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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 14, 2024 13:42:08 GMT
It does feel the insane length of time to actually make games now has really fucked the way generations work. You think about previous gens and how games a studio could pump quite a few titles, now you'd be lucky to get one out of them, case in point Rocksteady missing most of the last generation and a good chunk of this one.
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Post by kal on Feb 14, 2024 13:42:10 GMT
We’re shifted to an incremental hardware continuous service model without it being somehow officially recognised. But the era of generations is now over.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Feb 14, 2024 13:47:20 GMT
Has anyone used the activity cards on the home screen, ever?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 14, 2024 13:49:16 GMT
Has anyone used the activity cards on the home screen, ever? Once. By mistake. |
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Post by Dougs on Feb 14, 2024 13:50:45 GMT
They're not necessarily wrong though - just stating the obvious that we're probably 3-4 years away from the ps6 etc.
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Post by Vandelay on Feb 14, 2024 13:52:29 GMT
I guess it depends on what they mean by "entering latter stage". The sounds like it is coming to an end in a year or two, which would mean the PS5 generation has only lasted 4-5 years. Further down though it mentions going into the second half of the gen. That would mean another 3.5 to 4 years. A 7-8 year gen would be pretty normal length and would still give plenty of time for gen defining releases.
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Post by gibroon on Feb 14, 2024 13:56:22 GMT
I'm hoping Sony at least squeeze a ground up PS5 game of God of War. Felt the sequel was hamstrung a bit by keeping it playable for PS4. Returnal is really good and did use the haptics pretty well on the controller but I am struggling to think of anything ground breaking other than visually, like Ratchet and Clank.
Elden Ring but that is also PS4.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 14, 2024 13:58:34 GMT
I'm still waiting for Naughty Dog in that regard to give us something.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 14, 2024 13:58:48 GMT
I guess it depends on what they mean by "entering latter stage". The sounds like it is coming to an end in a year or two, which would mean the PS5 generation has only lasted 4-5 years. Further down though it mentions going into the second half of the gen. That would mean another 3.5 to 4 years. A 7-8 year gen would be pretty normal length and would still give plenty of time for gen defining releases. Exactly that - it's the headline that makes it sounds worse than it is. Just saying "we're 3-4 years in and now into the second half" isn't remotely controversial imo |
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Post by Derblington on Feb 14, 2024 14:01:28 GMT
GTA6 is on the way.
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Post by gibroon on Feb 14, 2024 14:11:25 GMT
I'm still waiting for Naughty Dog in that regard to give us something. That would be great but also hope it is not Last of Us. Playing the second part again and although it is great, it's also just so grim there is only so much you can stomach. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2024 15:14:54 GMT
Beam that misery straight into my eyeballs with all the shinies. Can't wait for part 3.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2024 15:15:16 GMT
I do want them to make a Blade Runner style Scifi game though.
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Post by zisssou on Feb 14, 2024 15:18:31 GMT
I do want them to make a Blade Runner style Scifi game though. We're getting Blade Runner 2033: Labyrinth this year I think. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 14, 2024 15:32:17 GMT
I'm still waiting for Naughty Dog in that regard to give us something. That would be great but also hope it is not Last of Us. Playing the second part again and although it is great, it's also just so grim there is only so much you can stomach. I believe it's their fantasy game that has a picture of the character in Last of Us 2, it's a woman with a Pegasus. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 14, 2024 15:32:55 GMT
The potential of Astro's Playroom never really got matched again. A few games had the odd cool gimmick section but nothing anywhere as near transformative as Astro was. The problem is people really don’t care about or even actively dislike that stuff outside of tech demos. I’d be more than happy for all the haptics to vanish if the pads were cheaper. I don’t recoil in disgust when I pick up my Xbox pad. |
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 14, 2024 16:24:01 GMT
I'm pretty sure Demon's Souls and Returnal are the only PS5 games I've bought that didn't come to PS4 as well. I agree that this generation has been a big load of nothing so far, but I'm not sure that all this "end of the PS5 era" stuff is 100% justified. The quote IGN and others are using was as follows:
Looking ahead to when, exactly? And does "latter stage" mean late stage, or just the second half of the current console generation?
