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Post by dfunked on Sept 14, 2022 13:12:20 GMT
That does sound pretty cool. I'm even tempted to bite after avoiding VR up until now.
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Post by mothercruncher on Sept 14, 2022 13:15:28 GMT
A quick PSA: Inscryption is now out on PS5 (and PS4), albeit in digital-only form for the time being. This looks like the perfect sausage to fill my flask. But, I’m also conscious that, as soon as I buy it it’ll turn up on Gamepass or Sony Plus thing, apparently it’s the law.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 13:19:55 GMT
No way is that PSVR2 coming in at under £600
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Post by RumMonkey on Sept 14, 2022 13:47:37 GMT
That will make it harder to convince my wife I need a new shiny.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 14, 2022 14:10:09 GMT
Looking forward to using it for a week and it then joining my PSVR1 behind the TV in its box.
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Post by kal on Sept 14, 2022 14:25:35 GMT
Surely it can’t be more than an actual PS5?
I think they’ll do everything they can to get it under £500, perhaps subsidising it. I reckon £475 at release.
(I realise that’s still more than a PS5 so perhaps even less).
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Post by dogbot on Sept 14, 2022 14:29:59 GMT
Looking forward to using it for a week and it then joining my PSVR1 behind the TV in its box. I really enjoyed it when it was new and shiny (particularly Super Hot and Blasters of the Universe) and it remains the only device I've ever got my Mrs to play games with me on. Since we've moved, I've had no thought of getting it out of the cupboard it resides in, though. I probably should.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 14:37:54 GMT
Surely it can’t be more than an actual PS5? I think they’ll do everything they can to get it under £500, perhaps subsidising it. I reckon £475 at release. (I realise that’s still more than a PS5 so perhaps even less). Last one was something like 400 on release wasn't it? This is coming at a crazy inflation time with hugely more expensive tech and two really expensive looking controllers where the original had none. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's around the 500 mark.
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Post by paulyboy81 on Sept 14, 2022 14:40:56 GMT
I honestly wouldn't like to say where they'll pitch it price wise, certainly won't be £349 like the last one though.
£399-£429 maybe? Lord knows. They can't go north of £500 surely?
Enjoyed my original PSVR but sold it after a while. Lots of experiences and curiosities to sample but always felt there was very little in the way of actual proper games like Resi 7 to sink your teeth into, coupled with the obligatory backlog it just wasn't getting used.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 14:45:19 GMT
Main reason for not using it now is the fuck on setting it up. Just being able to plug this in without fucking about with the cameras and stuff will help massively. And the extra power should make converting full games a lot easier. If the can get GT7 ready for launch I'll be all over it.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 14, 2022 14:48:40 GMT
Any chance I'll just be able to pre order one or are we looking at another round of 'Log into a queue, pray you're not 138,000 in the line, pray to Ganesh and make sure you're having a shit while trying'.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 14, 2022 14:51:11 GMT
I still can't believe that I started watching the PS5 showcase and thought "fuck this, I'm going to bed!"
Woke up the next morning and pre-ordered a PS5 on the second place I tried in the space of 5 minutes.
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Post by kal on Sept 14, 2022 14:51:53 GMT
Surely it can’t be more than an actual PS5? I think they’ll do everything they can to get it under £500, perhaps subsidising it. I reckon £475 at release. (I realise that’s still more than a PS5 so perhaps even less). Last one was something like 400 on release wasn't it? This is coming at a crazy inflation time with hugely more expensive tech and two really expensive looking controllers where the original had none. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's around the 500 mark. It doesn’t necessarily work that way. PS3 original RRP was higher than the PS4 one. The pricing model will be based on research into how much people will be able to pay for it, and again, potentially subsidised if they think they can make more from selling software than hardware. Who knows. It’s a niche accessory so perhaps it will be very expensive. But again, the real money is made on the tail of these things, and the more people that have them, the more games will be made for it, and the more money everyone makes.
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 14, 2022 15:07:30 GMT
Nice to hear that psvs2 sounds like a big step up. What I really want to know though (and likely won't know until after release) is if it will be a simple process to play PC VR with it. I'm hoping it can be a replacement for my old Vive.
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Post by RumMonkey on Sept 14, 2022 15:13:40 GMT
I really want one, never having a VR set up before. But my worry is it will be a gimmick like Kinect and Move and will be mostly party games and shovelware. Just hope they put some real effort into the games for it.
Expensive bit of kit to gather dust.
