|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 18, 2024 10:45:04 GMT
It'll possibly have similar pricing to what happened when the PS4 Pro came out, it comes out for the PS5 launch price. However that also had the PS4 have some permanent price cuts before then while we just keep getting the temporary PS5 ones every few weeks so who really knows. One thing I can guarantee though, Tesco Direct won't accidentally misprice the PS5 Pro like they did the PS4 Pro when they put it on their website at £299.99 rather than £349.99 that I snagged as soon as it went live, Tesco Direct doesn't exist any more. The pricing is going to a weird one seeing as it's holiday 2024 for a release and as you say PS4 had price cuts way before the Pro came out and they just keep increasing the price of the PS5. Unless they are arrogant Sony of the bad old days and just say get a second job if you want a PS5 Pro. |
|
|
|
Post by Whizzo on Mar 18, 2024 10:45:05 GMT
Very happy to say my launch PS5 has been so quiet I sometimes don't realise it's on.
|
|
|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 18, 2024 10:45:43 GMT
Ecosse lives in a padded room to this day due to the coil whine.
|
|
|
|
Post by starchildhypocrethes on Mar 18, 2024 10:49:10 GMT
I have officially reached the point in my life where I no longer have any idea what console specs mean.
I’m sure it’s great.
|
|
|
|
Post by LegendaryApe on Mar 18, 2024 10:50:41 GMT
Ecosse lives in a padded room to this day due to the coil whine. imagine when they bring him to the canteen for his meals, and him questioning the guy behind the counter where the ingredients are from |
|
|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 18, 2024 10:53:43 GMT
IS MSG IN THIS?!
TELL ME!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by LegendaryApe on Mar 18, 2024 10:56:30 GMT
IS MSG IN THIS?! TELL ME!!! The sound of this *pours slop from bowl onto tray* is off to me. Clearly, this mystery meat IS FROM TINS |
|
|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 18, 2024 10:57:44 GMT
I have officially reached the point in my life where I no longer have any idea what console specs mean. I’m sure it’s great. There are 45% more rays. More rays going into your eyes. Possibly your bumhole. |
|
|
|
Post by zisssou on Mar 18, 2024 11:01:16 GMT
Tifa's boobs will look even more veiny.
|
|
Gruf
Junior Member
Even more taciturn than my name suggests
Posts: 1,610
Member is Online
|
Post by Gruf on Mar 18, 2024 11:20:02 GMT
insider-gaming.com/ps5-pro-specs-2024/PS5 Pro leaks Coupled with the rumour that the CPU and RAM are barely improved, the extra Ray-tracing capabilities and PSSR have to be very good to produce noticably different results to the base PS5. As someone who doesn't have a PS5 I'd be tempted to get it if it's less than £500 on release. Its Sony, more likely £799 or something. You know, for such a "premium" product It has PRO in its name and everything after all |
|
|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 18, 2024 11:36:50 GMT
Isn't 600 the mental cap for people, as in how much they would be willing to pay? I say this because a PS5 in Europe is like 550 euros I think.
|
|
|
|
Post by paulyboy81 on Mar 18, 2024 11:39:15 GMT
Rat tracing abilities aside those specs are considerably more modest than I was expecting to be honest. Basic rasterisation performance increase is actually less than half what the PS4 Pro managed over the base model, in percentages at least.
Shouldn't be surprised mind you, Sony are already on record as saying that cost reducing the base PS5 is proving tricky so a genuine two to three times leap (or even 5x in the case of the One X) in pure GPU grunt over the base model would likely cost the earth.
Not that this will be cheap mind you, £549-£599 I reckon. Possibly £600+ if the base model prices remain static.
|
|
LFace
New Member
Posts: 311
|
Post by LFace on Mar 18, 2024 11:47:59 GMT
I jumped on the PS4 Pro the moment I got a 4k TV and base PS4 looked shit on it.
PS5 Pro? Meh. I'm all about frame rate this gen. Slightly prettier visuals when stood still means fuck all when the image gives migraine due to running at piss poor frame rate during movement.
I flat out refuse to play any game at 30fps anymore. Performance with VRR that hits 50-60 FPS is just peachy for me.
Certain games releasing on current gen locked at 30 max will not hit 60 on the Pro as chances are they are CPU bound due to shitty optimisation (looking at you Gotham Knights).
