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Post by Danno on Feb 22, 2022 12:22:56 GMT
Yeah I doubt the Evening Standard is going to be wound up anytime soon. I wonder when we'll see Lebedev at No.10 again
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Post by Tuffty on Feb 22, 2022 12:31:06 GMT
Good article from RTE about what sanctions could be imposed. www.rte.ie/news/world/2022/0222/1282256-sanctions-russia-explained/Seems even the lightest ones would make Russia feel it. Nord 2 shutdown is good but Russia wouldn't feel it short term as its not operational. But taking them off SWIFT makes international trade extremely difficult. It's an interesting one because if you throw all the sanctions at them now, there's nothing really stopping Putin from going 'Well it can't get worse' and continue his push through to take all that's left. The balance has to be just right. |
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Post by X201 on Feb 22, 2022 12:32:05 GMT
Blonde twat announcing sanctions in parliament now
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Five Russian banks sanctioned.
Three individuals sanctioned (presumably Putin's buddies)
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Post by technoish on Feb 22, 2022 12:37:39 GMT
Sanctions on individuals are weak. They just move their cash back.
Real sanctions are on institutions and infrastructure, locking them out of global economy.
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Post by dogbot on Feb 22, 2022 12:38:20 GMT
Yeah I doubt the Evening Standard is going to be wound up anytime soon. I wonder when we'll see Lebedev at No.10 again Well, Boris has already made Jr a life peer and him and his dad are dyed-in-the-wool Putinites. Should really be booted out, the pair of them. Johnson is talking tough because he needs to appear tough, but I have no doubt he's hoping it'll all blow over before he actually has to do anything. He'll waffle and bluster and not impose any sanctions, whilst the rest of Europe cuts ties and freezes assets. Because he's a cunt. |
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Post by technoish on Feb 22, 2022 12:38:35 GMT
Pff just heard the sanctions are on a couple banks and a couple individuals. What a let down.
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Post by dogbot on Feb 22, 2022 12:44:54 GMT
I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
His speech is 100% bluster, 0% actual action.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Feb 22, 2022 12:45:19 GMT
Pff just heard the sanctions are on a couple banks and a couple individuals. What a let down. This is phase 1 remember. They haven't actually started a full scale invasion yet. |
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Post by dogbot on Feb 22, 2022 12:46:51 GMT
Pff just heard the sanctions are on a couple banks and a couple individuals. What a let down. This is phase 1 remember. They haven't actually started a full scale invasion yet. Aren't sanctions designed to stop that happening? This is so he doesn't have to upset any of his donors. Meanwhile... |
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Post by technoish on Feb 22, 2022 12:48:57 GMT
Those tanks are massive.
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Post by rhaegyr on Feb 22, 2022 12:49:35 GMT
None of those banks are in the top five largest in Russia (ranked by roubles).
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Post by technoish on Feb 22, 2022 12:52:00 GMT
Jeez PM is just so much gob shite.
It's even more awful when applied to grave matters of international security. No real thought and gravity in the words.
