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Post by Danno on Mar 30, 2024 22:21:41 GMT
I don't think that works in the prologue, unless I'm being even more dense than usual. Only works on replays, you have to view it once. |
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Post by JonFE on Mar 30, 2024 23:00:17 GMT
Today I started playing Ronin and tried this demo as well.
I won't derail this thread with my Ronin impressions, I'll just say that this does feel sluggish to me, compared not only to Ronin but to Jedi Survivor as well, the game I've been playing the last few weeks and finished last weekend (currently mopping up the last achievements)... and be sluggish I don't mean only the combat but the general movement as well, walking, running, jumping or swinging around poles, all feel slightly off...
I'm not sure the developer will have time to fix some of the nuisances in time for release or not and there are some redeeming qualities (ooh matron) but based on my demo impressions so far, it's on the "maybe on a sale" pile...
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 0:19:31 GMT
Only works on replays, you have to view it once.
That's the conclusion to which I've come as well - you can't skip cutscenes unless you die, whereupon you can hold Circle to skip whatever you've already watched.
If you want to replay the demo, you'll have to sit through everything a second (or third, or fourth...) time.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 0:20:35 GMT
Interesting, JonFE. Will you be posting your Ronin impressions in that game's dedicated thread? |
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Post by JonFE on Mar 31, 2024 1:11:09 GMT
Interesting, JonFE . Will you be posting your Ronin impressions in that game's dedicated thread? I need to move on a bit, still early hours, but I can tell you right now I am warming up to Ronin. At first everything seemed wrong and confusing, but I'm finding my steps with the combat and the world gives me that early whispers Elden Ring feeling, that "hmm, I want to go there, wait, what's that over here, intersting, what are those thugs guarding... /forgets where he was heading, loses an hour fucking around" scenario, which is a sacrilege to say out loud and frankly I did not expect going in. So yeah, first impression is a positive one and I don't regret my purchase. Edit: as for Stellar Blade, I think I was a bit harsh, comparing it to Jedi Survivor or Ronin. It does feel rough around the edges, but with some more polish or at the right price, it could be a good game for a dry season... |
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 1:13:07 GMT
Thanks, Jon. I'll look forward to hearing more as you progress through the game!
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Post by Duffman5 on Mar 31, 2024 6:20:15 GMT
Tried the demo yesterday, enjoyed the chunk I played, reminds me of Bayonetta and Scarlet Nexus.I do "need" a new ps5 game but these current price tags are putting me off a bit. Might bite.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 10:49:34 GMT
@spookyxelectric How're you feeling about the game, now you've completed the demo?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2024 15:46:02 GMT
I was always going to get it, it was just a matter of when. I miss PS2-era action games. It’s cool. Wish the Perfect Dodge was a little easier to pull off. I have more luck with the Perfect Parry. Blink at least has a tell.
Yeah, it’s cool.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 16:13:50 GMT
Edit: I should probably mention that I'm not watching his full playthrough of Rise, so he might have walked back some of that criticism without me knowing
He isn't doing one, which probably speaks to how little his opinion changed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2024 16:16:35 GMT
speaks to his poor taste!
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 16:31:05 GMT
He played for approximately 25 hours, so at least he gave it a fair shake. By contrast, he was much more positive about the Stellar Blade demo, and actively compared its combat with Rise's:
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 31, 2024 16:50:13 GMT
I just can't get past how ridiculous the main character looks.
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 31, 2024 19:32:04 GMT
Edit: I should probably mention that I'm not watching his full playthrough of Rise, so he might have walked back some of that criticism without me knowing
He isn't doing one, which probably speaks to how little his opinion changed. His loss I guess *shrug* |
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Mar 31, 2024 19:33:27 GMT
Gawd, everything about this just feels a bit cheap and tacky.
The combat is clunky as fuck, the alien design is a bit budget, the voice acting is poor and sex doll characters and leering camera angles are just awful.
Is this a full price release?
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 19:36:08 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 31, 2024 19:36:19 GMT
Gawd, everything about this just feels a bit cheap and tacky. The combat is clunky as fuck, the alien design is a bit budget, the voice acting is poor and sex doll characters and leering camera angles are just awful. Is this a full price release? It's the saviour against wokeism in games according to an incredibly loud section of the amorphous blob that is the gaming community. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2024 19:38:11 GMT
Yep. $70, and I imagine the same in £ and €.
I don’t actually think the voice acting is too bad, but while flipping through English, Korean and Spanish VOs, I was surprised I liked the Korean voices the least. It went from monotone to overacting on a dime.
At moment, my biggest issue is the blandness of the stage layout, but who knows, maybe later stages are better designed. At least artistically, they look more interesting. Judging from the trailers anyway.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 19:47:52 GMT
I dunno - I mean, he clearly wasn't vibing with the game, and I don't think forcing himself to finish it for the sake of a complete 'let's play' series would've been to anyone's benefit at the end of the day.
Have you managed to check out the Stellar Blade demo yet, Junior?
