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Post by peacemaker on Mar 6, 2024 13:59:43 GMT
Just played a round. The shield now almost instantly breaks and the rail gun rounds now bounce off chargers
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Post by Mark1412 on Mar 6, 2024 17:22:48 GMT
Boo. Had hoped they'd beef up to make lame things fun rather than nerf to make fun things lame.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 6, 2024 17:49:55 GMT
Overcharging the railgun needed to break the charger leg armour apparently, not tried it yet. I did try the buffed flamethrower though and it's a viable charger killer now, takes at most 10 seconds of shooting probably less as I wasn't firing continuously, the increased DoT helps. Meteor strikes are impressive and fucking dangerous, if you're in open space you'll wish you weren't, they're like artillery fire. 380mm orbital now worth using, it actually kills things.
Edit: decided to check my recording, the meteor strikes light up where they're going to hit so keep an eye out for them, not sure how well they're visible in daylight but perhaps the meteor storms are nocturnal!
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 7, 2024 1:20:46 GMT
Bit of a mixed bag playing in a group of regulars I play with, host crashing happened to me twice tonight when it's not been a thing much before, able to reconnect to a different player the mission could be completed but because I was the host the campaign train wasn't so we did it again and the mission was identical so a tad easier to plan for. The weapon changes require some relearning and the shield change means it won't recharge at all until it's broken which is a bit rubbish, I can see players shooting the shields of a friend to kick it off possibly being something that happens.
If Arrowhead want us to use a different tactic to take down chargers maybe not spawn so many of the fucking things in the first place as it can be ridiculous at times.
Also slightly ridiculous but in a good way, several secondary targets didn't need to be touched by us as meteor strikes killed them, having a secondary mission complete like a radio tower or stalker lair because some space rock hit it while you were nowhere near was rather nice.
Also ICBM launches look much better now, tons of fucking smoke when its engines are preparing to fire, do not stand too close to the launchpad when it finally does go up.
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Post by Duffking on Mar 7, 2024 12:28:16 GMT
I dunno. I played last night and found it absolutely fine with the nerfs. A bit tougher, but I really don't care if difficulty 8-9 are a lot more difficult. And even then it was still doable with co-ordination. I think the community is having a meltdown over nothing with the nerfs, there's plenty of stuff that remains effective against chargers and the railgun still works anyway. It makes sense to have some risk to it as it's a non backpack weapon.
We just ran a selection of heavies (1 railgun, a laser cannon, a arc cannon and a flamethrower) and to be honest for the most part the increase in difficulty wasn't all that perceptible. The massive hissy fits on reddit are just a massive case of skill issue to me.
The laser rover was better than the shield anyway, at least against bugs.
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Post by gibroon on Mar 7, 2024 13:02:57 GMT
I'm not really bothered about the nerfs. I'm more worried about the usual internet rage when a game gets popular, entitled gamers think they know better on how to develop the game rather than the actual developers. Sure, if it were Acti/Blizz they may have a point but for fuck sake leave the devs to do their thing. They created a very good live service game yet the good will may as well have just gone up in a big flaming 500kg bomb, cos RAGENERDS!
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Post by Duffking on Mar 7, 2024 13:24:18 GMT
It's very clear at this point that if reddit users got their way all stratagems would be infinite, have zero cooldown and the railgun would be fully automatic and one shot everything.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 7, 2024 14:44:20 GMT
And trailer :
And also the new major order that runs for the next three days is to liberate Tien Kwan, the sole exosuit manufacturing world so they'll probably pop up when it ends.
Also there's been a small PS5 update today, hopefully that fixes the crashes people were having but I've not tried it.
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Post by SpiralScratch on Mar 7, 2024 18:47:52 GMT
I joined 3 matchmade missions on PS5 last night and every one of them locked up on the final screen after mission rewards, needed a restart, so hopefully this fixes that ^^
PS5 framerate also seemed to be suffering big dips and stutters which I hadn't noticed before? It may be just me, or maybe caused by the heavy rain modifier. Using performance mode not quality.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Mar 7, 2024 22:09:16 GMT
Disgraceful conduct my arse. All I was doing was lying next to a rock waiting for the meteor strike to pass.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 8, 2024 0:52:22 GMT
The small PS5 patch that turned up on Thursday seemed to fix the crashing issue I was having hosting games and it randomly CTDing, hurrah. Played a whole bunch of different stuff using different weapons and tactics and found some respect for the EAT that I didn't have before, it won't kill a charger in a single hit but it will certainly fuck them up since a change has been made where the shells won't bounce or won't bounce as much. Not too useful for big crowds so much better for bot hunts than bugs really (although the machine pistol is always an option with a lot of little ones) is the Slugger. It's really rather good now, tons of ammo, kills most regular bots in a single shot and you can even stagger stuff like the strider and rocket devastator. Give it a try. Not sure I can agree with the orbital railcannon no longer one shotting bile titans though, that seems a little wrong especially when you can have multiple of them on harder difficulties so really need something that quickly takes one down. A task that the railgun used to do of course. Sure it's infinite uses but the cooldown can be very long at times.
Didn't find one in all the games I played this evening but if you're very lucky it's possible to find an exosuit lying around on Tien Kwan, so there's an extra incentive to liberate the planet.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 8, 2024 1:01:02 GMT
They're mentioning that they will bring out an update to tone down the number of Charger spawns, instead bringing in more smaller enemies. For the best prob. Had a good session earlier with a meteor storm going as as all kinds of explosions were happening too, madness
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Post by Duffman5 on Mar 8, 2024 9:29:27 GMT
Is there a demo/is it due a demo. I know word of mouth has been super positive, would be nice to dip a toe first though, being as I would likely be playing with bot AI or randoms 95% of the time.
