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Post by Red_Bool on Sept 14, 2024 12:27:14 GMT
Given Q1, your guess is as good as mine...
Oh, hi new page!
Re: pole predictions
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 14, 2024 12:30:35 GMT
Lol, after all those team orders arguments, Norris / McLaren proper fucked that.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 14, 2024 12:42:05 GMT
Max pole incoming.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 14, 2024 13:00:21 GMT
Oh dear Williams wtf
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Post by SpiralScratch on Sept 15, 2024 12:21:21 GMT
Cracker of a race, loving the Piastri Leclerc contest at the front.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 15, 2024 12:21:52 GMT
F1 drivers should tandem drift more often. That looked badass.
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Post by SpiralScratch on Sept 15, 2024 12:28:24 GMT
Norris might just have the pace to catch Max in the final lap
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 15, 2024 12:31:02 GMT
Fun race, this.
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Post by SpiralScratch on Sept 15, 2024 12:31:59 GMT
Yes fuck you Max
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 15, 2024 12:37:00 GMT
Well that was an unexpected end to the race.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Sept 15, 2024 12:37:12 GMT
Man what a race. Don’t think I’ve taken a breath for a good hour there. Crash means Norris takes an extra point of Max too.
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Post by Red_Bool on Sept 15, 2024 12:38:31 GMT
Well earned for Oscar that. Great race!
Also, I love how Oscar sounds like Kimi.
Iceman.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 15, 2024 12:39:32 GMT
Piastri was excellent. That overtake was even better considering how much everyone else struggled to make one stick.
Verstappen had a shocker. I can only assume Newey’s last act was to sabotage the car for the lolz.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 15, 2024 12:40:15 GMT
Can't believe we've had a race there and it wasn't until the dying moments that there was any need for any safety car action.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 15, 2024 12:54:16 GMT
Bit of a classic street race that.
Excellent move for the lead, and pretty awesome that the cars were so evenly matched around here. Really thought Leclerc would have chances to come back but Piastri defended perfectly. Kudus for Charles for that defence against Perez too. Inch perfect.
Perez somehow managed to turn a rare thrashing of Max into a loss. What an idiot.
Norris did the maximum but he'll be frustrated. His pace on those old hards once free of Albon was impressive and showed what might have been. Very ironic that after all the chat about team orders it was Norris ensuring that Perez couldn't undercut that played a major roll in the win.
Very weird that Max just had nothing all day when the car seemingly had the potential to win. Must have got the setup totally wrong I guess.
I could get used to McLaren Vs Ferrari again.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 15, 2024 12:56:47 GMT
That was a great race. The smash at the end was epic.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 15, 2024 13:04:14 GMT
Ooh, McLaren now leading the constructors.
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Gruf
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Post by Gruf on Sept 15, 2024 15:22:59 GMT
Well that was an unexpected end to the race. Looked like a bit of online wonky netcode that crash, maybe iRacing does sim everything
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Post by zisssou on Sept 16, 2024 7:51:28 GMT
Bit of a classic street race that. Excellent move for the lead, and pretty awesome that the cars were so evenly matched around here. Really thought Leclerc would have chances to come back but Piastri defended perfectly. Kudus for Charles for that defence against Perez too. Inch perfect. Perez somehow managed to turn a rare thrashing of Max into a loss. What an idiot. Norris did the maximum but he'll be frustrated. His pace on those old hards once free of Albon was impressive and showed what might have been. Very ironic that after all the chat about team orders it was Norris ensuring that Perez couldn't undercut that played a major roll in the win. Very weird that Max just had nothing all day when the car seemingly had the potential to win. Must have got the setup totally wrong I guess. I could get used to McLaren Vs Ferrari again. I've seen a bit few analysis of the crash, some saying Saniz shouldn't have moved across, some saying Perez was straight looking at the tow from the car in front, should have seen Perez moving. I think it's somewhat a racing incident, there's no blame on just one. Both really risking it, then lost points. Both idiots.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 16, 2024 8:17:50 GMT
Yes I've changed my mind slightly on that incident after watching it from different angles. Both idiots.
