Lizard
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Post by Lizard on Jan 9, 2024 22:14:32 GMT
I thought lying was the whole point of Musk's Twitter.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 9, 2024 22:37:38 GMT
The Secret Barrister is clearly enjoying himself over the community notes.
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minimatt
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Post by minimatt on Jan 9, 2024 23:05:16 GMT
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Post by Danno on Jan 9, 2024 23:07:09 GMT
I stuck BROs on at least two of these people as a result of their convictions.
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Post by Danno on Jan 9, 2024 23:08:29 GMT
Nah bollocks. All hail Marina, she's basically Frankie Boyle that you can print. |
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 10, 2024 6:02:48 GMT
At least the article will secure him the baby killer vote. I was wavering to be honest but I’m all in now 👍 |
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 10, 2024 6:15:12 GMT
“… not one person has ever even been charged. In a lot of cases, they seem to have been promoted.“
It’s been bubbling away in my consciousness for years but I was light on detail. What an idiot for assuming people would be facing justice for their actions. Doesn’t this scandal just lay bare how money and access to the old boys network mean you’re free of those sort of botherations?
Those in the crosshairs, that were in government, at the Post Office or at Fujitsu have such resources that, even if they’re ever in danger of being spotlighted they can cheerfully bat this down the road and very probably die before ever seeing court.
No heads have rolled and no heads (truly) will either.
I despise aspects of this country at times.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 10, 2024 7:53:54 GMT
I despise aspects of this country at times. I doubt it's any different in most other countries tbh. |
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Post by geefe on Jan 10, 2024 8:23:21 GMT
I do genuinely wonder what would happen if, say, even 5% of the country started taking direct action to the upper crust.
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 10, 2024 8:29:29 GMT
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jan 10, 2024 8:29:57 GMT
What's wrong with the upper crust? I mean I know their baguettes can be a little hard sometimes but it strengthens the jaw muscles.
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Post by geefe on Jan 10, 2024 9:47:16 GMT
I genuinely am baffled by the anti 15 minute city idea. There is no downside to everything you need being 15 minute's walk away.
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Post by askew on Jan 10, 2024 9:50:26 GMT
No, you fool: it means your local council will control your every movement
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 10, 2024 10:21:45 GMT
Being able to walk to the shops is what people in Nazi Germany could do, probably, popping to the local bakery one day will clearly lead to death camps soon after.
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 10, 2024 12:02:18 GMT
No, you fool: it means your local council will control your every movement I live 10 minutes walk from our town centre, I have access to a Waitrose, two cinemas and a train station. In the last 12 months I've put 1500 miles on my car, according to the MOT it had on Monday. How will the petrochemical industry survive?!? |
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Post by gibroon on Jan 10, 2024 12:11:41 GMT
I have 3 pubs, several coffee shops, a co-op, a sainsburys, several restaurants all with in 15 minutes walk. How is my wallet going to survive?
My work is a 15 minute drive each way so at least the petrochemical industry will survive another 10 years.
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Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 10, 2024 12:37:13 GMT
Nah bollocks. All hail Marina, she's basically supertanksii that you can print. ftfy |
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Post by apollo on Jan 10, 2024 12:47:35 GMT
I think I've convinced my parents to vote for anyone else apart from Tories. If people can try with their parents, it might be really hard with some old people but worth a try
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Post by technoish on Jan 10, 2024 14:28:43 GMT
We got rid of our car in south London...
We get around by bicycle (electric cargo bike for kids) - the fastest way to almost anywhere, including during the day to places like Kew Gardens - plus bus / tube to center of town (car not an option). For weekend trips it is cheaper to rent a car. And taxis to airport if needed.
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Post by gibroon on Jan 10, 2024 14:34:58 GMT
That's the thing about cars. They are the most expensive thing you own that you rarely use. Other than commuting, taking kids to school, going for a weekly shop, 90% of the time it just sits there doing nothing. Obviously if you are a travelling salesperson or such like it is different but for the majority, it is a rarely used, expensive paperweight.
