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Post by Rich on Jul 28, 2024 15:36:57 GMT
A good and fairly accurate thread. Only slight challenge to it would be that you don't have to 'red dot' and issue a verbal warning' when using Taser. It's best practice but not at the expense of safety. You should always announce it's use though as you activate it for the safety/awareness of others. Not sure how relevant that will be to this situation as it seems fairly clear that no warning was given (and hopefully obvious why.)
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 28, 2024 16:45:26 GMT
The "fight" (the gang assault on male and female officers) started again when yer man reached for the restraining officers gun. Maybe more people knowing you'll get a swift boot to the dish if you assault British police officers might not be a bad thing?
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Post by addyb on Jul 28, 2024 16:47:17 GMT
You wouldn't see Riggs or Murtaugh doing such a thing.
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Post by Danno on Jul 28, 2024 17:14:22 GMT
Good thing he didn't have a bread bin lid or shit would have got real
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Post by damagedinc on Jul 28, 2024 20:38:58 GMT
Yeah that ends any discussion to be had if any. It's all very clear in that well written thread. The officer has clearly just got "red mist" and reacted to a horrible assault on him and colleagues. However he is not above the law and his actions cannot be justified.
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Post by Whizzo on Jul 29, 2024 15:35:46 GMT
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Post by zephro on Jul 29, 2024 15:54:37 GMT
It could also just be what we already know, that the sexting with 17 year olds also included dick pics.
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Post by jimnastics on Jul 29, 2024 16:56:54 GMT
It could also just be what we already know, that the sexting with 17 year olds also included dick pics. Category A (the worst) images of children found on his phone...
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Post by mothercruncher on Jul 29, 2024 19:13:08 GMT
Not interested in excusing him, chuck whatever book needs throwing, etc. But don’t you get charged with the “making” bit when you receive images because, technically, a new copy of any image then exists in the world when you receive one? Of course he could well have solicited any/all of them.
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Post by loto on Jul 29, 2024 19:50:30 GMT
I thought it was editing images for their own gratification, but according to the CPS:
"making indecent images can have a wide definition in the law and can include opening an email attachment containing such an image, downloading one from a website, or receiving one via social media, even if unsolicited and even if part of a group.”
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Post by cubby on Jul 29, 2024 19:59:59 GMT
Yeah it's bizarre that they went with the word "making" for that, I'm sure there was a guy who really wanted that wording to make the downloaders crimes sound even worse.
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Post by minimatt on Jul 29, 2024 20:18:35 GMT
i guess the argument is that viewing this shit is creating the demand - ie it wouldn't be made if there wasn't a demand for it, ergo the people who view it are responsible for making it? ie you're not just being charged with offending moral sensiblity but for responsibliyty for harming a victim
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Post by cubby on Jul 29, 2024 20:26:14 GMT
While true in the usual case, if these are images that someone has whatsapped to you and they get saved to your phone (as happens on default whatsapp settings) that also gets counted as making. The law is creaking with how technology works nowadays.
If this has anything to do with the other story (the low number of images kind of suggests it might be similar, if not directly related) it could be an interesting test of how the law is currently defined.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jul 29, 2024 20:29:29 GMT
Definitely a key factor and you’re part of the perpetuation of the thing in seeking that stuff out, but it’s such a wide net that, opening a WhatsApp from someone you’ve been flirting with is covered too… which is one reason why avoiding the skeezy age gap shit is, like, sensible.
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Post by zephro on Jul 29, 2024 21:07:18 GMT
Yeah that's my understanding of the law. Not excusing anything or saying it's necessarily true. But the new story could contain almost no new information except the CPS are pressing charges. It could basically just be the previous story again rather than some new thing.
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Post by apollo on Jul 30, 2024 13:36:12 GMT
Glad to see some good news today
Anjem Choudary jailed for life
die in jail you cunt, a utter piece of shit that has been a hate preacher for years and years and the courts finally got him
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jul 30, 2024 16:15:33 GMT
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Post by cubby on Jul 30, 2024 16:18:12 GMT
Ah g'wan pet!
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Post by Whizzo on Jul 30, 2024 16:50:50 GMT
Don't think you're going to meet your new robot best friend in one of those.
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Post by X201 on Jul 30, 2024 17:14:37 GMT
Waits for jolly japes of a YouTube prankster who dresses one up to look like a photo booth for clicks and giggles
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jul 30, 2024 17:37:15 GMT
Finally a viable retirement plan.
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Post by Ulythium on Jul 31, 2024 9:10:43 GMT
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Post by mothercruncher on Jul 31, 2024 9:14:37 GMT
Oh… mucky.
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Post by zephro on Jul 31, 2024 9:46:37 GMT
oh proper creepy paedo ones as well. Rather than the above the age of consent below the age of dick pics weirdness of UK law.
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Post by Ulythium on Jul 31, 2024 10:10:24 GMT
Lobster dinner for King Charles cost France €450,000
Money well spent, I think we can all agree.
FFS, France - you used to know how to deal with royalty! What happened?
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Post by apollo on Aug 1, 2024 14:13:22 GMT
Thief who stole 798 Creme Eggs jailed
should of been made to eat 798 one one go (also those things are nasty to eat now, as cadbury cut costs)
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Post by X201 on Aug 1, 2024 14:27:58 GMT
8 months, but is it un œuf?
/Here all week, /Try the veal
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Post by drhickman1983 on Aug 1, 2024 15:20:00 GMT
Targeting 19 shops over 4 months.
Was he exclusively stealing Creme Eggs?
If the total cost was £3,463.96 that did mean each egg cost £4.34. I know inflation is brutal but that seems eggsessive.
But assuming the eggs were all he stole, each egg earned him just over 7 hours of hard time.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 2, 2024 6:56:32 GMT
If he's a hardboiled criminal he'll be able to do that time without cracking
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Post by mrpon on Aug 2, 2024 8:07:34 GMT
An expert at tonguing the brown.
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