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Post by askew on Feb 6, 2024 9:47:49 GMT
What an eedjit
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 6, 2024 9:56:51 GMT
Boris Johnson : I was surprised by cake!
Rishi Sunak : I was surprised by a bet!
You can always say no to something, it's quite easy, you're not Danny Wallace doing a sequel to "Yes Man".
Kwasi Kwarteng has joined the list of Tory MPs not standing at the next election, I guess he'll be working for Tufton Street more openly soon.
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Post by Vandelay on Feb 6, 2024 9:58:23 GMT
I'm just constantly amazed at how shit at politics he is. When he came to power I feared he would give off an air of competence in his shiny suits that would win people over for them to sneak a win at the next election. Somehow though he manages to barely reach Theresa May levels of competence.
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 6, 2024 10:03:37 GMT
His lack of experience in politics is on display every time he says anything, dropped into a safe seat and given responsibility far too soon by the buffoon Johnson then given the leadership when he couldn't even beat the very thick Truss in a contest.
He's really, really shit at politics.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 6, 2024 10:31:06 GMT
And he promoted himself as being "the adult in the room". Glol.
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Post by Matt A on Feb 6, 2024 11:27:24 GMT
Sad news for sure. I think whatever your position on the monarchy, Charles and the princes have shown up the politicians in power by demonstrating integrity.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 6, 2024 11:31:34 GMT
Sad news for sure. I think whatever your position on the monarchy, Charles and the princes have shown up the politicians in power by demonstrating integrity. Yeah...Prince Andrew...FULL of integrity. |
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Post by Matt A on Feb 6, 2024 11:32:45 GMT
Yeah that’s why I named them. I thought of him when I was typing, which I guess highlights the problem with the monarchy
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 6, 2024 11:35:08 GMT
Have they demonstrated integrity, really? Genuine question.
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Feb 6, 2024 11:39:54 GMT
Sad news for sure. I think whatever your position on the monarchy, Charles and the princes have shown up the politicians in power by demonstrating integrity. Do you mean the one who cheated on his wife, the one who cheated on his wife, or the one who whined about not receiving a big enough handout? |
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Post by Matt A on Feb 6, 2024 11:40:28 GMT
I was thinking about the Environment specifically. Charles seems prepared to make a stand based on his conviction. Elizabeth stuck rigidly to being impartial but Charles has seemed to be prepared to voice his opinions. The sons have also been very vocal on issues they feel strongly about, like mental health. Maybe integrity is the wrong word.
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Post by Danno on Feb 6, 2024 11:57:20 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68214641🎶🎵You took me by surprise took me by surprise, I must say When you bet me, that money. Well you know I got interviewed by Morgan And made myself look a right sexual organ Yeah you know I got interviewed by Piers Made myself look like I'd nowt between my ears. 🎵🎶 You shook on it you cunt. How can we trust you now. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 6, 2024 12:06:14 GMT
I was thinking about the Environment specifically. Charles seems prepared to make a stand based on his conviction. Elizabeth stuck rigidly to being impartial but Charles has seemed to be prepared to voice his opinions. The sons have also been very vocal on issues they feel strongly about, like mental health. Maybe integrity is the wrong word. I guess it's easy to voice your opinions when you're born into extreme wealth and you have the sense of entitlement that makes you believe that everyone must hear your opinions regardless of how valid they are |
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Post by Matt A on Feb 6, 2024 12:14:26 GMT
Don’t beat around the bush, what do you really think?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 6, 2024 12:17:00 GMT
I don't think I've said anything controversial here.
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Post by Matt A on Feb 6, 2024 12:20:39 GMT
No I know, I was joking. I don’t have a strong opinion on the monarchy, I guess if we’re stuck with them it’s a gamble that could be worse. I’m certainly not going to argue their case because, as I say, I don’t give enough of a shit. You obviously have a strong opinion, which I was joking about.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Feb 6, 2024 12:25:41 GMT
Whilst I'm far from a royalist, and agree that their privilege makes it easier to speak about things that feel strongly about, on the odd occasion that their viewpoint on something overlaps with mine I'll take it.
I do largely agree with Charles's environmentalism. On the other hand his views on homeopathy can do one.
Somehow doubt the king will be combatting cancer via homeopathic remedies though.
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Post by Matt A on Feb 6, 2024 12:32:23 GMT
I guess that’s how I feel. As an unelected institution they’re indefensible in terms of a modern fair democratic society.
