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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 11, 2021 9:22:06 GMT
There is a line in one of them along the lines of "The power of the One extends all the way to the source" which I always thought was quite open ended as to whether he's in another Matrix, or the machines simply can't comprehend his existence on such a level that his mere presence fucks with them in real life too.
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Post by Matt A on Sept 11, 2021 9:25:16 GMT
I just watched the first one again, neo dresses like those school shooter kids from Columbine. I only recently learned that this is what made it a 15 rather than 12 certificate (or US PG-13). Because it came out right after Columbine. I watched it with my older two kids, 10yo and 13yo, and honestly, the violence in the first Matrix is no worse than something you'd see in any of the cert-12 Marvel movies. However, I then watched Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions with just the 13yo... and they definitely step up the mature stuff. It's not the sex scenes that bother me (13yo didn't seem bothered by Neo and Trinity humping, she was on her phone). But there's some quite gory bits I'd forgotten that would probably have given the 10yo nightmares. I didn't know it came out after. John Wick as well, the whole gun violence revenge themes make you wonder about US Cultures relationship with guns and whether movies play a part |
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Post by elstoof on Sept 11, 2021 9:29:27 GMT
His power over sentinels in the sequels was a stretch, the fact The One was just a regular guy IRL was what made it interesting. Giving him a Huawei 5G brain chip to scramble robots and see fiery “code” with his eyes closed was the shittiest part of the sequels
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Post by hedben on Sept 11, 2021 9:35:03 GMT
Yeah, my daughter asked me to explain the third film to her after it finished, and I'd read the Wikipedia synopsis in preparation for this entirely predictable moment - but I still couldn't do it. Just had to go with Matrix-in-a-matrix maybe.
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Post by elstoof on Sept 11, 2021 9:41:17 GMT
I’d rather they explain the sentinels blowing up as an elaborate hoax by the machines to make him believe he was even more powerful
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Post by simple on Sept 11, 2021 9:55:08 GMT
His power over sentinels in the sequels was a stretch, the fact The One was just a regular guy IRL was what made it interesting. Giving him a Huawei 5G brain chip to scramble robots and see fiery “code” with his eyes closed was the shittiest part of the sequels I wasn’t able to finish Revolutions before bed last night but across the two and half movies so far the moments it leans hardest into the messianic stuff tend to be among the weakest. |
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Sept 11, 2021 10:06:55 GMT
I mean, we already know it isn’t given you see Neo with burnt out eyes from Revolutions in the trailer itself. I missed that this is now generally seen as a reboot / whatever you call it when you pretend the shit boys never happened. Great news! |
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 11, 2021 10:44:36 GMT
There is a line in one of them along the lines of "The power of the One extends all the way to the source" which I always thought was quite open ended as to whether he's in another Matrix, or the machines simply can't comprehend his existence on such a level that his mere presence fucks with them in real life too. Part of me wonders if this is actually set in the source rather than a matrix but probably not. They clearly aren't ignoring the sequels and they shouldn't. I think they are going to be doing everything they can to avoid stuff leaking and give out some false information. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 11, 2021 10:53:20 GMT
His power over sentinels in the sequels was a stretch, the fact The One was just a regular guy IRL was what made it interesting. Giving him a Huawei 5G brain chip to scramble robots and see fiery “code” with his eyes closed was the shittiest part of the sequels It’s not a huge stretch to think all the implants they put in them contained WiFi and he gained the ability to install the drivers. The machines all communicated wireless with each other and by that point he’d started to blur that line. |
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Post by Gruf on Sept 11, 2021 11:03:23 GMT
I got lucky, I was way out of it for whatever reason around the time of the original Matrix so had absolutely zero idea what I was about to see on on my first viewing in a almost empty screening on a wet Tuesday. Obviously, blown away, and amazingly it still holds up till this day.
Caught the last trailer, but that is it for me, trying to shut myself off from anything else until I watch it.
