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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 11, 2022 14:28:03 GMT
Love the conflict at Sky. Dying to say it's unfair because it's Max winning, but don't want to sound like hypocrites at the same time.
De Vries with debut points and smoking Latifi this weekend. Lol.
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Post by Gruf on Sept 11, 2022 14:29:28 GMT
Is Monza normally this short? This’ll be over in about 1h 20mins. I will use the time saved to get some extra mourning in. Stupid ending to a stupid race weekend. Over regulated tosh.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 11, 2022 14:32:49 GMT
Crowd have had their audio muted. Serious boos.
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Post by TheSaint on Sept 11, 2022 16:50:52 GMT
Do Sky F1 always turn off the replies on their tweets or is that related to the race today?
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Sept 11, 2022 18:13:18 GMT
Great drive from Nick. Hopefully Williams will offer him a drive next year. Him and albon would be a cool line up, given a half decent car at least.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 11, 2022 18:18:18 GMT
Williams seem to have a half decent car at certain tracks, they just have the worst driver on the grid by some margin.
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Post by damagedinc on Sept 11, 2022 19:03:09 GMT
Well I would rather have that than the circus of Abu dhabi
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Post by damagedinc on Sept 11, 2022 19:19:07 GMT
Williams seem to have a half decent car at certain tracks, they just have the worst driver on the grid by some margin. Imagine today was the final nail in the coffin for latifi, even with the money he brings in, the amount of lost points will out weigh that now.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 17, 2022 8:26:55 GMT
Couldn't watch the race last weekend as was working. However it's absolutely fine to end a race under a safety car as the rules stand. Not that it's relevant to any sporting decision but Leclerc was never going to win anyway. The rules were followed so the integrity of the event was maintained. The bar is so low that that was actually progress!
The main issue was the time taken to recover the car. I'd like F1 to have maybe 6 parking zones around every track designed for a car to safely pull over and stop without requiring a VSC let alone an SC to recover. Then incentivise the drivers to actually use them when they can't continue. Whether that's via rewards or penalties I don't know but there has to be a material consequence for passing a good place to stop and then doing so in a stupid place.
Won't prevent all SCs, and occasionally races will still end under one but that's racing and at least it'll be less frequent.
For next season I'd also support the idea of races being dynamically extended by a maximum of 5 laps to recover laps lost behind an SC. Also have a minimum stop time under SCs and VSCs so you can't get a massive advantage through luck.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 17, 2022 8:34:45 GMT
On the subject of the genius low drag/high downforce RB, here's a good video talking through the data: youtu.be/IxVjFYel8ywRB have produced a car that under normal circumstances at a track with decent straights, no one else can realistically race due to the overtaking/defending advantage they have. Singapore aside, I think Max can and will win every remaining race, irrespective of where he starts as other cars are no obstacle. Only Ferrari's even bother to defend.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 22, 2022 14:21:14 GMT
24 races next year. Even as a mildly obsessive F1 fan, I think that's too many.
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Post by PatrickEwing on Sept 22, 2022 14:25:25 GMT
Fucks sake, that means even more Christian Horner airtime.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 23, 2022 10:05:52 GMT
Latifi is out. Always seemed like a really nice guy. Just about deserved a crack at F1 by winning F2 (even if it wasn't a strong field). Just too far off Russell and Albon.
I guess I'd like De Vries to get it, but it's not hugely exciting. Ricciardo or even Vandoorne (who I felt never had a fair crack and has beaten De Vries in FE this year) would be more interesting.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 27, 2022 17:34:47 GMT
Six sprint races next year, just what every F1 fan was crying out for. Fuck's sake bring back Bernie.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 28, 2022 9:58:37 GMT
Yeah, it's a bit of a piss-take. I'm not against sprint races entirely, I just think the current format that's the problem. They basically detract from the Championship and Grand Prix as things stand. Make them reverse grid at the very least. Ideally something like reverse constructors order and the reserve drivers race for constructors championship points.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 28, 2022 10:14:06 GMT
Its just crap as it is. Half ruins races because all the people in 'wrong' grid slots can make up loads of ground in the sprint and put the field in formation for the race, and allows people to utterly take the piss out of engine penalties.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 30, 2022 15:35:46 GMT
Ignoring what will or is likely to happen to Red Bull and Aston Martin what's a fair punishment for breaching the cost cap last year?
I'm not decided in my own mind yet (depends on size of breach I guess) but it surely has to be a sporting penalty retrospectively applicable to the period in question both for integrity and for the regs to have any teeth. A fine doesn't really achieve anything seeing as the whole reason to risk overspending in the first place was because cash leads to results.
