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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 31, 2022 9:39:02 GMT
I think a fair few reviewers have (or I'd assume so with the review scores it's received) but I could be mistaken. BOTW is the best game I've ever played so I'm not against open world design by any stretch - I just don't think it's added as much to the game/experience as I wanted it to for Elden Ring. Makes sense as my favourite FROM game is Sekiro which is probably the 'tightest' of the lot. Sekiro was too hard for me, maybe I'll try again one day... Not sure why you're explaining the concept of 'groundbreaking' to me with regards to games - it's not something I'm hanging my hat on, it was a repeated remark from a fellow poster (LTK) who summed up my own thoughts nicely. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 9:40:41 GMT
Just brush up on bullshitting and avoid being a horrible person. Win win. I fear it might be far too late for that latter. I probably will have a go on ER at some point, but I suspect it’ll go the way of DS3 for me. Cheap in the sales one day, perhaps. Do you want my copy? It's a bit scratched up where I attacked it with a pair of scissors and carved the word "cunt" into it, but it might still work |
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 31, 2022 9:46:32 GMT
I fear it might be far too late for that latter. I probably will have a go on ER at some point, but I suspect it’ll go the way of DS3 for me. Cheap in the sales one day, perhaps. Do you want my copy? It's a bit scratched up where I attacked it with a pair of scissors and carved the word "cunt" into it, but it might still work Thanks for the kind offer but I already own it digitally. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 9:47:32 GMT
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Post by snackplissken on Mar 31, 2022 9:47:33 GMT
I fear it might be far too late for that latter. I probably will have a go on ER at some point, but I suspect it’ll go the way of DS3 for me. Cheap in the sales one day, perhaps. Do you want my copy? It's a bit scratched up where I attacked it with a pair of scissors and carved the word "cunt" into it, but it might still work I'll pay you in a written note in poo GET GUD |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 9:47:41 GMT
That's not calling you stupid.
Anyway I'm not in to argue with you for your opinions on Elden Ring, as I've said, I couldn't care less. I just didn't want to see you take offence when I don't think it was meant in that way, and my intention was to point that out, that's all.
It kind of is
And no, that's fine. You're cool too wunty. I know you're not a stirrer
It honestly wasn't my intention chief. It was to diffuse rather than anything. Tact is something I do lack a little of though, so it possibly didn't come across as intended. I do enjoy the little back and forths on here but wouldn't dream of it if I knew the other person wasn't in the same mood for it. I honestly just didn't think frog was having the dig you thought he was. |
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 31, 2022 9:49:42 GMT
It doesn't have to be groundbreaking to be amazing, similarly something can be groundbreaking but hugely flawed.Sekiro was too hard for me, maybe I'll try again one day... Not sure why you're explaining the concept of 'groundbreaking' to me with regards to games - it's not something I'm hanging my hat on, it was a repeated remark from a fellow poster (LTK) who summed up my own thoughts nicely. You wrote "I don't think anyone has claimed the design is groundbreaking, it isn't." then you replied "I think a fair few reviewers have (or I'd assume so with the review scores it's received) but I could be mistaken." I read that as you assuming the game has groundbreaking design because review scores were high. Have I misunderstood again? |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 9:50:30 GMT
It kind of is
And no, that's fine. You're cool too wunty. I know you're not a stirrer
It honestly wasn't my intention chief. It was to diffuse rather than anything. Tact is something I do lack a little of though, so it possibly didn't come across as intended. I do enjoy the little back and forths on here but wouldn't dream of it if I knew the other person wasn't in the same mood for it. I honestly just didn't think frog was having the dig you thought he was. No worries. I think you're one of the least aggro people on here
I haven't got a problem with fogofdoom either for what it's worth. It's forgotten now to be honest
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Mar 31, 2022 9:50:50 GMT
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 31, 2022 9:51:04 GMT
My mangled brain somehow linked it to my Sekiro comment. I imagine the cunt bit, did it  |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 9:52:47 GMT
I don't think you're a cunt. I just don't understand why you're being so difficult. Can't be arsed with grudges
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 31, 2022 9:57:28 GMT
