cubby
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Post by cubby on Mar 12, 2024 19:06:34 GMT
Cue a labour donor being accused of antisemitism in 3.... 2....
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Onny
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Post by Onny on Mar 12, 2024 19:08:06 GMT
Yes but if they are accused then the important thing is to give them space for forgiveness.
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X201
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Post by X201 on Mar 12, 2024 19:25:41 GMT
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Rich
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Post by Rich on Mar 12, 2024 20:01:55 GMT
But how can he be a racist? He does business in Jamaica!
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Frog
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Post by Frog on Mar 12, 2024 20:06:43 GMT
Having visited some of the old plantation sites in Jamaica I think there was quite a bit of racist business has been done there.
Probably by his great great grandfather!
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Post by askew on Mar 12, 2024 20:14:38 GMT
The TPP reviews on Glassdoor are interesting.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 12, 2024 20:17:11 GMT
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Mar 12, 2024 20:43:28 GMT
Ha, I didn’t realise that dickhead was based round here. Shouldn’t be surprised I guess, it’s the most annoying tory-est bit of Leeds.
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geefe
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Post by geefe on Mar 12, 2024 20:59:42 GMT
No, no. He has given space for forgiveness. Also LOL at his mate's defence - "he's not racist. He's a businessman who has travelled to Jamaica"
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Post by eleven63 on Mar 12, 2024 21:36:33 GMT
Shitnik hasn't said fatfucker is a racist, it was a 'Downing Street spokesperson'...
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 12, 2024 22:46:06 GMT
So just to check this guy was racist. Eventually. But 30p, his comments were just wrong. Not racist, just wrong. Right?
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robthehermit
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Post by robthehermit on Mar 12, 2024 22:49:58 GMT
To be fair though, Abbott is a massive twat.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 12, 2024 23:05:42 GMT
So just to check this guy was racist. Eventually. But 30p, his comments were just wrong. Not racist, just wrong. Right? But why were they wrong, Minister? They were wrong. But why?
*repeat until he defects to Reform*
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Post by Danno on Mar 12, 2024 23:28:48 GMT
To be fair though, Abbott is a massive twat. Really? Now?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 12, 2024 23:37:41 GMT
I just ignored him tbh.
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Post by Danno on Mar 13, 2024 0:17:33 GMT
yeah probably the most sensible route. My bad.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 13, 2024 2:15:52 GMT
Rather surprised to see Badenoch calling it out as racism. I didn't think she believed in that sort of thing. --- Does not compute. www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68550404But anyway, I can't see this going down well with anyone. It's not going to persuade anyone who's already against the Rwanda scheme, and paying money to forruns isn't going to go down well with the little englanders either.
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Onny
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Post by Onny on Mar 13, 2024 5:20:09 GMT
Sometimes applicants get rejected but then their claimed home country doesn’t accept their return, so I assume they’re referring that.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 13, 2024 5:31:31 GMT
ohhh. I imagine (with zero data) that that'd be a pretty small percentage of asylum seekers.
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X201
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Post by X201 on Mar 13, 2024 7:37:51 GMT
The percentage doesn’t matter. As long as they get enough to fill a plane and spin it in order to claim a fake victory, that’s what matters
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apollo
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Post by apollo on Mar 13, 2024 7:48:30 GMT
Of course tory have racist arsehole as donor. There is something about Abbot - she is racist as well but I know people don't like it mentioned
No one deserves racist comments and we shouldn't be playing 'divide and rule' like Abbot accuses others doing when thats what she has done
edit her comments on Ukraine, are completely moronic
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Mar 13, 2024 7:50:14 GMT
This may sound cynical but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tory party as a whole if fairly ok with all this coming out to air (Hester comments). They been trying to obfuscate this sort of language and behaviour for ages and feels apart of their grander culture war nonsense. Come back reform voters we’re racist too!
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apollo
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Post by apollo on Mar 13, 2024 7:52:36 GMT
This may sound cynical but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tory party as a whole if fairly ok with all this coming out to air (Hester comments). They been trying to obfuscate this sort of language and behaviour for ages and feels apart of their grander culture war nonsense. Come back reform voters we’re racist too! I don't think its cynical, tories are losing their racist supporters/donors to reform and need to say "look I have not changed, please come back"
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Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 13, 2024 8:03:03 GMT
I know it’s badly worded but it is well documented that Black people receive worse outcomes in the nhs than white people due to inherent bias. She’s not actually wrong on that
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apollo
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Post by apollo on Mar 13, 2024 8:13:06 GMT
the moment she starts using hyperbole, it makes her look more stupid. She should of just something along the lines of this article
I didn't think saying white finnish were unsuitable as nurses is helpful for her case
But there is long list of things that abbot that has said that is racist (unless you are smooth brain that believes you can't be racist if you hate white people)
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geefe
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Post by geefe on Mar 13, 2024 8:13:50 GMT
Two things can be true at the same time. Abbott can be bigoted herself and still be a victim of racism.
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Post by Vandelay on Mar 13, 2024 8:16:19 GMT
I'm not really sure why the racism of Abbott is relevant to the racism of Hester. It is perfectly possible for someone to be a victim and a perpetrator, and for people to support them for the former and condone them for the latter.
She has said many a stupid thing, some of which was certainly racist (she was suspended from Labour for that reason). That doesn't make it ok for the vile bilge that comes her way and is legitimised by the media.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 13, 2024 8:16:49 GMT
the moment she starts using hyperbole, it makes her look more stupid. She should of just something along the lines of this article
I didn't think saying white finnish were unsuitable as nurses is helpful for her case
But there is long list of things that abbot that has said that is racist (unless you are smooth brain that believes you can't be racist if you hate white people)
You know, when you write stuff like this as you did just a bit earlier in the thread you're essentially waving away and giving justification towards the racism that directed at Abbott. Many people know she's been problematic and has said things in the past that aren't helpful but I'm very confused at what you're trying to achieve here.
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apollo
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Post by apollo on Mar 13, 2024 8:29:39 GMT
I'm not really sure why the racism of Abbott is relevant to the racism of Hester. It is perfectly possible for someone to be a victim and a perpetrator, and for people to support them for the former and condone them for the latter. She has said many a stupid thing, some of which was certainly racist (she was suspended from Labour for that reason). That doesn't make it ok for the vile bilge that comes her way and is legitimised by the media. thats what I have said, the torygraph media is horrible and needs be brought in line.
Why I mentioned it:
Danno asked her she was "moron" and I just replied (rob hermit should of said why but thats on him)
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 13, 2024 8:32:06 GMT
Danno didn't ask that, he was insinuating as to why that's of any importance as to the matter at hand.
Again, both posts that you wrote have done the opposite and actually legitimised the racism that Abbott has received. I don't know if that was your intention but that's what's happened here. Maybe something to think about for the future.
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