Also given how much RB in particular prioritised the drivers Championship I can't imagine they'd give a toss if they only lost Constructors points. Might be adding a second asterisk to last season.
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Post by damagedinc on Sept 30, 2022 21:36:23 GMT
Yeah a right mess and a nightmare for the FIA. I can feel another "ferrari engine" broom sweep coming on. Just depends on how much noise the other teams want to make. As others have said, it's a unique issue in F1 as the breaching of the cost cap would have benefited them through to this season.
Be stupid if it's a fine, as the bigger teams will just factor that into the spending. I imagine it will be constructor point deductions. Which won't actually affect anything. Whether we agree or not thats fitting who knows.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 30, 2022 22:54:28 GMT
It's also a bit of a fallacy for anyone to pretend it's a one season thing given it's a four year cycle of regs that any overspending would have benefited. If they're a few grand over or something like that I think we can all safely ignore it as accidental and move on, but if we're talking millions that's very meaningful.
Have to admit I wouldn't not enjoy Horner and Stroll Snr being taken down a peg or two. Mind you I have zero faith in the FIA due process after last year anyway. Plus it might yet be such a tiny infringement it's meaningless anyway. Let's see. Interesting subplot for sure.
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 1, 2022 13:56:28 GMT
Hamilton is a bit special around here. Several seconds faster than all the other slick runners at the start of the session.
Pity he doesn't have the car on a full dry track.
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 1, 2022 14:03:06 GMT
Agh, that rather feels like Hamilton's last realistic chance to steal a win this season gone.
Good effort though. Hopefully rains tomorrow.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Oct 1, 2022 14:03:08 GMT
Ha, Max had it there.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 1, 2022 14:03:39 GMT
What a fantastic qualifying session.
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Post by damagedinc on Oct 1, 2022 17:51:22 GMT
Really was a great qualifying. Still a chance for Lewis tomorrow. Depends obviously on the race pace of others.
Interestingly I was catching up with some old friends today. F1 came up for the first time forever. In a nutshell they now watch due to
DTS and love the sprints.
It's us dinosaurs that seem to kick up the stink
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 1, 2022 17:54:28 GMT
The drivers hate both!
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 2, 2022 8:44:21 GMT
Really was a great qualifying. Still a chance for Lewis tomorrow. Depends obviously on the race pace of others. Interestingly I was catching up with some old friends today. F1 came up for the first time forever. In a nutshell they now watch due to DTS and love the sprints. It's us dinosaurs that seem to kick up the stink I think Lewis will need a brilliant strategy/massive luck with a safety car or wet conditions to win from third even if he has the pace. I just don't think the fundamental issue of Merc not having the straight-line speed to overtake a Red Bull or Ferrari will have suddenly gone away entirely at a higher downforce track. I can understand why people like DTS, especially if they haven't been exposed to the real version of what happened but I don't understand how anyone could watch the sprints and think they are better. The whole point of 'Grand' Prix was that it is a borderline endurance and the distance is part of the jeopardy. There's time for unexpected things to go wrong and different strategies to play out. Neutrals who aren't into football like watching penalty shootouts more than open play but that doesn't mean we should try and engineer more penalty shootouts into the game.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Oct 2, 2022 10:35:05 GMT
Lewis' chance of the win squarely depend on if he can jump Perez at the start. If he doesn't I think Leclerc will open up a lead and Ham will undercut Perez but be nowhere near being able to get near Leclerc. If he does there's a chance he can undercut Leclerc if his tyres light up straight away and he can keep up, which seemed to be the case in FP1 and 2. I don't think it will be won on an overtake on track.
Max will be interesting to watch. He had a banging race here for Toro Rosso from the back so there's history of him doing it, but the cars are even bigger lard arses than before, so I see it being a tough day at the office.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Oct 2, 2022 10:52:28 GMT
Absolutely pissing it down now. I'd say it goes back to being the best chance of a Lewis win and Max coming back from nowhere, but we all know it will be a long afternoon of delayed starts and the race finally getting off under barely damp conditions on intermediates.
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 2, 2022 11:55:49 GMT
Still depends if overtaking is possible and if we are even going to get a race. Hopefully the new race stewards are a bit braver than Massi. Especially since they'll start the 3hr clock at the scheduled time.
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 2, 2022 11:59:09 GMT
Why are they doing a full hour start procedure? We don't need the anthems and all the grid nonsense. Just get the drivers out there and racing as fast as possible or don't start the 3 hour clock early. This time wasting nonsense that actually shortens the race is far worse than races naturally ending under the safety car every now and then.
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