Not sure why you're explaining the concept of 'groundbreaking' to me with regards to games - it's not something I'm hanging my hat on, it was a repeated remark from a fellow poster (LTK) who summed up my own thoughts nicely. You wrote "I don't think anyone has claimed the design is groundbreaking, it isn't." then you replied "I think a fair few reviewers have (or I'd assume so with the review scores it's received) but I could be mistaken." I read that as you assuming the game has groundbreaking design because review scores were high. Have I misunderstood again? No that's fair - 'groundbreaking' maybe isn't the right word for what I'm trying to get across and it's not really the crux of my point. What I'm trying to say is that I think Elden Ring is simply an open world Dark Souls and it doesn't do much more than that. BOTW brought Zelda into the open world and came with a whole slew of systems and mechanics that worked with and complimented the open world design. With Elden Ring there doesn't seem to be that synergy there - it's an open world Dark Souls and it seems that's all it is (which is still a lot of fun and incredible at times). There's very little new in the way of mechanics and systems and I think I expected a little more when review scores are on the same level as BOTW, Mario Galaxy and the like. |
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Post by Kay on Mar 31, 2022 10:01:26 GMT
I don't understand all the fuss tbh. There are still loads of Zelda fans that think BotW is overrated and they much preferred the more focused, dungeon-heavy older titles. Not surprising that some people will feel this way about Elden Ring as well.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 10:03:18 GMT
People are overly emotional willies when they really love something. I get it, but it's still annoying
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 10:10:18 GMT
In all fairness, you anticipated a reaction when you posted that you'd abandoned it, and you got one!
And, not to disparage any comment about "it's just a game", but I think sometimes they become more than that. They become our anchor, or our escape, our therapy even. Let's not put ourselves down for being emotional about them on occasion, as they have become - and are - a big part of our lives sometimes, particularly when we need them to be. That doesn't excuse zealotry, but can excuse heightened emotions.
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 31, 2022 10:10:37 GMT
You wrote "I don't think anyone has claimed the design is groundbreaking, it isn't." then you replied "I think a fair few reviewers have (or I'd assume so with the review scores it's received) but I could be mistaken." I read that as you assuming the game has groundbreaking design because review scores were high. Have I misunderstood again? No that's fair - 'groundbreaking' maybe isn't the right word for what I'm trying to get across and it's not really the crux of my point. What I'm trying to say is that I think Elden Ring is simply an open world Dark Souls and it doesn't do much more than that. BOTW brought Zelda into the open world and came with a whole slew of systems and mechanics that worked with and complimented the open world design. With Elden Ring there doesn't seem to be that synergy there - it's an open world Dark Souls and it seems that's all it is (which is still a lot of fun and incredible at times). There's very little new in the way of mechanics and systems and I think I expected a little more when review scores are on the same level as BOTW, Mario Galaxy and the like. Agreed, I think that a lot of people, reviewers we included were very unsure about how good Elden Ring was going to be, when the videos with the horses flying upwards came out, people were doubtful so when the game comes out and still has the great Souls gameplay but they nailed the BOTW style open world exploration it felt fantastic. |
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 31, 2022 10:12:57 GMT
This thread makes me want to go play BOTW again...
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Post by dfunked on Mar 31, 2022 10:13:35 GMT
This thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with knitting needles...
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 31, 2022 10:14:57 GMT
This thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with knitting needles... ..and then play BOTW? |
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Post by suicida on Mar 31, 2022 10:16:55 GMT
With Elden Ring there doesn't seem to be that synergy there - it's an open world Dark Souls and it seems that's all it is (which is still a lot of fun and incredible at times). There's very little new in the way of mechanics and systems and I think I expected a little more when review scores are on the same level as BOTW, Mario Galaxy and the like. Ashes of War and the Spirit Summons are both great additions to the formula IMO. AoW in particular are really great in how they allow lots of customisation once you get the different whetstones. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 10:17:00 GMT
This thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with knitting needles... That's a stupid thing to say.