Agree with you (and the stewards) that both could've avoided it so it's a racing incident. Either you penalise both or neither and the loss of points for them, fortunately without directly affecting anyone else unduly (aside from Max probably, but not definitely getting fastest lap) seems enough.
I'd still say Sergio was predominantly to blame because he was behind so had the better view and elected to leave no margin despite having plenty of space. But that in itself is just stupidly risky rather than illegal and neither party turned to instigate the contact.
We seem to get several of these incidents every year now. Used to be an extremely rare occurrence. Not sure if it's bigger cars, or worse visibility or drivers just feeling safer and more willing to take risks. Regardless it always looks so amateur.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 16, 2024 10:01:15 GMT
Thoughts?
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askew
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Post by askew on Sept 16, 2024 10:40:02 GMT
Very clever
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 16, 2024 10:40:56 GMT
I think I’m being dumb, but I’m not entirely sure what I’m supposed to be looking at there…
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Post by zisssou on Sept 16, 2024 10:52:46 GMT
There's two small gaps, that open upwards on straights, which sort of acts as a mini DRS. The gains are marginal, but in this sport anything like this can be pretty big. I think someone said Ferrari also have a gap.
It's also a theory as to why Norris was held back so much, as the dirty air wasn't helping with this mini DRS.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 16, 2024 12:34:44 GMT
I think I understand the concept but I'm not seeing any 'proof' in that image. It just seems too low resolution and the wing seems pretty similar in both states to me. I don't really get what the light grey on the top edge is showing?
If it's illegal (by letter of law) ban it and take away points. If it exploits an unintended loophole then it's clever and they should be allowed to benefit from that before it's closed at the end of the season.
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Post by mastercracker on Sept 16, 2024 13:24:06 GMT
Yes I've changed my mind slightly on that incident after watching it from different angles. Both idiots. Agree with you (and the stewards) that both could've avoided it so it's a racing incident. Either you penalise both or neither and the loss of points for them, fortunately without directly affecting anyone else unduly (aside from Max probably, but not definitely getting fastest lap) seems enough. I'd still say Sergio was predominantly to blame because he was behind so had the better view and elected to leave no margin despite having plenty of space. But that in itself is just stupidly risky rather than illegal and neither party turned to instigate the contact. We seem to get several of these incidents every year now. Used to be an extremely rare occurrence. Not sure if it's bigger cars, or worse visibility or drivers just feeling safer and more willing to take risks. Regardless it always looks so amateur. Still think it's mostly Perez's fault. Sainz is ahead, therefore has the infinitely worse visibility and barely moves at all. Perez is behind, can see everything and has 3 quarters of the track to his left. Give an inch man. Amusing to hear him whinging that Norris held him up, given his own hold up job in AD21. No shame have they
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Post by A46Matt on Sept 16, 2024 13:44:24 GMT
Complete racing incident but being the driver behind Perez has all of the information in front of him so he has more of a chance to make avoiding manoeuvres.
May have said it before but I do feel there’s an air of invincibility in the sport these days where drivers will take risks with little consequence with how good safety is.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 17, 2024 15:58:41 GMT
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 20, 2024 13:27:44 GMT
FIA being ridiculous again, negotiating with McLaren to modify their low downforce wing.
Declared legal at the start of the week, but not legal at the end of it, despite no changes to the regulations. It just undermines the sport.
I'm a McLaren fan but if they have definitive proof that the car breached the rules, I'd rather they lost points for the affected races (presumably any low downforce races post upgrade). By all means introduce tougher tests for future events and publish details but this wishy washy officiating by committee and negotiating needs to stop. Let them use it or share the proof and DQ them.
The time to change the rules is between seasons.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 20, 2024 13:43:10 GMT
Well that's McLaren's season over then.
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