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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 13:24:56 GMT
Ham didn't get a lap on Inters due to the red flag, plus they were running different rear wing setups again (like Jeddah) so not really possible to directly compare just yet.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 13:27:23 GMT
Oh and regarding the Merc upgrade, apparently it's a weight reduction rather than radical new design. They said on Sky that teams have avoided big updates this weekend because of the sprint race.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 14:43:41 GMT
F3 qualifying a bit farcical. The live timing showed the checkered flag 2 mins early. Some cars stopped, some continued round. Embarrassing and not fair on the drivers and teams again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 15:33:08 GMT
Golly... very lucky for Hamilton at the end there.
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Post by damagedinc on Apr 22, 2022 15:36:43 GMT
Merc really have to start thinking about where the hell this went wrong for them. At this stage looking like complete complacency.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 15:43:35 GMT
Oh Carlos, come on man, you're better than this.
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Post by damagedinc on Apr 22, 2022 15:48:20 GMT
Be interesting to see if ferrari back him long term if these mistakes keep happening.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 15:54:14 GMT
Merc really have to start thinking about where the hell this went wrong for them. At this stage looking like complete complacency. I doubt they were thinking 'no one will solve porpoising so we'll be fastest' when designing that car. The key thing is whether their 'b spec' car whenever it arrives demonstrates that the properly understand their issues. From what I've read the cost cap means that waiting to bolt bigger chunks on is better use of budget/tokens than rushing lots of smaller parts. Therefore it could be argued that the relative lack of progress is them not panicking and being smart rather than any complacency. It's a shame for the championship to not have Hamilton and Russell involved and I'm a bit sad that a car that looks so daring and novel is a mess. Anyway, good to see McLaren more competitive. Lando's the man in this weather.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 15:55:01 GMT
Be interesting to see if ferrari back him long term if these mistakes keep happening. Literally just announced a new contract through to end of 2024! Feel for him a bit as his Melbourne issues weren't his fault, and he's looked just as quick as Charles the past two rounds. If Leclerc wins again Sunday, I think that's it for Carlos's Championship hopes. Bottas-esque unfortunately.
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Post by damagedinc on Apr 22, 2022 15:57:20 GMT
Be interesting to see if ferrari back him long term if these mistakes keep happening. Literally just given him a contract through to end of 2024. Precisely my point. Will they stick with him for that long. Contracts mean nothing.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 16:00:10 GMT
Actually I guess Sainz will start P10 so the fact that it's a sprint race weekend may mean he can recover to a podium by Sunday, but even then that probably means losing another 15-20 points to Charles.
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Post by damagedinc on Apr 22, 2022 16:04:58 GMT
I think he will be fine. When the pressure of fighting leclrec goes after this weekend he will play a commendable support role I'm sure.
The worry is ferrari keep running away with it and with no one in sight of leclrec!
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 16:13:46 GMT
Totally agree, that's why I'm rather gutted Sainz has just left the stage for him rather than making it competitive and giving us a bit of intrateam politics to enjoy. I like both Ferrari drivers so I'd be perfectly happy with a season-long fight for the title between them.
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Post by brokenkey on Apr 22, 2022 16:15:15 GMT
Red Flags are ruining F1
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Post by damagedinc on Apr 22, 2022 16:16:11 GMT
That is quite an impressive recovery from Kmag
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 16:42:32 GMT
It's a necessary evil but I'd much prefer a rule that said if you cause a red flag you should have your qualifying times deleted for that session. Not that Bottas gained much of an advantage but it's too open to be exploited right now. I find it a bit ridiculous that you can keep your times after screwing everyone else over. Red flag - delete all a drivers times. Yellow flag - take away a drivers fastest time. Would have cost Norris a P3 there but so be it, he screwed up.
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Post by damagedinc on Apr 22, 2022 18:59:41 GMT
It's a necessary evil but I'd much prefer a rule that said if you cause a red flag you should have your qualifying times deleted for that session. Not that Bottas gained much of an advantage but it's too open to be exploited right now. I find it a bit ridiculous that you can keep your times after screwing everyone else over. Red flag - delete all a drivers times. Yellow flag - take away a drivers fastest time. Would have cost Norris a P3 there but so be it, he screwed up. After jules I'll never have an issue with over zealous red flags in the wet. I know this was more an issue either recovery vehicles but the point remains
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 22, 2022 22:43:35 GMT
the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hughes-why-mercedes-fell-so-low-in-imola-qualifying/Mark Hughes has got to be the best F1 print journalist around today. He's brilliant at providing coherent, rational explorations of why things happen in F1. Old fashioned journalism like asking the team personnel questions, actually listening to the answers then contrasting their claims with all the data to see if they support their position.