I haven't seen IGN (or anyone else) get clarification from Sony, but they've run with their clickbait articles all the same - maybe the burgeoning outrage is justified, or perhaps IGN and co. are getting us riled up over nothing.
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 14, 2024 16:30:56 GMT
"Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle."
Literally means "we're approaching the half way point".
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 14, 2024 16:37:44 GMT
Agreed, but comments sections still seem to be full of vitriol from those who think "latter" = "late."
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 14, 2024 17:50:23 GMT
Agreed, but comments sections still seem to be full of vitriol from those who think "latter" = "late." For some reason my brain read latter as latte. |
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Post by damagedinc on Feb 14, 2024 17:58:14 GMT
"Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle." Literally means "we're approaching the half way point". Pretty sure in this context it's meant as nearer the end of something? I am shit at English though |
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 14, 2024 18:11:30 GMT
Yeah usually when companies talk like that they are gearing up for what's next.
Starting to think the Pro has been canned.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Feb 14, 2024 18:15:14 GMT
Pretty sure I'm in the latter stage of my life cycle.
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 14, 2024 18:26:11 GMT
I guess it's not impossible, but I'll be truly stupefied if it turns out that Sony have just announced the imminent sunsetting of the PS5.
- The console is less than 3.5 years old. - For most of that time, it was somewhere between 'very hard' and 'bloody impossible' to buy without going to a scalper. - Hardly any first-party PS5 games *haven't* been cross-gen with PS4, leaving the PS5's potential largely untapped. - Re third-party titles, see above.
- The 'slim' version has only just launched. - The 'pro' version seemed like a dead cert until, like, this afternoon.
I know a lot of PS fanboys have given themselves carpal tunnel syndrome over the past week, so vigorously have they been jerking off to the 'Xbox games coming to PlayStation' rumours, but Sony canning the PS5 would be orders of magnitude worse than Microsoft giving up on exclusives.
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Post by kal on Feb 14, 2024 21:11:10 GMT
"Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle." Literally means "we're approaching the half way point". It could mean that. It doesn’t literally mean that. |
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 15, 2024 9:36:36 GMT
I think it does literally mean that... I could be wrong, and I know arguing semantics is a fools errand, but I just happen to fall into that category: "Latter stage", being singular, implies there are two stages, a former and a latter, meaning the crossover between the two is the half way point. Ergo "entering the latter stage" should mean "we're approaching the half way point" / "we're still technically in the former stage".
"Latter stages" would more directly imply latter in the sense of "towards the end" because there being multiple stages means that the more stages there are, the more towards the end the latter one is.
Suffice to say there is room for interpretation or misuse of the phrase so I certainly agree it was not a great choice of words, if they merely meant what I think they meant
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Feb 15, 2024 10:22:45 GMT
Logically speaking we are in the latter part even if COVID has made it feel a bit sooner than normal. Whatever big exclusives do come to PS5 from 2025 onwards you would expect to be the last this gen from respective studios.
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 15, 2024 10:37:22 GMT
Yeah. I think considering the normal year or two of continued releases into the next generation, 3.5 years being around the half way point of the console's life makes sense. Or to put it another way, PS5 is entering the latter stage of its life cycle  |
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 15, 2024 10:44:07 GMT
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Feb 15, 2024 16:29:04 GMT
It's more that there's barely been any amazing games that are for this gen only. Look at the PS4 - Bloodborne, Last of Us 2, Persona 5, God of War, RDR2, Witcher 3 etc. Where are the equivalents for this gen? The only ones on my list are Street Fighter 6, Forza Horizon 5 and Baldur's Gate 3. Persona 5 was a PS3 game with a day 1 PS4 port... And we actually got a localised PS3 version too. |
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