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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 11:42:44 GMT
Cyberpunk followed by Halo. Do you have a penchant for games that get released before they're finished?
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Post by marcp on Sept 2, 2021 11:47:40 GMT
I played maybe 10-12 hours on X1X with no real bugs to report. I dropped it as the shooting felt a bit limp, which I don't think is something any RPG/shooter hybrid has ever gotten right. World itself was brilliant, few decent patches and I could be persuaded to give it another go I'm sure.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 2, 2021 13:58:24 GMT
I played maybe 10-12 hours on X1X with no real bugs to report. I dropped it as the shooting felt a bit limp, which I don't think is something any RPG/shooter hybrid has ever gotten right. World itself was brilliant, few decent patches and I could be persuaded to give it another go I'm sure. Oh I don't know, some of the gunplay felt pretty engaging. It's certainly not perfect but it's far and away better than the typical 'dice roll' shooting in most rpgfps |
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Post by Vortex on Sept 2, 2021 16:32:28 GMT
Or I'll just be onto Halo. I played through most of the endings, but had been hoping for a new'n'improved current gen version. Like you say, by the time it's out, I'll be playing other stuff and will never try it. Shame, it was fun and worked pretty well on series x for me. Few comedy T-poses and one or two glitches, requiring a reload, but nothing terrible. I would not have liked to try it on last gen stuff though. |
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Post by aubergine on Sept 3, 2021 11:27:55 GMT
I played it on ps4pro at launch and it was fine. One time, a garage door that was meant to open during a car chase, did not, and Jackie and I were launched hundreds of feet into the air and exploded when we hit it. I thin that was the only reload I had (other than through normal gameplay). I traded the disc in though, and will probably buy it digitally if it goes on sale and play it again on a PS5 someday. It would be interesting to see how the experiences compare I guess, but I was there for the story and I doubt that will change at all, unless they want to tip in all the early stuff with Jackie they cut out.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 7, 2021 14:35:43 GMT
Finally completed this the other day after holding off on the 'point if no return' to go do other stuff.
Figured I'd just complete the damn thing and go back and mop the other stuff up later if I cared. The final mission was a bit shit to be honest but what totally ruined it for me was them taking all control from you forcing you to do dumb shit to progress. Literally hate shit like this in a game.
Destiny 2 did it at the beginning with the hobbling along and far cry always seems to do it with his trippy shit but there have been many culprits before.
I literally lost all interest at this point and stop reading and listening and just wildly stabbed at the keys until it was over.
Didn't give a shit about the ending, don't know it if was good or bad. Ruined it for me.
Shame.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Sept 7, 2021 14:59:42 GMT
Hm, I quite liked the ending tbh
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Post by wizbob on Sept 8, 2021 22:43:33 GMT
Figured I'd just complete the damn thing and go back and mop the other stuff up later if I cared. The final mission was a bit shit to be honest but what totally ruined it for me was them taking all control from you forcing you to do dumb shit to progress. Literally hate shit like this in a game. I have completed four completely different endings to the game, with completely different missions and outcomes. Maybe try another approach if you didn't like the ending you got. That said, all of them have a non-interactive funnel to Mikoshi at some point. Some of them have post-Mikoshi action too. |
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 9, 2021 14:01:10 GMT
That said, all of them have a non-interactive funnel to Mikoshi at some point. Some of them have post-Mikoshi action too. It wasn't the ending I got that I was bothered about, I just lost all interest in it at this point because of this non-interactive funnel as you describe it as. This mechanism for guided story telling to convey confusion or emotion just irks me greatly. I don't regret the game and will play new dlc etc but the closing stage just feels like it was shat out |
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Post by 😎 on Oct 29, 2021 19:15:36 GMT
DLC now delayed to 2022 too.
lol
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 29, 2021 19:17:50 GMT
It really is a clusterfuck. If only they had released it in 2022 like they were told to. I can't see many people giving a shit when everything under the sun is released next year.