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Post by aubergine on Sept 14, 2022 15:22:18 GMT
Last one was something like 400 on release wasn't it? This is coming at a crazy inflation time with hugely more expensive tech and two really expensive looking controllers where the original had none. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's around the 500 mark. It doesn’t necessarily work that way. PS3 original RRP was higher than the PS4 one. The pricing model will be based on research into how much people will be able to pay for it, and again, potentially subsidised if they think they can make more from selling software than hardware. Who knows. It’s a niche accessory so perhaps it will be very expensive. But again, the real money is made on the tail of these things, and the more people that have them, the more games will be made for it, and the more money everyone makes. I don’t really agree with this. The cost to manufacture the PS3 was off the planet, and even at the high price was being sold at a massive loss. There wasn’t much more to it than Ken Kutaragi’s hubris. He wanted to make a premium unit and I recall him suggesting people would be happy to take a second job to pay for one. The PS4 was more sensibly designed towards what the market would actually stand for vs a sane buy-in for the manufacturer, then put out at a very attractive price to fuck with Microsoft, who had further fucked THEMSELVES by going all in on the very expensive Kinect after finding their own hubristic fool in Don Mattrick. You are correct that they will do research on how to price it, but they would have started with a target price while designing it, which guides on components used and so on. I’m not sure what the psvr launched at, looks like it’s $400-$500 currently in Australia. I’d expect the new one to be at least AU$600 at launch. PS5 launched at $750, I think it’s $800 now. Supply has constrained the install base of PS5, they may well calculate that pricing the (very attractive) new psvr unit very high at launch will capture the very die-hard enthusiasts and it can be more… competitively?… priced later once there’s more demand. Given the main PSVR2 competitor is going to be PSVR1, its going to be interesting how PlayStation owners respond. I skipped psvr (it looks shit tbh) but this new one definitely has me attention. Maybe there’s more people like me around than Sony realise.
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Post by nemesis on Sept 14, 2022 15:30:34 GMT
Looking forward to using it for a week and it then joining my PSVR1 behind the TV in its box. I really enjoyed it when it was new and shiny (particularly Super Hot and Blasters of the Universe) and it remains the only device I've ever got my Mrs to play games with me on. Since we've moved, I've had no thought of getting it out of the cupboard it resides in, though. I probably should. Yeah don’t leave her in there too long; the smell will be something else.
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Post by Gruf on Sept 14, 2022 15:31:16 GMT
I must be missing something spectacular about the new God of War controller. I think it looks bang average, but the trailer comments talk like it’s the second coming of our lord and savour. Calm down! Playstation "special" controllers ain't ever that special. Compared to the MS ones that they have released. That upcoming Elite one looks ok, but fully expect it to be near £200 cause Sony are dicks these days
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Post by theguy on Sept 14, 2022 17:58:06 GMT
I really want one, never having a VR set up before. But my worry is it will be a gimmick like Kinect and Move and will be mostly party games and shovelware. Just hope they put some real effort into the games for it. Expensive bit of kit to gather dust. I'm in the same boat really. I actually told myself that I'll skip PSVR1 and just get VR2 when it launches, but reading the pricing speculation it's finally hit me it's a bit bloody steep
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Post by kal on Sept 14, 2022 18:44:19 GMT
It doesn’t necessarily work that way. PS3 original RRP was higher than the PS4 one. The pricing model will be based on research into how much people will be able to pay for it, and again, potentially subsidised if they think they can make more from selling software than hardware. Who knows. It’s a niche accessory so perhaps it will be very expensive. But again, the real money is made on the tail of these things, and the more people that have them, the more games will be made for it, and the more money everyone makes. I don’t really agree with this. The cost to manufacture the PS3 was off the planet, and even at the high price was being sold at a massive loss. There wasn’t much more to it than Ken Kutaragi’s hubris. He wanted to make a premium unit and I recall him suggesting people would be happy to take a second job to pay for one. The PS4 was more sensibly designed towards what the market would actually stand for vs a sane buy-in for the manufacturer, then put out at a very attractive price to fuck with Microsoft, who had further fucked THEMSELVES by going all in on the very expensive Kinect after finding their own hubristic fool in Don Mattrick. You are correct that they will do research on how to price it, but they would have started with a target price while designing it, which guides on components used and so on. I’m not sure what the psvr launched at, looks like it’s $400-$500 currently in Australia. I’d expect the new one to be at least AU$600 at launch. PS5 launched at $750, I think it’s $800 now. Supply has constrained the install base of PS5, they may well calculate that pricing the (very attractive) new psvr unit very high at launch will capture the very die-hard enthusiasts and it can be more… competitively?… priced later once there’s more demand. Given the main PSVR2 competitor is going to be PSVR1, its going to be interesting how PlayStation owners respond. I skipped psvr (it looks shit tbh) but this new one definitely has me attention. Maybe there’s more people like me around than Sony realise. You say you don’t agree, and then at great length pretty much said exactly what I said, some “akshurley” re the PS3 aside.