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Post by Vandelay on Mar 31, 2024 20:43:10 GMT
He played for approximately 25 hours, so at least he gave it a fair shake. By contrast, he was much more positive about the Stellar Blade demo, and actively compared its combat with Rise's:
Not watched the video, but the comments under the video are so alien to what I played. All "best combat I've ever played", "this feels SO good", etc. I think there is a good game here with some more work, but even with tweaks I can't imagine it being anything particularly special. I'm sure all these people will be complaining about woke journalists when this rightfully gets middling scores. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2024 20:48:03 GMT
I’m getting this game, but it definitely screams “Gematsu comment section: The Game.”
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 21:10:46 GMT
Not watched the video, but the comments under the video are so alien to what I played. All "best combat I've ever played", "this feels SO good", etc. I think there is a good game here with some more work, but even with tweaks I can't imagine it being anything particularly special. I'm sure all these people will be complaining about woke journalists when this rightfully gets middling scores. Even at my most fulsome (i.e. Friday afternoon, following a half-hour session immediately after the download completed), I couldn't bring myself to say anything that hyperbolic!
This was actually the first time I've downloaded a demo before a game launched. Combine that with my ill-disguised desperation for a new hack and slash title, plus my desire to see Stellar Blade as more than Boobs n' Booty Simulator 2024, and my initial comments on the game were a tad OTT; having since gone back with clearer eyes, I think I've ended up with a more balanced perspective than I had at the start.
"Best combat EVAH!" is a ludicrous claim as far as I'm concerned, unless those assertions are coming from people who have never played any melee action games before. It's such a daft position that I can't help but wonder whether those posting such remarks actually believe them, or whether they're just determined to support their 'team' in the culture war nonsense that has enveloped Stellar Blade from the get-go.
All that having been said, I do think the demo is good - whether the full game will be anything more than a 7/10, "good fun, but wait for a sale 'cause it's not worth seventy bucks" affair will depend upon how much tweaking Shift Up are prepared to do during the next month, if any.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Mar 31, 2024 21:11:20 GMT
I don't really have a huge interest in the game (I don't have a PS5 and not really into this gaming genre) but it's hard to not get swept along by the hype slightly.
But as a casual observer some of the comments elsewhere on the internet come across like a bunch of fanboys so desperate for this game with an "attractive"* character to be amazing they just spout hyperbole.
Glad FG has provided some more balanced views.
*I don't find the character that attractive and her pointy face is weird.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 31, 2024 21:18:14 GMT
They want the game with the sex doll character to be a hit to prove a very sad point that no one with an actual real life actually cares about.
Like you say I'm really glad I don't have to read that owning the libs/DEI shit on this forum.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 21:20:37 GMT
Jambowayoh You're on holiday at the moment, right? Any plans to download the Stellar Blade demo and give it a whirl when you get back?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 31, 2024 21:24:40 GMT
Jambowayoh You're on holiday at the moment, right? Any plans to download the Stellar Blade demo and give it a whirl when you get back? Yeah I've already set it to DL remotely. I'll give it a try when I get back. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 31, 2024 21:58:12 GMT
I dunno - I mean, he clearly wasn't vibing with the game, and I don't think forcing himself to finish it for the sake of a complete 'let's play' series would've been to anyone's benefit at the end of the day.
Have you managed to check out the Stellar Blade demo yet, Junior?
I'm not particularly in the mood to do so tbh, and I don't really know why. By all accounts it's something I'd at least like to try, I suppose I just feel like finishing Rise of the Ronin first (of course, with how long that's gonna take Stellar Blade will probably be fully out by that point, but eh  ) I'll probably give it a shot at some point though |
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 31, 2024 21:59:57 GMT
They want the game with the sex doll character to be a hit to prove a very sad point that no one with an actual real life actually cares about. Like you say I'm really glad I don't have to read that owning the libs/DEI shit on this forum. And I'd say chances are the devs themselves are not invested in this Western culture war either, they just took the Yoko Taro approach of 'I like hot girls' and that's fine, just some weirdos trying to prove a point against enemies they made up in their own head.
Voice acting certainly seemed bland and monotone. Defenders will surely say it's intentional as Eve's an android. Only time will tell if it gets any better. Nier Automata can be accused of the same but of course, as the game progresses , 2B and 9S get more emotionally invested in theilr descent to madness. This too is also 'aliens are bad' but who knows if they'll go for the same apporoach.
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Post by Danno on Mar 31, 2024 22:02:35 GMT
I think I've settled on 'It's fine but better have some improvements by or veeeeery shortly after release and even then that's nowhere near enough to justify 70 quid when it'll be free with Plus within 2 years'
The incels are fucking baffling*, you can't move for waifu shite if you look, and those ghouls have definitely looked.
*Why can't they just be the 2006 keyboard warriors that shit on WoW or whatever
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 31, 2024 22:59:56 GMT
I think I've settled on 'It's fine but better have some improvements by or veeeeery shortly after release and even then that's nowhere near enough to justify 70 quid when it'll be free with Plus within 2 years'
Exactly where I've ended up.
Demo rinsed and deleted, now waiting for reviews.
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