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Post by Dgzter on Feb 22, 2022 12:59:17 GMT
Yup, these particular individuals and banks amount to fuck all, it would appear:
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Post by elstoof on Feb 22, 2022 14:13:38 GMT
Mrs stoof works in financial crime, she’s having a fucking nightmare of it today navigating the sanctions. Russian money is spread all through our financial services so we get hit just as hard as they do when sanctions roll in
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Post by Immaterial on Feb 22, 2022 14:21:45 GMT
The issue is that for the UK it's going to come down to political will. And given that our current Tory government are up to their eyeballs in Russian dark money pretty much guarantees that all we'll hear is a lot of 'tough' rhetoric coupled with ultimately meaningless sanctions, which will amount to negligible rubbles to Putin. In a world where we were actually still of international relevance, and our leaders were not effectively in hock to Russia, then what we should be seeing is numerous London-based Russian oligarchs, those who are unable to clearly and satisfactorily account for their wealth, having their accounts and properties frozen for the foreseeable. Threatening Putin's finances is genuinely the only card the UK really has to play here. But it won't happen, of course. Forget freezing just seize and auction the assets, give everyone a tiny tax break with the proceeds and bob's your maxwell. CON +30, Bojo immortalised as this century's Churchill. |
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Post by sport✅ on Feb 22, 2022 14:23:57 GMT
we get hit just as hard as they do when sanctions roll in Well, we've had a ton of practice after Brexit. |
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Post by geefe on Feb 22, 2022 14:29:25 GMT
The best time to have Liz Truss as foreign sec
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Post by technoish on Feb 22, 2022 14:43:12 GMT
we get hit just as hard as they do when sanctions roll in Yeah, but that's after taking that sweet oligarch blood money, so sympathy is low  See also: those poor Swiss bankers exposed by the Credit Suisse leaks. |
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Post by Dougs on Feb 22, 2022 14:44:58 GMT
Mrs stoof works in financial crime, she’s having a fucking nightmare of it today navigating the sanctions. Russian money is spread all through our financial services so we get hit just as hard as they do when sanctions roll in This is what the woman from the IEA was arguing on Politics Live. Because it was the IEA, I was instantly suspicious. Easy to say, but Starmer went in quite hard in what he thinks we should do. |
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Post by X201 on Feb 22, 2022 15:03:12 GMT
The best time to have Liz Truss as foreign sec I was going to post that reminder, but then I thought about the pain and anguish it would cause to everyone on the forum.
You heartless bastard Geefe
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 22, 2022 15:40:17 GMT
A barrage of sanctions which he won't hesitate to use, apparently. But is somehow not using.
Crap, didn't notice the new page.
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Post by imamazed on Feb 22, 2022 15:47:46 GMT
The best time to have Liz Truss as foreign sec Could be worse, could be Boris Johns- Oh, wait. Yeh. |
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Post by sport✅ on Feb 22, 2022 16:11:50 GMT
Can't we send in Seagal to calm that fucker down or something?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 22, 2022 16:14:11 GMT
Can't we send in Seagal to calm that fucker down or something? Yeah, I can guess he can give him a half arsed leg sweep. |
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Post by sport✅ on Feb 22, 2022 16:18:40 GMT
Can't we send in Seagal to calm that fucker down or something? Yeah, I can guess he can give him a half arsed leg sweep. He's big buds with Putes though. Imagine Steven Seagal literally saves the world from nuclear annihilation. Like Rodman did with Kim Jong. |
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Post by X201 on Feb 22, 2022 16:27:47 GMT
The best time to have Liz Truss as foreign sec Could be worse, could be Boris Johns- Oh, wait. Yeh.     The last four incumbents. Which one would you choose to face down Russia? |
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Post by Psychotext on Feb 22, 2022 17:06:10 GMT
Some pretty tough rhetoric from BoJo the clown and the government, too. Talking about "a barrage of sanctions", including freezing assets and restricting economic activity in the UK for Putin's mates. Hard to imagine that it's not just posturing, though. Given our first set of sanctions are fucking shit... yes. They'll never properly bite the hand that feeds them. Pff just heard the sanctions are on a couple banks and a couple individuals. What a let down. This is phase 1 remember. They haven't actually started a full scale invasion yet. ...and yet, by comparison the first set of EU sanctions appear to be decently meaty. Plus Germany pulling the plug on Nordstream 2. Related, a Tory on the BBC said that "We must not impose sanctions on Russia that will hurt us more than it will hurt them...". I assume he meant the Tory party rather than the UK. |
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Post by geefe on Feb 22, 2022 17:45:54 GMT
I'd choose Hunt. It's not even a contest.
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Post by Reviewer on Feb 22, 2022 17:53:56 GMT
He’s a cunt but he can string a sentence together unlike any of the others.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Feb 22, 2022 17:55:05 GMT
Fuck let's just invade Russia. Haha swoop in while they are distracted and annex Sochi. Turn it into the new Benidorm. |
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