All you'll do is burst them. You need something that will scoop. A spoon or one of those plastic pumpkin scoopy things. Watch out for the optic nerve, you'll need to either cut that, or yank hard once you've got a grip of your eye.
I think I have a diagram for the best method if you want it.
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 31, 2022 10:19:24 GMT
This thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with knitting needles... That's a stupid thing to say.
All you'll do is burst them. You need something that will scoop. A spoon or one of those plastic pumpkin scoopy things. Watch out for the optic nerve, you'll need to either cut that, or yank hard once you've got a grip of your eye.
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 31, 2022 10:34:04 GMT
With Elden Ring there doesn't seem to be that synergy there - it's an open world Dark Souls and it seems that's all it is (which is still a lot of fun and incredible at times). There's very little new in the way of mechanics and systems and I think I expected a little more when review scores are on the same level as BOTW, Mario Galaxy and the like. Ashes of War and the Spirit Summons are both great additions to the formula IMO. AoW in particular are really great in how they allow lots of customisation once you get the different whetstones. Yeah, agree with this, especially for people new to the Souls series. I think I'm part of the problem tbh - I play these games the same way I did since original Demon's Souls on the PS3 and find it tricky to break out of the pure melee playstyle. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 10:59:16 GMT
In all fairness, you anticipated a reaction when you posted that you'd abandoned it, and you got one! And, not to disparage any comment about "it's just a game", but I think sometimes they become more than that. They become our anchor, or our escape, our therapy even. Let's not put ourselves down for being emotional about them on occasion, as they have become - and are - a big part of our lives sometimes, particularly when we need them to be. That doesn't excuse zealotry, but can excuse heightened emotions. I did, but I shouldn't have had to
Yeah, people enjoying things is fine. I'm not going to put someone down for enjoying video games but I'm not going to just accept being on the receiving end of people's emotional outpouring over one either. I'm not collecting names or anything
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 11:02:46 GMT
Ashes of War and the Spirit Summons are both great additions to the formula IMO. AoW in particular are really great in how they allow lots of customisation once you get the different whetstones. Yeah, agree with this, especially for people new to the Souls series. I think I'm part of the problem tbh - I play these games the same way I did since original Demon's Souls on the PS3 and find it tricky to break out of the pure melee playstyle. Same, same. I didn't even touch the summon things. It's me vs the enemy |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 11:03:33 GMT
Aunt Alison Yes but also, it's the internet. You're going to get an opinion if you want one or not! This is a very safe space though, and always has been since it's inception last year. It's not quite what EG was. If this is the extent of the disagreements on here, then we're doing okay. There hasn't really been anything major, unless I've missed shit. Which is always possible - there are certain threads I don't go into.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 11:04:33 GMT
Yeah, agree with this, especially for people new to the Souls series. I think I'm part of the problem tbh - I play these games the same way I did since original Demon's Souls on the PS3 and find it tricky to break out of the pure melee playstyle. Same, same. I didn't even touch the summon things. It's me vs the enemy Bloody hell. Use the summons you stupid bastards, you're not playing it right! |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Mar 31, 2022 11:06:58 GMT
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Post by suicida on Mar 31, 2022 11:11:28 GMT
Same, same. I didn't even touch the summon things. It's me vs the enemy Bloody hell. Use the summons you stupid bastards, you're not playing it right! I got really attached to a few of themm, especially the ones with a bit of story attached, like the Jellyfish or Latenna. Love the summons, really allow for some interesting tactics and playstyles. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 31, 2022 11:12:11 GMT
Like the 'noob playstyle' and 'cowardly tactics'
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