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Post by monkman5000 on Apr 23, 2022 5:37:33 GMT
Yeah he's good on their podcast too.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Apr 23, 2022 10:14:22 GMT
Its a shame that he's attached to The Race as by and large they are absolute hacks over there.
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Post by damagedinc on Apr 23, 2022 11:17:00 GMT
Merc sandbagging confirmed!
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 23, 2022 13:59:54 GMT
Its a shame that he's attached to The Race as by and large they are absolute hacks over there. Interested to know why you say that? They are all proper F1 journo's actually attending races in person and meeting people, not youtubers or content aggregators that just take other people's work and add a bit of opinion. Their only significant issues as far as I'm concerned is mildy annoying headlines (they massively overuse questions as headlines) and minimal proof reading (loads of typos). The actual articles are good though and their podcast is as well. Ed Straw of The Race used to be editor of Autosport then left and took several of their best guys with him to form The Race. As a consequence there was a massive drop off in quality at Autosport which meant I stopped the 'plus' subscription that I had maintained with them for years. The Autosport podcast also became pretty dire for a while as they seemingly tried to reposition it towards a younger market. I can only assume that bombed because on a recent listen it was pretty clear they'd change tack again for this season back to a more 'traditional' journalistic approach. I'm pretty happy with The Race but would welcome recommendations for alternatives if anyone has any? I occasionally read planetf1 and racefans but find them both a bit superficial.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Apr 23, 2022 14:18:39 GMT
I couldn't tell you what the crack is this season in terms of who's doing their stuff but Gary Anderson is woefully behind the times these days and Edd Straw's driver ratings have been utterly laughable in terms of him favouring the British drivers completely in the face of all logic.
I don't know what the answer is in the F1 world when these journos can follow the drivers around the world a fair bit and often befriend them, but I'd love to see a medium that drops the sycophancy completely. Hughes is the best of the bunch but he still seems to assume Mercedes as the main character of F1 at times.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Apr 23, 2022 14:40:33 GMT
Christ I hope these sprints are given the bullet next year.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 23, 2022 14:46:58 GMT
Ha, yeah Ed gets a lot of shit for the ratings below the line but I honestly think it's because many people don't understand the rating system as it's very different to what you typically see in the media.
He doesn't weight results that highly, it's based on whether a driver 'maximised' their individual performance over a weekend (inc qualifying) and ignores all factors outside their control as much as possible (SCs, bad pitstops, poor strategy calls by the team). Also 5 is a true average and 6 is considered 'good'. He uses the laptime data to compare teammates and many fans don't have access to this. I find his ratings quite interesting but appreciate how it could annoy people.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Apr 23, 2022 14:58:04 GMT
Leclerc and Ferrari just have everything covered.
Camera work absolutely fucking abysmal. Might as well listen to it on the radio.
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Post by damagedinc on Apr 23, 2022 15:00:52 GMT
This is largely the problem with f1 journalism, you have to toe the line so to speak to get "access all areas" so to be too scathing comes with potential consequences.
Which is why I tend to turn to podcasts..missed apex is one of the few great ones. With alot of technical insight aswell. They can be a little merc biased though, however are very open about that and still give constructive criticism when due. Especially now! Haha.
Andrew Benson also quite balanced and was one of the few to call the end of last season out for what it was.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Apr 23, 2022 15:05:35 GMT
Cracking little race, that. Great overtake for the lead and Perez was absolutely caning it towards the end there.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Apr 23, 2022 15:05:41 GMT
Amazing racing these 2 are providing.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 23, 2022 15:12:15 GMT
Cheers, will give missed apex pod a try. Have to say I've got little time for Andrew Benson. He wrote some embarrassingly sycophantic articles about Hamilton about five years ago and I've never been able to take him seriously as a journalist since.
Quite enjoyed that sprint race. Very encouraging that the cars could follow closely round here. The DRS looks a bit too powerful. Think F1 seriously need to start thinking about binning it off, not sure it's needed any more.
Think that might actually be a net win for Ferrari despite failing to gain P1. Having Sainz back in position gives them tactical options tomorrow.
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