Talks are that Dragons Dogma 2 is the same. Won't be touching that with a shitty stick if that has no 60 mode.
|
|
|
|
Post by Vandelay on Mar 18, 2024 11:49:29 GMT
Rat tracing abilities aside... Looking forward to seeing the new A Plague Tale on this thing. |
|
Bongo Heracles
Junior Member
Technically illegal to ride on public land
Posts: 4,641
|
Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 18, 2024 11:56:12 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Trowel 🏴 on Mar 18, 2024 12:12:03 GMT
I have officially reached the point in my life where I no longer have any idea what console specs mean. I’m sure it’s great. I miss the days of being able to just quote the size of the colour palette: ST 512 vs Amiga 4096 etc. |
|
|
|
Post by Whizzo on Mar 18, 2024 12:15:24 GMT
The Amiga had HAM so was obviously superior to the ST as it didn't, HAM isn't bacon but it's close.
|
|
|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 18, 2024 13:06:00 GMT
BLAST PROCESSING
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 15:33:58 GMT
33 TFLOPS sounds crazy coming from 10. That seems more like a new console generation than a Pro upgrade.
|
|
|
|
Post by uiruki on Mar 18, 2024 15:44:49 GMT
Put alongside the fact they say rendering is only 45% faster suggests (if these figures are accurate) that AMD have worked out a different way to calculate FLOPS in the same way that nvidia did not so long ago which basically doubled all their numbers.
|
|
|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 18, 2024 15:50:00 GMT
33 TFLOPS sounds crazy coming from 10. That seems more like a new console generation than a Pro upgrade. Not really, it's still the same CPU and the same amount of memory this is just pure resolution increase if nothing else. |
|
|
|
Post by paulyboy81 on Mar 18, 2024 16:01:08 GMT
Along with various architecture changes and the like, Nvidia, AMD and the industry in general have been fannying around with how TFLOPS are reported for a while now. The 33 being reported here are not the same as the 10 on the base model. The GPU is only about half as powerful again, not the 3x figure the 33 headline would have you believe.
The general brief here looks to have been enough extra grunt to lift base resolutions on more demanding games to a point where the machine learning shenanigans can do a decent job reconstructing.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 16:08:37 GMT
As long as Jedi Survivor stops looking like 240p the moment you move the camera it’s a win, in my book.
|
|
|
|
Post by harrypalmer on Mar 18, 2024 16:11:45 GMT
Does it have an EMOTION ENGINE?
|
|
|
|
Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 18, 2024 16:13:16 GMT
Along with various architecture changes and the like, Nvidia, AMD and the industry in general have been fannying around with how TFLOPS are reported for a while now. The 33 being reported here are not the same as the 10 on the base model. The GPU is only about half as powerful again, not the 3x figure the 33 headline would have you believe. The general brief here looks to have been enough extra grunt to lift base resolutions on more demanding games to a point where the machine learning shenanigans can do a decent job reconstructing. Indeed people are commenting that it's going to allow for 4k30 games to go to 60. It ain't. A CPU limited game is still going to be CPU limited. At the least the improvement in ray tracing could hopefully lead to more than just RT shadows being the choice. |
|
Gruf
Junior Member
Even more taciturn than my name suggests
Posts: 1,610
Member is Online
|
Post by Gruf on Mar 18, 2024 16:14:06 GMT
Does it have an EMOTION ENGINE? Yes, but only initially when you hand over the wad of money they are asking for it |
|
|
|
Post by damagedinc on Mar 18, 2024 16:20:00 GMT
Kind of makes sense really, release the new shiny with minor updates. Put the slim at around 350/380 permanently and offer new shiny for the same cost as the original RRP? 480ish?
Talks of a 600 quid console just ain't going to happen by sounds of it.
Won't piss off the early adopters too much, people on the fence have a choice and people that want the next new thing can trade in old consoles for it but it isn't a must have.
|
|
|
|
Post by Resident Knievel on Mar 18, 2024 16:46:55 GMT
33 TFLOPS sounds crazy coming from 10. That seems more like a new console generation than a Pro upgrade. Different architectures so the tflops numbers aren't comparable, the gpu in the PS5 has more in common with the one in the PS4 than the PS5 Pro. The 45% more rendering number gives a better idea of the power difference. |
|
|
|
Post by clemfandango on Mar 19, 2024 13:33:45 GMT
I was considering this then spotted it still only has the shitty 1TB hard drive which equates to around 700GB after the PS5 has sucked a frankly absurd amount of it for the UI etc.
Would it really have been that costly to stick a 2TB drive in it?
Fuck Sony
|
|
|
|
Post by dfunked on Mar 19, 2024 13:39:14 GMT
Yeah, seemed like an odd move for a pro model.
In fairness mine has a 1TB SSD in there and both drives are only half full, so I could probably cope with just the default storage if it's not as stingy as the launch console's 825GB before the overhead.
Isn't it more like under 700GB for the launch model and 800GB+ for the slim?
|
|
