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Post by snackplissken on Feb 5, 2022 9:35:45 GMT
Yeah definitely they need to highlight more women’s wrestling, but the problem is the roster isn’t as talented as say WWE. They seemed to have some pretty talented female wrestlers on the new year show, but I dunno how deep/wide the talent pool is. Serena Deeb has certainly raised the bar. But what I’m getting at is that they wouldn’t be main eventing a PPV anytime soon as WWE have got years on them. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 5, 2022 12:58:42 GMT
Not really sure you can compare Archer and Goldberg. Goldberg can barely lift anyone these days. Him and Lashley had a good match last time in Saudi. Unless he's signed a new contract seems an odd choice for a final match though as that should be against an up and coming talent IMO. Undertaker match was dreadful but he did suffer a concussion right at the start. |
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Post by richardiox on Feb 5, 2022 13:11:00 GMT
Saudi seems the perfect choice for a final match considering Goldberg just comes back annually or bi-annualy to throw a spanner into existing angles, collect a Saudi/Mania pay day then fuck off again.
He's not really part of the roster.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 5, 2022 13:31:36 GMT
Serena Deeb has certainly raised the bar. But what I’m getting at is that they wouldn’t be main eventing a PPV anytime soon as WWE have got years on them. That's more about promotion than talent though, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2022 15:00:29 GMT
Ugh, Goldberg again. How backstage can be annoyed with Shane when they keep wheeling out Goldberg. I mean, the roster actually likes him, is why. That's Big E in particular's all time favorite. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 5, 2022 15:19:47 GMT
Ugh, Goldberg again. How backstage can be annoyed with Shane when they keep wheeling out Goldberg. I mean, the roster actually likes him, is why. That's Big E in particular's all time favorite. Still think Big E should have the final match with him. He needs that big name win |
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Post by richardiox on Feb 5, 2022 15:24:27 GMT
Big E? As in that guy in the New Day doing lower mid card tag matches with no build or investment on Smackdown? Can't see why he'd have a (one match) programme with Big Bill
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 5, 2022 15:44:34 GMT
Before they demoted him after poorly booking him as champ.
But they could have easily built him back up.
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Post by captbirdseye on Feb 5, 2022 15:58:14 GMT
Big E situation is just baffling. They've tried numerous times pushing him and then a couple of weeks later he's feuding mid carders.
It makes no sense from a wrestling point of view and even less so for merchandise - don't New Day print money?
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 5, 2022 16:13:29 GMT
Merchandise always a big seller.
The guy went all out getting over across multiple brands and giving the company outside exposure and in return? Not a single feud just the odd match then shoved into a 5 man match and no rematch.
Really wanted to see some feuds with the likes of Owens and Seth.
The new day have the perfect opportunity to go heel if they wanted to now.
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Post by richardiox on Feb 5, 2022 16:33:13 GMT
Thing is, WWE don't want most wrestlers to get over. Yes they'll often throw them a bone once in a while and maybe even be a transitional champ for 3 months but bar a select few it's not worth our time investing in their journey as they'll have their legs chopped off and be jobbed out in no time.
Big E classic example...make him champ, have him lose most of his matches whilst champ, book him half arsed then give up with "see, he's not doing numbers for us".
It's like Vince wants these guys to flop to reassure himself that going with Reigns and Lesnar almost exclusively for the last 5 years was indeed the right course of action.
If Brock takes more time off again and if Reigns picked up an injury they'd be fucked.
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 5, 2022 16:48:43 GMT
I want them to start pushing Owens hard again. Few years back they wanted him to be the next Austin like character.
Always enjoyed watching him. Also that steel steps spot on Raw was cool.