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Post by elstoof on Sept 11, 2021 11:15:10 GMT
His power over sentinels in the sequels was a stretch, the fact The One was just a regular guy IRL was what made it interesting. Giving him a Huawei 5G brain chip to scramble robots and see fiery “code” with his eyes closed was the shittiest part of the sequels It’s not a huge stretch to think all the implants they put in them contained WiFi and he gained the ability to install the drivers. The machines all communicated wireless with each other and by that point he’d started to blur that line. Falls apart a bit when he can “see” agent smith just before he smacks bane’s head off after dodging him without any eyes. It’s just a bit of a shitty mcguffin in any case, why would they put WiFi in a human thats supposed to be hardwired for life |
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Post by 😎 on Sept 11, 2021 13:48:17 GMT
If you want the internal lore explanation it’s’s because Neo is a program/user hybrid and they showed several times that programs can exist outside of The Matrix
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Post by anephric on Sept 11, 2021 15:56:54 GMT
The programs existing outside of the matrix was equally guff though, particularly Smith. They should have gone down the 'they're in another matrix outside of the matrix' but I guess that would've baked everyone's noodle.
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Post by Danno on Sept 11, 2021 16:34:33 GMT
Got the place to myself, so watching 2. If I'm reasonably entertained I might have another bash at 3.
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Post by elstoof on Sept 11, 2021 16:39:45 GMT
The biggest problem I had with both sequels is I just don’t see any need to give a fuck about Zion. Most of 3 is a shitty alien war movie except they haven’t blown up the Capitol, it’s just a cave, and none of the characters I’ve invested in are even there anyway. Let it fall, so what
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Post by simple on Sept 11, 2021 17:52:01 GMT
Yeah Zion almost feels like its taking place in another film or tv show. Can’t fault the ambition but trying to fit a season’s worth of tv into one film (Reloaded) makes it hard to care about all the new characters before the feature length final battle in the next film.
That said they come very close.
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 11, 2021 19:03:42 GMT
Anyone watch The Animatrix stuff? Couple good episodes.Especially liked The Second Renaissance episodes and Detective Story
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Post by simple on Sept 11, 2021 19:23:03 GMT
Not since it first came out. Surprised Netflix didn’t pick it up with the movies.
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Post by 😎 on Sept 11, 2021 19:29:01 GMT
Animatrix was alright, though I don’t think we really needed the backstory about how the war started, it ultimately added nothing to the main storyline and was a bit Prometheus in its answering questions no one asked. Flight of the Osiris was just kind of cringy nonsense (the lingering shot of a CG ass was a little neckbeard even for then) that could have been a couple of lines in Reloaded, but some of the other shorts were visually nice.
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Post by djronz on Sept 11, 2021 19:51:52 GMT
I think that they put neo back in matrix, to make him happier they made him a film star called keanu reeves who stars in a film called the matrix.
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Post by hedben on Sept 12, 2021 7:56:22 GMT
I'd never seen this before
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Post by simple on Sept 12, 2021 14:00:23 GMT
After watching the trilogy over the last few days I think the new one is probably the machines plugging Neo and Trinity’s bodies into the new Matrix and then their memories returning and then trying to escape to return to Zion.
Which feels unambitious but thats kind of what the trailer shows or at least in as many callbacks as it has.
I don’t know if I prefer this to Matrices all the way down Inception-style or not.
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Post by aubergine on Sept 12, 2021 14:02:30 GMT
I'd never seen this before I couldn’t stop laughing for a minute. |
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Post by Immaterial on Sept 13, 2021 7:26:22 GMT
Still the trailer highlight for me.  |
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Post by Gl3n on Sept 13, 2021 8:29:18 GMT
Anyone watch The Animatrix stuff? Couple good episodes.Especially liked The Second Renaissance episodes and Detective Story Re-watched the Second Renaissance episodes after you posted this yesterday.
Shat me up. Properly horrifying stuff. The way those chaps get ripped out of them robots, sheesh. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 13, 2021 9:22:36 GMT
Yep. I also find the POV shot of the humans head being crushed pretty gruesome
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Post by baihu1983 on Dec 1, 2021 16:57:46 GMT
Playing into the movie within a movie stuff.
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Post by beastmaster on Dec 1, 2021 21:23:32 GMT
Going to see the original in 4DX on Sunday. Cannot bloody wait.
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Post by 😎 on Dec 1, 2021 21:24:56 GMT
Full 4dx water spray for the Zion rave scene.
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Post by Lukus on Dec 1, 2021 21:51:41 GMT
That's not water...
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