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Post by kal on Sept 14, 2022 18:44:29 GMT
It doesn’t necessarily work that way. PS3 original RRP was higher than the PS4 one. The pricing model will be based on research into how much people will be able to pay for it, and again, potentially subsidised if they think they can make more from selling software than hardware. Who knows. It’s a niche accessory so perhaps it will be very expensive. But again, the real money is made on the tail of these things, and the more people that have them, the more games will be made for it, and the more money everyone makes. I don’t really agree with this. The cost to manufacture the PS3 was off the planet, and even at the high price was being sold at a massive loss. There wasn’t much more to it than Ken Kutaragi’s hubris. He wanted to make a premium unit and I recall him suggesting people would be happy to take a second job to pay for one. The PS4 was more sensibly designed towards what the market would actually stand for vs a sane buy-in for the manufacturer, then put out at a very attractive price to fuck with Microsoft, who had further fucked THEMSELVES by going all in on the very expensive Kinect after finding their own hubristic fool in Don Mattrick. You are correct that they will do research on how to price it, but they would have started with a target price while designing it, which guides on components used and so on. I’m not sure what the psvr launched at, looks like it’s $400-$500 currently in Australia. I’d expect the new one to be at least AU$600 at launch. PS5 launched at $750, I think it’s $800 now. Supply has constrained the install base of PS5, they may well calculate that pricing the (very attractive) new psvr unit very high at launch will capture the very die-hard enthusiasts and it can be more… competitively?… priced later once there’s more demand. Given the main PSVR2 competitor is going to be PSVR1, its going to be interesting how PlayStation owners respond. I skipped psvr (it looks shit tbh) but this new one definitely has me attention. Maybe there’s more people like me around than Sony realise. You say you don’t agree, and then at great length pretty much said exactly what I said, some “akshurley” re the PS3 aside.
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Post by stuz359 on Sept 14, 2022 20:47:35 GMT
I really like the look of PSVR 2, but I wear glasses and am short sighted (much like the governments energy policy, am I right?). So, how does it work for me?
Are the screens so close you don't need to wear glasses to use it? Can glasses be used comfortably with the tech? Anyone who has any insight giving me an idea would be most appreciated, before I drop the cash on it. Any coverage of the hardware so far has completely failed to mention this issue (potential issue, might be nothing).
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Post by mcgeeza on Sept 14, 2022 21:14:48 GMT
PSVR worked great with glasses as long as you’re not Christopher Biggins. Hopefully 2 will be the same.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 14, 2022 21:16:02 GMT
I really like the look of PSVR 2, but I wear glasses and am short sighted (much like the governments energy policy, am I right?). So, how does it work for me? Are the screens so close you don't need to wear glasses to use it? Can glasses be used comfortably with the tech? Anyone who has any insight giving me an idea would be most appreciated, before I drop the cash on it. Any coverage of the hardware so far has completely failed to mention this issue (potential issue, might be nothing). I use glasses and good vr units have comfort settings where it takes into account glasses so it's not pushing them into your eyes. Like the Valve Index, I would imagine Sony would have the same usability especially for the high price they will blatantly charge for it.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 14, 2022 21:38:02 GMT
The boy still gets the PSVR out at least every week, especially with friends around. He's put lots of hours into Beat Saber. The resolution is shite and average tracking but still decent enough experience. He's all over this but he'll be waiting a while if it's £500...
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 14, 2022 23:30:59 GMT
If they put gt7 on that new psvr I don’t get what it costs, I’ll be buying it
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Post by UncleLou on Sept 15, 2022 11:06:49 GMT
Looking forward to using it for a week and it then joining my PSVR1 behind the TV in its box. Heh. Damn. Yeah. The biggest problem for me was that some of the most impressive games/demos came pretty early in PSVR's lifetime - be it Batman, Astro Bot, PSVR Worlds, Resident Evil - few of the games that followed matched these, at least on a technical level.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 15, 2022 12:42:27 GMT
If they put gt7 on that new psvr I don’t get what it costs, I’ll be buying it A reliable GT7 dataminer discovered the VR flag that had been patched out a few updates ago was re-added recently so it's certainly hinting at support for it. Can't see it not being full support either, which is handy, as just like Wipeout I expect to be a far better driver in VR than I am flat. Easily being able to look into corners makes a huge difference. Even the limited support in GTS was pretty incredible for immersion just a shame it was only time trial and player vs 1 AI when racing.
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Post by Ulythium on Sept 16, 2022 16:36:05 GMT
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Sept 16, 2022 19:53:05 GMT
With the talk of psvr 2 I actually dug out my quest this evening. Sadly think I only ever played Vader, beat sabre and Superhot (which is amazing) before it collected dust.
Downloaded Journey of the gods and straight away it reminds you how cool Vr can be. Think if I use it semi regularly I might consider getting the PSVR2. Mainly because of the Resi games. But yeah don’t want another expensive paper weight. Kind of surprised how little sword and shield games there are. Obviously these devs are youngs uns and never saw knightmare. Fools! But yeah hopefully should use it more.
Actually moved my living room around since I last used it and now have more space to use it so should be easier to set up and just play and not faff around.
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