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Post by rawshark on Jul 5, 2024 10:08:00 GMT
Shame it doesn’t look like it will rain during Rishi’s resignation. That would be too perfect.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Jul 5, 2024 10:10:34 GMT
Some of you are determined not to enjoy yourselves today.
Lighten up! The Tories are fucked, so many of the twattiest MPs around are gone and we appear to have an actual government!
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Post by tincanrocket on Jul 5, 2024 10:10:44 GMT
Happy to see the back of the Tories \o/, not sold on Starmer at all, though, having voted for him in the Labor leadership contest, prior to him winning and pedalling back on most of the things he had said he would support. I haven't double-checked this, but seen that these are the figures for the last 3 elections...
2017 32.2m votes Labour 12.9m Con 13.7m LD 2.4m 2019 32.0m votes Labour 10.3m Con 14.0m LD 3.7m 2024 28.6m votes Labour 9.7m Con 6.8m LD 3.5m Reform 4.0m
So, Starmer got fewer votes than the disastrous 2019 Labour (Corbyn-led) vote and apparently has the lowest percentage vote of a majority government ever? Hardly a ringing endorsement...
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jul 5, 2024 10:15:04 GMT
Tories' disenfranchisement tactics didn't work out for them then
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Post by drakesmoke on Jul 5, 2024 10:16:27 GMT
My hope is that they are revealed as charlatans quite quickly and melt away. The only thing is Tories will want those types of voters back. The biggest challenge for Labour isn’t the economy, it’s changing our culture back to be an informed, critically thinking, welcoming one. However I think that’s a generation or two off and beyond politics. I think it’s a long game that involves waiting for lots of people to shuffle off the earth, and I think we would all be nuked by then anyway. I think a lot of people inherit it off their parents though, so I don't think this country will ever be as progressive or left as say Denmark, despite as much as people on here are willing for the UK to become. You think the vast majority of people are willing to sacrifice more of their income on taxes for better services? I only mention Denmark as I know what it's like over there, there's free childcare, look after the elderly, dentists for children, great healthcare.. but you're sacrificing half your wage. I honestly think the UK is full of self serving people, who rightly or wrongly look after themselves and their families interests over that of other people. I don’t disagree with your points but I’m mainly talking about the culture war stuff and general hatred. I do understand there is nuance and connection between the self-serving stuff you are referencing and the stuff I am. And yep attitudes are inherited but there is also hope at schools - the kids at our primary were so right-on/woke…until they went to the jungle of the local high school and all started using ‘gay’ as a pejorative like it’s 1995 all over again. If the schools were aligned at both levels based on my meaningless anecdotal experience, hate would be gone by the time that generation grows up!
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Post by Zyrr on Jul 5, 2024 10:19:03 GMT
The Tories have always done well by virtue of being the only (vaguely serious) right wing party choice on the ballot paper compared to the 3-way split the progressive parties have always had to contend with.
I'm not overly fond of those Reform numbers, but it's high time the Cons lost their clear path to power. The only thing that could ever see them regain their previous vote share now would be if they somehow merged with Reform before the next election, surely?
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Post by elstoof on Jul 5, 2024 10:20:24 GMT
Ready 4 Rishi 2 Fuck Off
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Post by nemesis on Jul 5, 2024 10:25:34 GMT
Off you all fuck.
Lovely.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Jul 5, 2024 10:30:57 GMT
Larry the Cat looking like he had a night out in the town celebrating a labour win.
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Post by Tuffty on Jul 5, 2024 10:38:46 GMT
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Post by rawshark on Jul 5, 2024 10:43:08 GMT
Some of you are determined not to enjoy yourselves today. Lighten up! The Tories are fucked, so many of the twattiest MPs around are gone and we appear to have an actual government! Oh don’t worry I’ll be ready to start drinking again by lunch time.
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Post by elstoof on Jul 5, 2024 10:45:54 GMT
I hope Charles’ reaction to Rishi’s visit was alongbthe same lines as when Truss entered the room
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Post by rhaegyr on Jul 5, 2024 10:48:16 GMT
Any surprises for the new cabinet? Shocked to see Ashworth go.