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Post by geefe on Feb 6, 2024 12:38:43 GMT
I like Charles's environmental stance as well. Quite happy for him to be vocal about it. Who gives a fuck if it's from a position of privilege? All privileged people should be using that to inspire.
Else we end up with Musk and Trump, etc. Both of whom have far more impact on the world.
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Post by otto on Feb 6, 2024 13:09:04 GMT
I think it's perfectly consistent and indeed rational to be both anti-monarchy on one hand and quite pleased that Charles uses his position to advocate for environmentalism on the other. It's good when celebrities use their reach to advocate on stuff that matters. As long as I agree with what they're saying. The ones saying stuff that I don't agree with, well they can fuck off.
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Post by Matt A on Feb 6, 2024 13:19:33 GMT
I think the argument that celebrities should stay in their lane changed with the proliferation of social media. Now that everyone has a platform I think it’s fair that famous people can join the conversation on issues if they feel strongly enough. If what they say is bullshit then that will get discriminated quickly.
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Post by sport✅ on Feb 6, 2024 14:01:45 GMT
I'll only start taking their opinions seriously when they arrive at engagements by sail boat like Greta.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 6, 2024 14:08:40 GMT
I think the argument that celebrities should stay in their lane changed with the proliferation of social media. Now that everyone has a platform I think it’s fair that famous people can join the conversation on issues if they feel strongly enough. If what they say is bullshit then that will get discriminated quickly. My only issue with that takeaway is how celebrities are feted as ALL their opinions matter because of their status and that opinion holds more weight than someone with actual experience and qualifications, you know? Sure if you're preaching for a good cause go for it but it's when it goes further because they've really been huffing their own farts. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 6, 2024 14:20:42 GMT
It’s also why we have found ourselves in this weird position where celebrity opinions carry a lot of weight which is why they, on the whole, never really say anything.
It’s nice that Charles says things about the environment but, y’know, he’s also in a position to stop his family taking private jets everywhere or stop mobilising a fleet of heavily armoured vehicles when one of them wants to put on a different hat.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 6, 2024 14:20:49 GMT
God, Liz Truss truly is thick as mince isn't she? That PopCon speech was some of the most disingenuous, right wing bingo garbage that I've ever had the displeasure of reading in quite a while.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Feb 6, 2024 14:28:14 GMT
She's a cretinous piece of shit but the potential for other cretinous pieces of shit to rally around her and cretinous ilk does disconcert me.
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Post by Matt A on Feb 6, 2024 14:49:27 GMT
My only issue with that takeaway is how celebrities are feted as ALL their opinions matter because of their status and that opinion holds more weight than someone with actual experience and qualifications, you know? Sure if you're preaching for a good cause go for it but it's when it goes further because they've really been huffing their own farts. Still, being a celeb and using that platform to voice opinions isn't a free pass. Matt LeTissier and JK Rowling to name a couple. When LeTissier starting trying to argue about the scientific efficacy of vaccines he just looked stupid and there were plenty of doctors to discredit him. Joey Barton is another. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 6, 2024 14:52:05 GMT
I suppose it also gives them the disinfectant of sunlight. She is the least popular politician in the country by some margin so anyone buying into this is going to look like even more of a halfwit than they already do.
It’s just a bunch of out of touch headbangers howling at the moon.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 6, 2024 14:53:46 GMT
My only issue with that takeaway is how celebrities are feted as ALL their opinions matter because of their status and that opinion holds more weight than someone with actual experience and qualifications, you know? Sure if you're preaching for a good cause go for it but it's when it goes further because they've really been huffing their own farts. Still, being a celeb and using that platform to voice opinions isn't a free pass. Matt LeTissier and JK Rowling to name a couple. When LeTissier starting trying to argue about the scientific efficacy of vaccines he just looked stupid and there were plenty of doctors to discredit him. Joey Barton is another. Tbf I don't think Joey Barton has to say anything for people to know that he's absolute cunt. |
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Post by kal on Feb 6, 2024 15:07:14 GMT
Call me a cynic but I’ve always suspected Charles’s environmentalism was a bit of a PR thing as part of his rebrand a few years back, as a way of making him somewhat relatable to younger audiences.
Whether that’s the case or not, it’s certainly true that his reputation has been dramatically shifted since the late 90s when he was absolutely despised. Feels like that’s long forgotten now but he was one of the most hated men in the country at one point.
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