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Post by richardiox on Oct 29, 2021 19:55:25 GMT
DLC now delayed to 2022 too. lol B B But they released an apology for the launch fuck up(s) that had the title "our commitment"...which after committing to they also failed to deliver on. Pretty spectacular stuff. |
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Post by aubergine on Oct 30, 2021 0:22:56 GMT
Eh. Just like No Man’s Sky, I bought it at launch and had a fine time with it, though I’m glad I have a PS4 Pro and not a base console. But people losing their minds over frame rate dips must be too young - or too old - to remember the low frame rates of so many games in the past when everyone wasn’t on the internet losing their minds over details. I take frame rate dips during intense firefights as just psychological damage on the protagonist, it’s rarely made a game unplayable despite what Digital Foundry says.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 4:04:41 GMT
Tim Roger's review is up. It's 8 videos totalling a length of 10 hours, because Tim Rogers is an insane person.
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Post by Frog on Oct 30, 2021 6:50:53 GMT
Could finish the game yourself in that time.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Oct 30, 2021 7:28:12 GMT
Still the game of the year for me  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 7:38:07 GMT
That's a rough year.
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Post by sport✅ on Oct 30, 2021 7:39:54 GMT
Tim's magnum opus.
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Post by bichii on Oct 30, 2021 8:35:03 GMT
Still the game of the year for me I was just looking at the games I've played this year. What a shit shit year. 2077 I first finished last year so it can't be it. It so would have been my goty though. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Oct 30, 2021 8:44:06 GMT
Still the game of the year for me I was just looking at the games I've played this year. What a shit shit year. 2077 I first finished last year so it can't be it. It so would have been my goty though. Oh shit, you're right of course. I got it for my Birthday at the start of the year, so incorrectly assumed it was this year... Have I even played any games from 2022? Do I care? But lets put it another way - I very much enjoyed Cyberpunk 2077 and it's pretty much the only game of the last few years that kept me interested enough to play for 50 hours. And frankly there's fuck all coming out next year that really interests me, so I'd still be interested in DLC for this, assuming it's substantial. The only reason I haven't played more is because I'm too close to "my" V of the first play through and trying a different path just felt weird. If (when?  ) new game+ is implemented I'll be jumping back in. |
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Post by bichii on Oct 30, 2021 9:01:38 GMT
I was just looking at the games I've played this year. What a shit shit year. 2077 I first finished last year so it can't be it. It so would have been my goty though. Oh shit, you're right of course. I got it for my Birthday at the start of the year, so incorrectly assumed it was this year... Have I even played any games from 2022? Do I care? But lets put it another way - I very much enjoyed Cyberpunk 2077 and it's pretty much the only game of the last few years that kept me interested enough to play for 50 hours. And frankly there's fuck all coming out next year that really interests me, so I'd still be interested in DLC for this, assuming it's substantial. The only reason I haven't played more is because I'm too close to "my" V of the first play through and trying a different path just felt weird. If (when? ) new game+ is implemented I'll be jumping back in. Most of my favourite games this year aren't 2021 games. My favourite 2021 game is resident evil village. I did replay 2077 this year on the series X so maybe it can be my goty this year as well. My first run was male nice guy ex corp. Second was female nomad bitch. I definitely enjoyed my story character choices on first run more. |
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Post by Worlds on Oct 30, 2021 11:24:59 GMT
Cyberpunk was my GotY last year too.
Despite its flaws, it was immersive and epic. No worse than Fallout 4, which I loved.
I can overlook frame rate dips too. Back in the old days it was totally normal, so I don’t I ever expected perfection in any game.
It crashed a few times but I’m not bothered.
Still holding out to replay it on PS5 until the major update.
