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Aug 11, 2023 9:43:48 GMT
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Post by beastmaster on Aug 11, 2023 9:43:48 GMT
Is any of this even properly confirmed because you know there's a whole strike going on. No. But it’s only actors and writers that are on strike. Agents, publicists and the like are very much not. |
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Aug 11, 2023 9:45:54 GMT
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Post by kal on Aug 11, 2023 9:45:54 GMT
There’s absolutely no reason to bring back any of them. The highest any of the actors in the DCU ever really achieved was ‘not terrible’ but there’s not a single one that became iconic as a character.
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Aug 11, 2023 10:13:32 GMT
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 11, 2023 10:13:32 GMT
To the point that Cavill will be remembered for playing Gerald rather than arguably the most iconic comic character in the world.
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Post by kal on Aug 11, 2023 10:17:44 GMT
He was more iconic in MI simply by having a moustache.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 11, 2023 10:23:16 GMT
It made me grow one, for sure. Moustache haver of the year.
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Aug 11, 2023 10:34:06 GMT
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Post by kal on Aug 11, 2023 10:34:06 GMT
It was a really good moustache to be fair.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 11, 2023 10:37:59 GMT
Im not even joking. Shaped like a steath bomber.
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Aug 11, 2023 10:40:32 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Aug 11, 2023 10:40:32 GMT
Cavill will probably be glad to be revving up the chainsword with a lot more control than he's ever had before.
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Post by britesparc on Aug 11, 2023 11:45:04 GMT
There’s absolutely no reason to bring back any of them. The highest any of the actors in the DCU ever really achieved was ‘not terrible’ but there’s not a single one that became iconic as a character. I dunno, I think Gadot came closest. WW was the best of the bunch and she was great as the character. But they never really did anything with the franchise. Even if you just took her two solo films, the second one was - charitably - a damp squib so it's more wasted potential really. That sums up the DCEU for me. Wasted potential. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 11, 2023 12:24:19 GMT
Hot take: I think WW84 is the worst DCEU movie by some distance, even worse than suicide squad.
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Aug 11, 2023 12:38:00 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 11, 2023 12:38:00 GMT
I don't think that's a hot take. That's an extremely reasonable take.
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Aug 11, 2023 12:39:06 GMT
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Post by wunty on Aug 11, 2023 12:39:06 GMT
One that I also agree with. I didn’t mind the suicide squad actually. It’s watchable. Ww84 was horrendous.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 11, 2023 13:53:55 GMT
Hot take: I think WW84 is the worst DCEU movie by some distance, even worse than suicide squad. I'd take it above any of the Man of Steel / Justice League junk. And above Suicide Squad. Not seen THE suicide squad.
I have this weird feeling of deja vu...
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Post by Whizzo on Aug 11, 2023 13:57:45 GMT
One that I also agree with. I didn’t mind the suicide squad actually. It’s watchable. Ww84 was horrendous. I'm assuming you meant "Suicide Squad" and not "The Suicide Squad" as that's madness.
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 11, 2023 14:35:02 GMT
Hot take: I think WW84 is the worst DCEU movie by some distance, even worse than suicide squad. I'd take it above any of the Man of Steel / Justice League junk. And above Suicide Squad. Not seen THE suicide squad.
I have this weird feeling of deja vu...
Me too (on both the taking it over those films you mention and the deja vu). But whatever really. Not sure I can be bothered to bat for it. I had an enjoyable but forgettable couple of hours watching it. I don't think it is as bad as everyone says, but not good enough to fight over. |
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Aug 11, 2023 18:05:34 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Aug 11, 2023 18:05:34 GMT
Not recasting would cause confusion about the universe reboot as well as feeling a bit lazy, as if those actors are the only possible choice for any of the roles.
I’m assuming the rebooted universe will probably fall apart after the first film doesn’t make a ridiculous amount even if it’s good anyway. I’m not sure they can make them good enough for enough people to care that much any more.
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Post by wunty on Aug 11, 2023 18:33:08 GMT
One that I also agree with. I didn’t mind the suicide squad actually. It’s watchable. Ww84 was horrendous. I'm assuming you meant "Suicide Squad" and not "The Suicide Squad" as that's madness.