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Post by snackplissken on Feb 5, 2022 16:51:19 GMT
Serena Deeb has certainly raised the bar. But what I’m getting at is that they wouldn’t be main eventing a PPV anytime soon as WWE have got years on them. That's more about promotion than talent though, right? I’d argue you need a certain talent to main event. Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch etc Once they find Brit a good opposition who is great on the mic then we’ll see a main event. But that’s just my opinion. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 5, 2022 16:57:05 GMT
I like Rosa. Can see her as champ soon enough
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Post by richardiox on Feb 5, 2022 17:18:30 GMT
I want them to start pushing Owens hard again. Few years back they wanted him to be the next Austin like character. Always enjoyed watching him. Also that steel steps spot on Raw was cool. Same, they really could have done something with KO. When he first came in and beat Cena I thought he could be a big star. Didn't take them long to mid card the guy. The Austin thing is interesting because if they treated Austin how they've treated KO then I reckon Austin never would have reached the level he did. I can never invest in Owens again after his angle against Braun where Owens was made to look a total chump week after week. They buried him to get Braun over then a year later they cut Braun. God I fucking hate WWE booking. Great matches but impossible to invest long term and as a fan since 1989 I've given up on them. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 5, 2022 20:35:35 GMT
I don't think it hurt him. One of those whose so good they can get away with just about everything and by all accounts he enjoys playing the cowardly heel. Him and Sami definitely need a tag title run at some point.(either would also be a good pick for MitB) And what has happened to Elias?  |
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Post by richardiox on Feb 5, 2022 22:23:31 GMT
I don't think it hurt him. One of those whose so good they can get away with just about everything and by all accounts he enjoys playing the cowardly heel. Him and Sami definitely need a tag title run at some point.(either would also be a good pick for MitB) And what has happened to Elias? It did hurt him. I'm a good example. Gave up giving a shit about him as the "fight Owens fight" character I had invested in just disappeared and he was cowering from Braun and getting squashed. It's not just he was playing a cowardly heel version of himself, he was booked as the antithesis of what I loved about him. Was another "fuck WWE" nail in the coffin for me. He still has good matches but like I say, I just can't invest in the characters anymore so even the good matches lose any wider meaning than "that was a good match". Was pretty gutted when he resigned rather than jumping to aew. |
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Post by simple on Feb 6, 2022 0:13:02 GMT
Thing is, WWE don't want most wrestlers to get over. Yes they'll often throw them a bone once in a while and maybe even be a transitional champ for 3 months but bar a select few it's not worth our time investing in their journey as they'll have their legs chopped off and be jobbed out in no time. Big E classic example...make him champ, have him lose most of his matches whilst champ, book him half arsed then give up with "see, he's not doing numbers for us". It's like Vince wants these guys to flop to reassure himself that going with Reigns and Lesnar almost exclusively for the last 5 years was indeed the right course of action. If Brock takes more time off again and if Reigns picked up an injury they'd be fucked. They do this over and over. Its so frustrating. Not just because I want my guys to be on top but even from a business standpoint - there’s money to be made right there and they’d rather not just to prove a point. They even did to hugely to Ryder and that was just the US Title. |
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Post by rawshark on Feb 6, 2022 0:37:57 GMT
Honestly don’t think they’ll put their back into pushing anyone who they don’t see as a marquee Hollywood movie star anymore.
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 6, 2022 8:58:01 GMT
Thing is they probably won't care especially after just making over $1B in revenue for the first time ever.
But if they actually made more stars they would make even more through all the merchandise sales.
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Post by snackplissken on Feb 6, 2022 9:23:55 GMT
Hmm Austin Aries back on NWA. Most toxic wrestler around today?
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 6, 2022 10:06:23 GMT
Definitely one of them.
Ruining Morrisons win was the ultimate dick move
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Post by captbirdseye on Feb 6, 2022 10:12:51 GMT
I remember the end of his TNA run lol and I'm sure it will end the same in NWA.
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Post by snackplissken on Feb 6, 2022 19:34:05 GMT
I read he’s had a few anti lockdown and mask rants over the last few years. Majorly disappointing he’s turned out a complete nutter as he’s insanely talented in the ring.
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Post by simple on Feb 6, 2022 19:47:52 GMT
He’s a bit of an MRA too from what I remember. Shame NWA have gone for him.
Although I suppose he’s got name value and Billy Corgan has given some anti-woke culture interviews himself.
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 6, 2022 22:28:11 GMT
They going to do some cross promotion shows?
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Post by snackplissken on Feb 7, 2022 9:24:17 GMT
I thought they already did a few years back?
Been watching a few Jonah matches on Impact. That's a main event talent right there.
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Post by baihu1983 on Feb 7, 2022 21:38:08 GMT
Yeah he's good and sounds like Impact has been a great move for him.
This match should be good.
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Post by simple on Feb 8, 2022 0:26:09 GMT
I thought WWE basically owned Progress anyway?
Moreso than their partnerships with ICW, WXW and the Irish one anyway
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Post by simple on Feb 8, 2022 7:59:46 GMT
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