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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 14, 2021 10:44:43 GMT
Valteri pounding around the desert in his exciting new downgrade whilst his former teammate is heading to the palace to be tapped with a sword.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 15, 2021 12:02:04 GMT
Anyone else still angry haha
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Dec 15, 2021 12:09:33 GMT
I'm still hoping they get to settle it once and for all, Talladega Nights style on foot.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 15, 2021 12:12:31 GMT
Phahaha getting to that stage isn't it. I'm trying to work out if the "court drama" is all part of the plan
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Post by cubby on Dec 15, 2021 12:14:27 GMT
I'm hoping this is the start of a new trend.
3/4's through a race they should declare whoever's in last place wins
You need to perform 5 donuts to qualify
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Post by PatrickEwing on Dec 15, 2021 12:31:41 GMT
Anyone else still angry haha Do you know what I am. Throughout the season and going into the race really wasn't bothered which one of them won (just a general fan with a preference to Danny Ric) but christ this one stinks. I'm almost in denial and expecting another race this weekend. They way the celebrated with barely any airs and graces irks the most and listening to Horner on his TalkSport phone in on Monday evening had me spitting feathers. I use the word sparingly for exceptional cases but he really is a c**t. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 12:57:30 GMT
Anyone else still angry haha Actually moreso than after the race to be honest. The more I review it the more I think how unfair and stupid it was. Changing the rules to make it exciting etc is just not on. It genuinely may be the cause I stop watching now. |
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Post by monkman5000 on Dec 15, 2021 13:01:23 GMT
Trying not to let it annoy me, but failing. The worst thing is there's no good remedy. You can't take the title off Verstappen now, it would be hugely unfair. Whatever else happens, you have to leave the result as it currently is - i.e. hugely unfair on Hamilton. It really was an unbelievable shambles.
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Post by Psychotext on Dec 15, 2021 13:26:23 GMT
Not particularly angry to be honest. It was a shit way for the season to end, but in real terms it was an appropriate way for the season to end.
They need to sort out the stewarding / penalties etc for next year... but they wont.
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Post by darkling on Dec 15, 2021 13:35:36 GMT
For anyone who hasn't seen them, these'll cheer you up.
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 15, 2021 14:37:33 GMT
Yup, still angry, but that isn't a surprise. I'm not quite over the injustice of not penalising Schumacher for Adelaide 1994 yet and that was 27 years ago and less clear cut.
Disappointment I can deal with. As an Arsenal and England fan, for much of my life it's been the default outcome from big occasions.
Injustice doesn't fade as quickly, and Spa and Abu Dhabi were possibly the most unjustified, unsporting, manipulations of the Championships that I can remember.
I can't stop being angry about either until there's recognition that what happened was morally and ethically wrong, with serious failings that resulted in meaningful and material consequences for the integrity of competition. A full apology combined with changes plan to avoid repeats and I'll get over both quite quickly. Otherwise ask me again in 28 years time.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 15, 2021 14:39:16 GMT
Yup, still angry, but that isn't a surprise. I'm not quite over the injustice of not penalising Schumacher for Adelaide 1994 yet and that was 27 years ago and less clear cut. Disappointment I can deal with. As an Arsenal and England fan, for much of my life it's been the default outcome from big occasions. Injustice doesn't fade as quickly, and Spa and Abu Dhabi were possibly the most unjustified, unsporting, manipulations of the Championships that I can remember. I can't stop being angry about either until there's recognition that what happened was morally and ethically wrong, with serious failings with meaningful material consequences. A full apology combined with changes plan to avoid repeats and I'll get over both quite quickly. Otherwise ask me again in 28 years time. Yes I agree with all of this. Which I think will be mercs angle. Let max keep the result but fight the process and decisions made. Lewis going quietly and accepting this would be very "off brand" for how he's conducted himself. |
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Dec 15, 2021 14:46:39 GMT
So where do we stand on the foot race?