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Post by otto on Jul 5, 2024 10:53:28 GMT
Today's word of the day: Schadenfreude (noun): pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune. my whatsapp group last night was called schadenfreudeklatsch
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Post by Ulythium on Jul 5, 2024 11:01:36 GMT
Who're we expecting to take over from Sunak and become Leader of the Opposition, then?
I'm guessing it'll be one of the far-right nutters like Braverman or Badenoch, who'll use Reform's showing in the election to argue in favour of more extremism.
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Post by cubby on Jul 5, 2024 11:02:25 GMT
Braverman 100%
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Post by rawshark on Jul 5, 2024 11:04:39 GMT
Yeah I'm just catching up and saw her speech on holding Fareham. She really stuck the knife in to Rishi. She's dead set on getting those Reform voters back.
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Post by robthehermit on Jul 5, 2024 11:05:44 GMT
It doesn't matter. There is no opposition - Starmer can pretty much do whatever the fuck he likes.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 5, 2024 11:06:24 GMT
I wonder how Owen Jones is doing?
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Post by Dougs on Jul 5, 2024 11:06:44 GMT
Yep, definitely.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Jul 5, 2024 11:09:02 GMT
Who're we expecting to take over from Sunak and become Leader of the Opposition, then? I'm guessing it'll be one of the far-right nutters like Braverman or Badenoch, who'll use Reform's showing in the election to argue in favour of more extremism. I honestly don’t know where they go. Cameron broke the party in two with the Brexit Refrendum and I can’t really see how they can square off people they lost to reform and people they lost to Lib Dem.
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Post by tincanrocket on Jul 5, 2024 11:12:36 GMT
It doesn't matter. There is no opposition - Starmer can pretty much do whatever the fuck he likes. Hoping there will at least be some internal opposition as and when he starts paying his corporate donors back, but he might have already purged all of the socialists?
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Post by nemesis on Jul 5, 2024 11:16:51 GMT
Mordaunt, but, honestly, they can all get in the bin. Then set it aflame.
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Post by Rich on Jul 5, 2024 11:18:46 GMT
She can't, she's out.
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Post by zephro on Jul 5, 2024 11:18:53 GMT
It's funny how during these big historic events just how much of the coverage ends up being a live feed of Buckingham Palace, with people saying you can't know what the king is saying, so it's just a BBC presenter vamping over the top of a boring feed for an hour.
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Post by technoish on Jul 5, 2024 11:19:46 GMT
I wonder how Owen Jones is doing? Probably not too bad, we can probably expect an article highlighting Jezzers and other independent MP wins as proof Starmer is the worst human being.
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Post by simple on Jul 5, 2024 11:20:05 GMT
Who're we expecting to take over from Sunak and become Leader of the Opposition, then? I'm guessing it'll be one of the far-right nutters like Braverman or Badenoch, who'll use Reform's showing in the election to argue in favour of more extremism. Interesting to hear a discussion last night that because Brady has stood down the Tories don’t even have anyone to formalise the rules by which the new leader will be chosen. It’ll definitely be a nutter though. All night the lesson they were saying they’ve learnt is that they need to go harder right to chase down Reform voters rather than contesting the centre with Labour.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jul 5, 2024 11:20:23 GMT
Captain Beany, 618 votes.
618 people actually put their mark next to this.
More than six hundred people.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Jul 5, 2024 11:21:51 GMT
Resetera still having a meltdown on how Starmer isn’t Corbyn.
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Post by simple on Jul 5, 2024 11:21:54 GMT
I wonder how Owen Jones is doing? Probably not too bad, we can probably expect an article highlighting Jezzers and other independent MP wins as proof Starmer is the worst human being. His graphic saying “Labour will win anyway so vote Green” was popping up over and over again getting shared into my instagram feed so he’ll probably be pleased they outperformed the exit poll too.
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