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geefe
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Post by geefe on Jan 10, 2024 14:45:22 GMT
I'd get a bike if
A) I only needed to transport myself and not guitars/ other bits
B) It wasn't the deadliest fucking method of travel
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Post by Dougs on Jan 10, 2024 14:51:19 GMT
My niece visited from France at Christmas and borrowed a car from a friend, paying £160 to be insured plus £30 petrol for the week. I am sure she could have got about by taxi for much less. Most of the trips were short distances. I'd bet lots of people could get by like that.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 10, 2024 15:07:22 GMT
Short term hire systems exist but aren't that widespread so far, I can only see that gaining in traction for people who only occasionally need a car rather than having a car sitting outside doing absolutely nothing but cost money in insurance/tax/maintenance etc. This is a decent example of one - www.hiyacar.co.uk/ |
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Post by geefe on Jan 10, 2024 15:12:53 GMT
Link doesn't work.
Currently my car costs about £350 per year before I put petrol in it and MOT. I did try and do the maths once but it still works out better to have the car and not need it, especially outside of an urban area.
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Post by Vortex on Jan 10, 2024 15:29:09 GMT
Link doesn't work. Currently my car costs about £350 per year before I put petrol in it and MOT. Eh? Are you sure? The costs are roughly: Price paid for car divided by years of use, plus insurance, road tax, MOT, servicing, petrol. A £10K car you use for 10 years still costs roughly £1K a year for the purchase and duration of use, say £400 for insurance and road tax, Average of £400-500 per annum for the lifetime of use to average out repairs/wear & tear and petrol for an average of 8-10,000 miles as the average mileage for the country. All of the costs above are being estimated generously at best. It costs a lot more than £350 per year to own a car. |
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Post by knighty on Jan 10, 2024 15:46:05 GMT
To be fair he did say ‘currently’. If you are budgeting a car you’d amortise the costs over 5 years, then anything it does after that is essentially ‘free’.
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Post by brokenkey on Jan 10, 2024 15:47:08 GMT
You need to deduct/add back in the current value of the car to do that calculation properly.
But that's boring. I bought my car outright 12 years ago, I pay £150 for insurance, £180 for tax and £50 for an MOT.
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Vortex
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Post by Vortex on Jan 10, 2024 15:52:36 GMT
You need to deduct/add back in the current value of the car to do that calculation properly. But that's boring. I bought my car outright 12 years ago, I pay £150 for insurance, £180 for tax and £50 for an MOT. Yeah, but who cba doing that for some brief back of fag-packet maffs. I bought my current car in lockdown and paid it outright too, but I would never claim my car costs £350 a year to own, because frankly that's laughable and untrue. I'd tend to view it more as total expenditure over the lifetime of use for a more realistic figure. YMMMV (YourMathematicalMileageMayVary)  |
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Post by otto on Jan 10, 2024 16:02:31 GMT
It's terrific, but then again I am the ultimate centrist dad |
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geefe
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Post by geefe on Jan 10, 2024 16:45:08 GMT
Link doesn't work. Currently my car costs about £350 per year before I put petrol in it and MOT. Eh? Are you sure? The costs are roughly: Price paid for car divided by years of use, plus insurance, road tax, MOT, servicing, petrol. A £10K car you use for 10 years still costs roughly £1K a year for the purchase and duration of use, say £400 for insurance and road tax, Average of £400-500 per annum for the lifetime of use to average out repairs/wear & tear and petrol for an average of 8-10,000 miles as the average mileage for the country. All of the costs above are being estimated generously at best. It costs a lot more than £350 per year to own a car. Well...yeah... that's why I said it costs about £350 a year before MOT and petrol. Insurance is about £200 or so and road tax is about £150. Then I might put petrol in it if I want to go places and the MOT cost will be variable because MOT innit? |
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