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Post by Matt A on Oct 30, 2021 12:38:54 GMT
Cyberpunk was my GotY last year too. Despite its flaws, it was immersive and epic. No worse than Fallout 4, which I loved. I can overlook frame rate dips too. Back in the old days it was totally normal, so I don’t I ever expected perfection in any game. It crashed a few times but I’m not bothered. Still holding out to replay it on PS5 until the major update. Started playing it and so far agree completely. It's clunky in places but to make a game with such scope is always going to have immersion issues because it's so ambitious. At least in my opinion |
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Post by britesparc on Nov 1, 2021 10:51:47 GMT
So I completed Cyberpunk over the weekend. I get people's comments about the "funnelling" of the final section. Regardless, I enjoyed the finale, but there is a big issue with the end, and I don't know if it's me or the game. I don't think this is spoiler-y - especially as there are multiple endings - but to put it simply, after the credits rolled, to keep playing I essentially had to reload to before the "point of no return" final mission stuff, with all the abilities, progress, items, etc, I'd picked up in the last section removed. I don't recall ever experiencing this in an open-world game before; usually they pull some shenanigans to let you keep playing but they don't roll back progress. Anyone else find this? I'll spoiler tag the next bit to provide context, in case it turns out I'm an idiot. So I did the whole "get the Nomads to attack Arasaka" thing at the end, storming the palace so to speak, and then I got into Mikoshi and chose the option to go back into my body with six months to live rather than remaining with Alt. I assumed it'd then deposit me back in Night City to essentially play those final six months, more or less, and finish all my side-quests. But no, there's this whole sequence where you drive out of the city with the Nomads and escape across the border, and then the game ends and it reloads an old save. So, basically, is this a possible "cut the game off" ending, are there others that really DO let you roam Night City after the credits roll, or is this just how the game works? Because it felt really weird and jarring and a little off-putting, especially as I'd been cultivating relationships that were effectively cut off without my knowledge or anything because I assumed I could go back to them. Anyway, it's not a big deal, and I'd always planned on sidelining the game till the "next-gen" version was released, and then going back to do the side-missions. But it was a bit weird... |
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Post by Rodderz on Nov 1, 2021 11:47:02 GMT
britesparcRegarding the spoiler bit in your post about the ending, as far as I'm aware, none of the other endings allow you to explore Night City after the end mission events.
I went down a different path to you whereby I gave V's body to Johnny, as he can carry on living, and got a cutscene culminating in Johnny heading out of the city on a bus to start anew somewhere else.
The only way to continue exploring Night City is to load an older save just before the final mission, which I think the game prompts you to do .
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Post by britesparc on Nov 1, 2021 11:53:57 GMT
RodderzYeah, cheers, I suspected as much. Is it weird for a game to essentially roll back progress like this? I never completed Witcher III so don't know if that's how that ended, or if it happens in, say, the Far Cry or Assassin's Creed games as I've never completed any of them either. But in the big RPG-style games that I have played - Mass Effect, Arkham Knight, etc - you can roam around after the story finishes with all progress etc retained. It's not too a big a deal, it's not game-breaking, I just thought it was a weird choice, but then I don't play LOADS of games (certainly not ones the size of Cyberpunk, as quite frankly I don't have the time!) so maybe it's actually pretty common.
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 1, 2021 12:02:13 GMT
Rodderz Is it weird for a game to essentially roll back progress like this? Just off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure Horizon Zero Dawn did the same thing. |
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Post by Rodderz on Nov 1, 2021 13:25:36 GMT
britesparcIt's definitely more unusual than commonplace for an openworld game to end in such a way. Given the fractious nature of the development of CP2077, you wonder if this really was the original plan or a last minute decision. Perhaps future dlc will give some idea of the direction CDPR want to take post-ending.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 13:36:51 GMT
I'm doing a second playthrough. I love this game. I am lucky that I've had no issues with a decent PC. Well, one or two like the car being upside down but nothing I didn't see in GTAV on the whole.
The game definitely feels unfinished. But it's just gorgeous, the combat is nice, the missions are decent, the city is an amazing sandbox.
What could have been I guess. It really could have been a watermark type moment if they could have pulled off their ambition. Bit off more than they could chew.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Nov 1, 2021 13:56:53 GMT
Having the ending be an actual ending, and not let you keep playing after the story ends is unusual, but given where most of the endings end up, I think it makes some kind of sense to roll back to the point of no return.
I think it would be equally odd to have a fairly definitive end where V, in one way or another, moves on, then just plop back into Night City like nothing happened.
And in many ways, continuing to play "after" the story is effectively no different to a roll back; you might not keep all the loot but none of it is really essential, and based on my own experience I didn't make tons of character progression.
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) new game+ is implemented I'll be jumping back in.
