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Post by anthonyuk on Feb 2, 2024 20:14:31 GMT
As mentioned, that our country is bordline ran in accordance to what the media tells them is just insane.
Maybe I'm being incredibly naive, but I'm not entirely convinced the public would be against paying for it, if they actually spelled out what the green plan was.
Seeing places like Windermere being pumped full of shit for the sake of profits, touches the nerve of anyone surely? And everyone has seen that our energy prices are at the mercy of whatever war or crisis is ongoing at the time.
When we'll all in theory be driving electric cars within the next few decades, how hard a sell could it be that investing now helps both our bills (admittedly years down the line)and reliance of energy aboard, while helping protect the countryside for future generations.
I can understand Labour being so risk averse, but I do wish Starmer could get some fire in his belly and sell the idea as a cause of national pride.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 3, 2024 2:44:41 GMT
Maybe I'm being incredibly naive, but I'm not entirely convinced the public would be against paying for it, if they actually spelled out what the green plan was. .... I can understand Labour being so risk averse, but I do wish Starmer could get some fire in his belly and sell the idea as a cause of national pride. Agreed. But there's almost zero chance of them being able to spell out what the plan is when the press will just be spinning it with scary headlines.
There are a whole bunch of things where, when pollsters actually drill down and ask people, the public actually support things that the public are supposedly against. Again, mainly because press headlines have misled people into developing strong opinions based on emotive misinformation.
No idea what the solution is though.
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Post by technoish on Feb 3, 2024 7:55:27 GMT
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Post by zephro on Feb 3, 2024 11:17:26 GMT
On the one hand, picking a number several years ago is kinda dumb. Borrowing rates were much lower before Truss, it was before Hunt purposefully left massive black holes in day to day spending with his tax cutes. They should have been saying record investment, directed industrial policy but not wang a number on it until you see the final budget projections before the election.
On the other; grow a fucking spine.
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Post by mothercruncher on Feb 3, 2024 11:46:23 GMT
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Post by Vandelay on Feb 5, 2024 17:21:49 GMT
x.com/Independent/status/1754497606611316795?s=20Unbelievable. Our PM has agreed to a bet with Piers Morgan about getting Rwanda flights going. Honestly though, I think he is so hopeless at this sort of confrontation where he will have to go off his script a little bit and think on his feet (note his words are just continuing with the script) that he just shaked the hand without really knowing what was going on. I'm sure there will be some weasel words from a press secretary saying something about him not actually agreeing to a bet.
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Post by minimatt on Feb 5, 2024 17:35:06 GMT
Gambling on human misery for sport is it, prime minister?
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Post by sport✅ on Feb 5, 2024 17:50:29 GMT
Not in my name!
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 5, 2024 18:09:05 GMT
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Post by X201 on Feb 5, 2024 18:12:58 GMT
Does that mean we now have to wear a shirt and tie when we post in the Kicking Cancer up the Arse thread?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 18:19:24 GMT
Veer towards republicanism but wish no harm on the people involved, and quite like Harry as a character. Although is he technically one anymore?
The Putin loophole is fine, I think.
ITV (and presumably every other channel) is currently doing that news thing where two lines of news (he has cancer and despite the prostate check it isn’t there) is being spun into half an hour.
Starts to be a bit ghoulish and certainly a bit undignified.
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 5, 2024 18:23:08 GMT
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool republican - and the international (over-) reaction to the Queen's death only reinforced those beliefs - but the list of people on whom I'd wish cancer is vanishingly small, and Charles isn't close to being on it.
Here's hoping he gets better.