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Post by nexus6 on Dec 15, 2021 15:22:05 GMT
So where do we stand on the foot race? Probably on the track. At the beginning anyway. Then you have to run. |
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 15, 2021 16:02:49 GMT
Have to say I'm quite surprised Merc haven't withdrawn their notice of intent to appeal by now, assuming they intend to do so as per the speculation. Into the last 24hrs now to submit a full appeal or walk away.
Makes me think they are going to proceed and are using all the time available to compile evidence. Probably got De Vries on the simulator as we speak pretending to be the safety car driver whilst Toto plays the role of Masi.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Dec 15, 2021 16:09:59 GMT
I guess with it only being the intention to lodge an appeal they can just keep schtum until it passes. If that's what they intend to do I don't really blame them for not putting out a press release that amounts to "We give up, the FIA win".
I think they are just going to come back with every intention of absolutely smashing everyone next year. In one sense I would love to see their sass if they were to do so but on the other hand, plz god no.
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Post by Psychotext on Dec 15, 2021 16:28:13 GMT
They might tie it to Hamilton's knighthood today. Come out tomorrow and say he's too big for all this shit, which would be a great PR move.
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Post by PatrickEwing on Dec 15, 2021 17:44:21 GMT
Agreed. Let it pass in knowledge it will go down in history with a huge asterix next to 2021.
Interesting listening to other drivers pit radio during last 2 laps. Ricciardo’s in particular
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 15, 2021 20:36:42 GMT
I mean, my initial reaction is they can foxtrot oscar with the implication that what happened was just a misunderstanding, and a 'analysis and clarification' exercise is sufficient. Even their own stewards upheld part of the protest that said procedures weren't followed. We are all perfectly clear on what happened and it's just insulting people's intelligence at this point to suggest otherwise.
Masi made a massive mistake and then the stewards scrambled to cover his arse.
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 15, 2021 20:40:26 GMT
I would be staggered if that is enough for Mercedes to not proceed. I was expecting at least an admission that mistakes were made, and restructuring will be done before next season.
This release reads as if they are bracing for the court case and therefore can't admit any fault and just wanted to put out 'something' in a desperate attempt to not let it overshadow their ceremony tomorrow. Wishful thinking.
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 15, 2021 20:43:18 GMT
Mercedes have nothing to lose in proceeding, they have an awful lot of public support and the FIA has approximately fuck all.
Will they win? Probably not but not trying means they can't.
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 15, 2021 20:43:27 GMT
The more times I read it the angrier it makes me. Basically, they appear to be blaming everyone who was outraged rather than themselves.
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 15, 2021 20:51:11 GMT
Anyone who knows anything about the rules of F1 knows it was b*llocks, not least the drivers.
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 15, 2021 21:09:19 GMT
Mercedes declined to take part in today's official FIA photoshoot as constructors Champions and are apparently considering withdrawing their staff from attending tomorrow's gala. Chronologically, this was before the FIAs press release so I guess that may have provoked it, but if so, you'd think it would be worded in a more conciliatory way.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 15, 2021 21:10:20 GMT
Haha twitter is kicking off. I think it might actually have legs. How did the FIA think this would be good damage control haha
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Post by PatrickEwing on Dec 15, 2021 21:41:22 GMT
Fuck that’s the worst reply they could have come up with!
It’s everyone else’s fault! Dear god
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Post by askew on Dec 15, 2021 22:25:01 GMT
Maybe something got lost in translation…
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Dec 15, 2021 22:37:37 GMT
'Safety car in this lap' is a term of endearment in Latin America.
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Post by Lizard on Dec 15, 2021 22:39:47 GMT
I really hope Mercedes take this further. I understand the 'what's the point' and 'bigger than this' arguments, but I would lose respect for them if they just let it lie. It's actually about the culture of the sport as a whole.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 16, 2021 10:12:15 GMT
And merc have withdrawn. Assume pay off and the fia statement was enough. Just as much part of the problem now. Was a real opportunity to make a real statement.
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