To be honest I didn’t think the new suicide squad was much improved on the first one. |
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Aug 11, 2023 18:38:01 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 11, 2023 18:38:01 GMT
Not recasting would cause confusion about the universe reboot as well as feeling a bit lazy, as if those actors are the only possible choice for any of the roles. I’m assuming the rebooted universe will probably fall apart after the first film doesn’t make a ridiculous amount even if it’s good anyway. I’m not sure they can make them good enough for enough people to care that much any more. I don't think the average cinema goer would be confused at all. They just don't care enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2023 18:38:52 GMT
Night and day compared to the first piece of shit, suicide squad.
And it gave us the glorious Peacemaker.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2023 19:11:22 GMT
I'm assuming you meant "Suicide Squad" and not "The Suicide Squad" as that's madness.
To be honest I didn’t think the new suicide squad was much improved on the first one. I didn’t either. The first one was labeled a poor man’s Guardians of the Galaxy, and this one literally was that. But Peacemaker was good. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2023 19:13:07 GMT
Although by that I mean both Suicide Squad movies were bad, not that they were both good. Just didn’t think Gunn’s was much better.
Agreed with WW84 was terrible though.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Aug 11, 2023 19:18:02 GMT
Speaking of Wonder Woman and iconic star power, did anyone actually realise Netflix dropped a $130m Gal Gadot movie today?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2023 19:21:12 GMT
Only because my wife said "That woman you fancy is in a new Netflix film I saw" while sneering at me to see how I'd react.
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Aug 11, 2023 19:34:01 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 11, 2023 19:34:01 GMT
Speaking of Wonder Woman and iconic star power, did anyone actually realise Netflix dropped a $130m Gal Gadot movie today? I gotta say, and fair play to her, she's done a fantastic job in convincing stupid executives that she's a good actress. |
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Aug 11, 2023 20:59:36 GMT
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Post by geefe on Aug 11, 2023 20:59:36 GMT
I can imagine if she did the meetings in person, it didn't take much effort
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Post by britesparc on Aug 11, 2023 21:39:21 GMT
Not recasting would cause confusion about the universe reboot as well as feeling a bit lazy, as if those actors are the only possible choice for any of the roles. I’m assuming the rebooted universe will probably fall apart after the first film doesn’t make a ridiculous amount even if it’s good anyway. I’m not sure they can make them good enough for enough people to care that much any more. I think - and this might be me being old and sentimental - that a really good Superman movie, done right, could have a Top Gun: Maverick effect, where people go to recapture some kind of nebulous feeling of what they think they remember Superman being, whilst also enjoying a rollicking movie that works best when seen on a big screen. But in general I think all superhero movies (all Hollywood movies?) need to recalibrate their expectations and start thinking that a huge hit is $700m and not $1bn, and therefore you should only spend $150m on a massive tentpole movie and not $250m. And pay your writers. |
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Post by Onny on Aug 12, 2023 4:36:13 GMT
Speaking of Wonder Woman and iconic star power, did anyone actually realise Netflix dropped a $130m Gal Gadot movie today? I gotta say, and fair play to her, she's done a fantastic job in convincing stupid executives that she's a good actress. Yes but is she an A list star? |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 12, 2023 5:37:25 GMT
Seems like it.
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Post by nazo on Aug 12, 2023 7:51:29 GMT
Adverts for that Gal Gadot thing were all over the screens at Tottenham Court Rd, didn’t realise it was a film and not a series though.
I’m not sure how much engagement a single film drives, it seems a lot for them to spend.
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Aug 12, 2023 7:55:25 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 12, 2023 7:55:25 GMT
I think it's part of a deal she has with netflix. I think one of them was the mediocre action film she starred in with The Rock and Ryan Reynolds. Can't remember the title but it was one of those films that seems cheap because they used up all the budget on the actors so there's barely any supporting cast. I specifically remember that when guns were fired they were always fired at everything else but the target. Once you noticed it it became hard to unsee it.
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