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Post by geefe on Feb 5, 2024 19:07:09 GMT
I can imagine Sunak's people rubbing their hands, sadly
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Post by X201 on Feb 5, 2024 19:09:45 GMT
I can imagine Sunak's people rubbing their hands, sadly I dunno. The state of cancer treatment in the U.K. catapulted into the headlines, I don’t think they’d want that
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Post by minimatt on Feb 5, 2024 19:24:04 GMT
he's probably got a cheeky grand on him in the office celeb dead pool
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Post by Vandelay on Feb 5, 2024 20:59:33 GMT
Obviously it's sad news and even if I would much rather the monarchy would just go away, I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone (even someone vile like Putin I would rather see go with a bullet in the head), but the reporting of this news continues the absolute cringe-fest of our media when it comes to our royal family. Particularly aggravating with this story is the sycophants going on about how open they are about all of it, when they refuse to even say what kind of cancer he has. I really hope the reason for them not saying doesn't turn out because he has cancer somewhere that they are deeming "unseemly", as that would really be offensive to anyone that has those cancers.
I'm assuming the only reason we know at all about this is because they knew his treatment and disappearance from public life for an extended period of time meant they couldn't keep it quiet rather than because of any desire to be open about his health.
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Post by Frog on Feb 5, 2024 21:03:55 GMT
I can honestly say if I found out Putin had cancer I wouldn't give one single fuck even if he died in the most painful way imaginable.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 5, 2024 21:08:27 GMT
Isn't that quote about openness specifically about the prostate issues, not the cancer? In fairness to him he didn't need to disclose anything, so kudos to him for doing so and raising awareness.
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 5, 2024 21:24:10 GMT
The statement today specifically mentions the cancer diagnosis and wanting to be open about it.
During The King’s recent hospital procedure for benign prostate enlargement, a separate issue of concern was noted. Subsequent diagnostic tests have identified a form of cancer.
His Majesty has today commenced a schedule of regular treatments, during which time he has been advised by doctors to postpone public-facing duties. Throughout this period, His Majesty will continue to undertake State business and official paperwork as usual.
The King is grateful to his medical team for their swift intervention, which was made possible thanks to his recent hospital procedure. He remains wholly positive about his treatment and looks forward to returning to full public duty as soon as possible.
His Majesty has chosen to share his diagnosis to prevent speculation and in the hope it may assist public understanding for all those around the world who are affected by cancer.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 5, 2024 21:26:38 GMT
Ah. Fuck 'em, then.
I'd just read something similar from a prostate cancer UK rep.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 6, 2024 2:37:38 GMT
I can't believe the BBC got 3 pages of 'live news' out of 'the king has a kind cancer but we don't know anything more than that' www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-68210644Unfortunately they've now paused their live coverage of the issue, so I don't know how I'll live without that to provide me with the latest information on something they have no information on.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 6, 2024 7:00:17 GMT
Always the same with any big Royal story. Nicholas Witchell stationed outside Buck Pal, saying nothing live on air every 20 mins.
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Post by geefe on Feb 6, 2024 7:10:36 GMT
Sick of hearing about it already
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Post by Rich on Feb 6, 2024 7:13:03 GMT
I want updates every 10 minutes from random well-wishers on the street. More if they're wearing a big Union Jack hat.
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Post by mothercruncher on Feb 6, 2024 7:21:29 GMT
Until we know otherwise I think we should just assume it’s cockcancer and make sure we get that word into any conversation on the matter.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 6, 2024 7:23:34 GMT
That would involve far too many mental images of Charles' cock for my liking.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 6, 2024 7:25:43 GMT
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Post by mothercruncher on Feb 6, 2024 7:27:17 GMT
Phew! I had to wait 27, slightly frantic minutes since waking up.
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Post by X201 on Feb 6, 2024 7:35:49 GMT
Always the same with any big Royal story. Nicholas Witchell stationed outside Buck Pal, saying nothing live on air every 20 mins. No, he must be pissed off because he’s in Hong Kong at the mo, so he’ll be snoring his head off after they kept him up all night commenting via Zoom
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Feb 6, 2024 9:32:02 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68214641🎶🎵You took me by surprise took me by surprise, I must say When you bet me, that money. Well you know I got interviewed by Morgan And made myself look a right sexual organ Yeah you know I got interviewed by Piers Made myself look like I'd nowt between my ears. 🎵🎶
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