten his masculinity.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 5, 2022 18:28:47 GMT
I was just thinking, and you know what? My dream is Suella Braverman on a rocket being deported to the Sun.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 5, 2022 19:04:33 GMT
Is it your obsession?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 5, 2022 19:11:01 GMT
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Post by mothercruncher on Oct 5, 2022 19:49:39 GMT
My dream is Suella Braverman. Jambo, October 5th 2022.
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Post by cubby on Oct 5, 2022 19:49:45 GMT
I suspect one of the main reasons people won't vote for the tories next time is because they're being too overtly racist at the moment. They'd much rather their racism is at least disguised with dog whistles and innuendo.
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Post by anthonyuk on Oct 5, 2022 21:25:49 GMT
I suspect one of the main reasons people won't vote for the tories next time is because they're being too overtly racist at the moment. They'd much rather their racism is at least disguised with dog whistles and innuendo. Definitely this! Being blatently racist doesn't appear to give people the same warm smug feeling. Claims of people stealing jobs, destroying the NHS along with the turbo dog whistle of it being done by "fighting age men" allows people to treat their racism as a comforting warm bath, while feeling good about themselves. Almost seems cruel to take that from them.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 5, 2022 21:39:13 GMT
Yeah, I do wonder if they are such a bunch of twats we have moved past the shy Tory stage and into ‘even the stasi couldn’t extract my voting intentions’ territory
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Oct 5, 2022 23:14:58 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 5, 2022 23:25:16 GMT
Brilliant. Absolutely fucking brilliant.
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Post by stuz359 on Oct 5, 2022 23:49:31 GMT
Tories are done. This is basically Murdoch TV, and I find myself agreeing with Piers fucking Morgan.
This is definitely the worst timeline.
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Post by Danno on Oct 6, 2022 0:30:38 GMT
Agreeing with Gove was bad enough, now I need to somehow vomit up my own pancreas
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Post by X201 on Oct 6, 2022 5:03:03 GMT
Was Truss referring to “militant unions” like the nurses, who are balloting for strike action for the first time in it’s 106 year history? Union urges UK nurses to strike for first time www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63150632
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Post by kal on Oct 6, 2022 7:24:30 GMT
My worry is this is all part of the plan to get Johnson back into power, and we’re all falling for it.
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Post by geefe on Oct 6, 2022 7:25:41 GMT
I did snort at the "militant unions" line. They're not blocking access to things, they're just striking.
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 6, 2022 7:46:32 GMT
My worry is this is all part of the plan to get Johnson back into power, and we’re all falling for it. There is definitely a contingent that wants that. But it's just one of many contingents. The bigger issue I think is that the party itself *feels* divided and aimless now. From various quotes from Tory MPs I've read from various reporters, they genuinely do seem to completely at sea with no idea as a group of what to do
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 6, 2022 7:47:59 GMT
You would hope that even they know how much of a banana republic that would make us look, even if that’s what they all want.
If Boris did come back, that’s got to be an immediate no confidence vote and a GE
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 6, 2022 8:02:38 GMT
There are no good options for them, really.
Their own selection process gave a leader most of the MPs don't want.
A GE would be suicide with the polling where it is.
Another leadership election would make them look nuts, erode their credibility further and might produce another wrong 'un anyway.
They're fucked.
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 6, 2022 8:04:06 GMT
Their only option is to put on their best shit eating grin and throw their weight behind truss. Cos it's all they've got.
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Post by spindrwolf on Oct 6, 2022 8:05:46 GMT
The bigger issue I think is that the party itself *feels* divided and aimless now. From various quotes from Tory MPs I've read from various reporters, they genuinely do seem to completely at sea with no idea as a group of what to do That I think is pretty close to the money, I've been thinking for a while that the Conservative party is now unleadable, there are too many divisions and some are now way to deep to resolve imo. The referendum was supposed to put the main one to bed, but it has just made it worse and taught the rest of them that they can throw a tanturm and if not get what they want, at least stop what they don't. It has made any concept of 'collective cabinet responsibility' a tattered shred for them. They need to hurry up and rip themselves apart into two or three different parties, or at least have the deceny to allow a general election so they can do it in opposition for a while, because it's pretty apparently they aren't going to work together for anything.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 6, 2022 8:15:57 GMT
The funny/ironic/nice thing is that if these particular psychopaths had been at the wheel in 2019 with the much touted 'thumping majority', they could have pretty much done anything they wanted with no real pushback. But, instead, they inherited a country from a government that did nothing but sit with its finger up its arse for nearly three years and everyone is absolutely fucking sick of them. It is genuinely quite funny how little this administration has achieved.
They would have also killed more people during covid, too, so swings and roundabout.
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 6, 2022 8:35:54 GMT
I make it 3 distinct camps, and any large party is going to be divided. Previously, and unlike Labour, they have mostly been able to pull it together when they really needed in order to secure power.
Truss is a bit like their Corbyn moment. A wing of the party they tolerate because they need the votes but don't trust are now in the driver's seat.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 6, 2022 8:39:59 GMT
Is one of those factions 'realises they are fucked and putting as much distance as possible between them and the government'?
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 6, 2022 9:04:24 GMT
Agreeing with Gove was bad enough, now I need to somehow vomit up my own pancreas I melted like the Nazis at the end of Raiders when I agreed with Nadine Dorries that Truss had no electoral mandate for what she was doing.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 6, 2022 9:10:23 GMT
If it makes you feel better, she was only saying that because she believed *she* had a mandate for doing something literally nobody in their right mind wanted her to do.
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Post by kal on Oct 6, 2022 9:21:16 GMT
It’s really the first time I can ever remember the Tory party being this divided. Traditionally that’s Labour’s thing.
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Post by Saul1138 on Oct 6, 2022 9:28:31 GMT
My worry is this is all part of the plan to get Johnson back into power, and we’re all falling for it. There is definitely a contingent that wants that. But it's just one of many contingents. The bigger issue I think is that the party itself *feels* divided and aimless now. From various quotes from Tory MPs I've read from various reporters, they genuinely do seem to completely at sea with no idea as a group of what to do Surely not? Johnson delivered Brexit. Cameron said that vote would heal the division in the party. Are you telling me it didn’t even manage that?
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 6, 2022 9:35:13 GMT
Ironically, Camerons push for diversity within the party has given us some of the biggest headcases.
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Post by technoish on Oct 6, 2022 9:46:02 GMT
Dear lord you know it's bad when Nadine Dorries complains Truss has lurched the party to the right.
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Post by X201 on Oct 6, 2022 9:56:01 GMT
Ironically, Camerons push for diversity within the party has given us some of the biggest headcases. Cameron and Milliband united in diversity
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