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Post by gibroon on Mar 8, 2024 9:42:22 GMT
No demo but I would be surprised if you didn't at least get your £35 pounds worth. No AI bots but you can run things solo if you desire. You would be missing out on all the pyrotechnics if you did run solo.
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Post by peacemaker on Mar 8, 2024 12:36:35 GMT
Is there a demo/is it due a demo. I know word of mouth has been super positive, would be nice to dip a toe first though, being as I would likely be playing with bot AI or randoms 95% of the time. Do you like 3rd person shooters? Do you like bromance? Do you like starship troopers? Do you like big explosions? Do you like guns and bigger guns? Do you like Sifi shooters? Do you have £30 in your bank? If yes then get on it helldiver and join the cadet ranks. |
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Post by alastair on Mar 8, 2024 14:33:04 GMT
Is there a demo/is it due a demo. I know word of mouth has been super positive, would be nice to dip a toe first though, being as I would likely be playing with bot AI or randoms 95% of the time. You have to make a conscious effort to play solo - default is for matchmaking with randoms. You either join their game or they drop into yours. I've not played as much as some, but the random play aspect is no problem at all. I'd say it's no worse/weirder than randoms on Destiny or Monster Hunter. |
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 8, 2024 16:30:20 GMT
It's exosuit time. It also seems to have caused the servers to get rather busy... I went in from rest mode and couldn't buy it, restarted game and now can't connect. Bugger. |
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Post by SpiralScratch on Mar 8, 2024 17:28:43 GMT
that looks like it offers some good new ways to kill myself and/or team mates
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 8, 2024 17:43:02 GMT
It's nice and stompy, 1000 gatling rounds and 14 rockets aren't going to last forever just like the original game's suits, they can stomp the smaller Terminids but the medium sized ones stop it moving, no space for an SSSD though so they drop to the floor if you carry one and board.
No idea if my personal shield was protecting part of the suit but it was sticking outside the cockpit when I was wearing one.
Still can't buy it and servers doing the same as they were when overloaded before so things not really registering at times. Anyhow it's fun, probably best to have one out at a time with other divers doing the clean up while the suit pilot only uses the limited ammo when really needed. Dunno if they can be rearmed but I doubt it so no different from the originals. Everyone gets access to a free one when in a mission, it's a one and done for that mission though unlike the bought one there's no 600 second cooldown.
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Post by peacemaker on Mar 8, 2024 17:56:19 GMT
Seems to have borked the game. I’ve played two hours with various people. Hosting and joining and no one is getting any rewards. Samples, xp, cash. The mech is fun though.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 8, 2024 22:34:43 GMT
A side effect of calling in your exosuit is that the Pelican attacks targets as it drops it off, very handy!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2024 12:24:06 GMT
Had my first couple of games last night and could instantly see why it's hyped up so much. Played with randoms and they actually didn't dick about and played the objectives.
Even had one guy talk me through it as a noob, and didn't get pissed off when I shot him in the back of the head. Team killing and breaking a lifetime habit of reloading are what I picked up straight away.
Great fun.
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Post by privatefloyd on Mar 10, 2024 13:39:34 GMT
Had my first toxic player interaction in 40 hours of play today…..kept team killing for absolutely no reason, including on extract called in an eagle on the extraction. Why even bother?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2024 14:19:23 GMT
Played last night and had to drag myself off so I didn't stay up all night playing. Really does have the feel of those old Horde nights on Gears. Vortex time to get the band back together for Gears and beers. |
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Post by Vortex on Mar 10, 2024 18:06:13 GMT
Hah! I can well believe it. The first one was awesome, and all the clips whizzo puts up really makes me pine for this new one.
Sadly, I'm on t'other console currently and don't play enough these days to make it worth double-dipping consolewise.
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Post by peacemaker on Mar 11, 2024 10:20:02 GMT
What are people preference in enemy type to fight? At first I enjoyed robots more but now I definitely prefer bugs. I just find it more fun and all the animations on the bugs when getting hit and staggered and legs blown off just feels so much more satisfying.
Plus on high difficulty those rocket snipers the robots have with perfect aim through fog and everything including cover.
At first I did not like the rail gun nerf but before I didn’t know about unsafe mode and now it’s fun using such a lethal gun that also can instantly kill you if you make a mistake. So satisfying hitting a charger in the side when it’s charging your mate and it staggers it if the charge is over about 90%.
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Post by Frog on Mar 11, 2024 12:35:00 GMT
Delighted that my ship is named Ses Will of the People. Slightly less delighted that cross platform friend adding is still bugged for some people. Nightmare setting up a game with the Mrs as it refuses to allow us to add each other as friends. We have to create a game on a quiet planet at the lowest difficulty and use an SOS beacon to try and find each other. Took 30 minutes yesterday to get it to work and then once you are grouped it's fine.
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Post by peacemaker on Mar 11, 2024 12:43:17 GMT
My i ask why your wife is too ashamed to add you?
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Post by Frog on Mar 11, 2024 12:53:22 GMT
I don't think you have to look hard to see that 😂
But no, doesn't work either way.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 11, 2024 14:12:22 GMT
Having seen the chaos that AP mines can cause I happily did the personal order to use them by myself. Didn't take long either.
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