UK Politics Thread

Brb joining the Reform party

Yep. Just rip the plaster off already, Rishi. You big fanny.

What Cubby said - Sunak's not going to take his hand out of the cookie jar until the lid slams shut.

That may be true. But if so, it shows yet more spectacular poor politics. Even if they manage to make the policy even more insane and get it off the ground, the majority of voters don't care enough. There are bigger things on their minds.

Just seen that someone from YouGov has tweeted to say that the statement that if Reform didn't stand then Labour wouldn't have a majority comes from the Telegraph and is not the findings of YouGov's poll. Telegraph seem to have taken all Reform voters and added them to the Tory pot, but YouGov's own polling has found that only about 31% of those voting Reform would switch back to Conservatives if they weren't an option.

i guess two things are at play -

(1) tory's hope that things will get better, ignoring the possibility - likelihood - that things could get worse and
(2) the long term interests of the tory party (rip off the plaster, get it over and done with sooner, leave labour holding another year of worsening outlook, blame them for it, win back at next elex) is contrary to individual MPs and the PM's interests (ie. eleven months of power, grift, and helicopter rides is better than three months of power, grift, and helicopter rides) - and the power to call that election is entirely within the hands of the PM

I feel the suggestion that things will get worse for them is wishful thinking. Polling has basically not moved in ages, with Labour being around 15 to 20-points ahead for seemingly forever now. No matter how deranged or incompetent the incumbents have been, that base level of about 25-30% has stuck with the Cons and I can't see anything budging them (if anything, when an election comes nearer, I fully expect polls to narrow, almost no matter what the situation is, as the shy Tories return).

Even if they deserve to be third or even fourth biggest party, they are already at their rock bottom.

agree they're probably polling at the bottom of their range at mo, but that's born of my innate pessimism, parties can and do go extinct, there is nothing particularly special about the tories, and economics and austerity effects are only going to get worse this year

re regicide i can see a significant bunch trying to oust sunak, what i can't see is who would want to take the job knowing they'd be pasted at the election, rather I think most of them are angling to become leader of the opposition after the election and into the following one

Johnson might like one last dance….

i wonder who the shy tories are now tho? in the past a big chunk were already comfortable people voting in their own interests at the expense of those less fortunate, and realising that's not something to shout about - tory economic competence having fucked every income bracket except the ultra rich I'm not sure that vote base exist any more - they'd never vote for a corbyn but they'll vote for a tonty blair-alike

suppose the other shy tories were those who liked everything just as it was in the 1950s but used to be hesitant to say it - i don't think they're so hesitant any more, not so much shy as spittle flecked screaming their politics at every rainbow flag they see

And let's not piss about - it was "only" a fucking global recession that got them into power.

Off the back of a hung parliament.

With Nick Leg.


Even Corbyn ran them close against May and fucking nobody liked him. Tories should be pretty concerned that this is them done, as they know it.

The people that went from anywhere between (20-35) and (30-45) in their time, really won't be interested in them.

hahahaha lee anderson (twat, dick, deputy chairman of Tory party, cunt) has confirmed he'll be voting for nutter amendment to already batshit Rwanda bill so he'll be voting against government line and making rishi sad

Lee Anderson
Majority 5700

If you were wondering

I've actually had to turn it off. Blood is boiling!!!