Youthist
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Post by Youthist on Jun 8, 2024 19:52:28 GMT
He has never played badly in a tournament for us. We look far worse without him and I think Pickford might be more exposed as a result of a different looking 4 in front of him.
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Post by simple on Jun 8, 2024 21:30:01 GMT
The short arms won’t help either
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Post by RobEG on Jun 8, 2024 22:01:55 GMT
Fucking hell, times are bad when we are wishing for maguire to return.
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Post by Frog on Jun 9, 2024 6:31:47 GMT
Easily England's best centre back in the air. Most of his problems come from his pace and slow turning circle which means he struggles with quick footed players. He can't play a high line as he gets caught out with it.
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Post by rawshark on Jun 9, 2024 7:44:26 GMT
Easily England's best centre back in the air. Most of his problems come from his pace and slow turning circle which means he struggles with quick footed players. He can't play a high line as he gets caught out with it. That reads like a critique of a Robot Wars entry. |
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Post by Dougs on Jun 9, 2024 7:45:27 GMT
Yeah, exactly. He suits the way England play. Backs to the wall or low block against a big lump of a CF and he'll do a job.
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Post by muddyfunster on Jun 9, 2024 7:52:27 GMT
Have we covered this yet?
Sickeningly familiar press attitudes already.
Without Sterling and Rashford, Saka is going to cop a lot of this isn't he?
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Post by Frog on Jun 9, 2024 8:00:14 GMT
They have already started on Mainoo as well, I'm sure he will be the one to miss a penalty at some point.
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Post by Syrette on Jun 9, 2024 8:49:56 GMT
Nonsense. I for one look forward to the wave of jingoism that will accompany us winning the Euros.
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Post by rawshark on Jun 9, 2024 8:58:32 GMT
It’s basically just setting up every racist moron to have an open season on him. Poor kid.
Headlines should read “It was a fucking friendly, dickheads”
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Post by peekconfusion on Jun 9, 2024 9:09:59 GMT
I genuinely don't get the Black Ice one. What am I missing?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2024 9:11:38 GMT
Nonsense. I for one look forward to the wave of jingoism that will accompany us winning the Euros. There were England fans on here that didn't want England to win the Euros last time because of the English fans getting to celebrate. It was ridiculous. I do think one of them was Geefe though. |
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Post by Dougs on Jun 9, 2024 12:04:57 GMT
I genuinely don't get the Black Ice one. What am I missing? We played Iceland and slipped up. Black Ice is slippy. On the surface. Together with the pic of Saka though, it could be taken entirely differently. |
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Post by rawshark on Jun 9, 2024 12:07:53 GMT
Between that and Farage it’s dog whistle city right now.
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Post by simple on Jun 9, 2024 12:16:50 GMT
Nonsense. I for one look forward to the wave of jingoism that will accompany us winning the Euros. There were England fans on here that didn't want England to win the Euros last time because of the English fans getting to celebrate. It was ridiculous. I do think one of them was Geefe though. I didn’t want them to not win but I think we all know that a very large minority of England fans were working very hard to get coked up and ruin it for everyone. There’s a Netflix doc about it and everything. It is tough with England as a plastic Scot* because the current team is very young, talented and likeable. At least in the past the awful fans were only cheering on John Terry so it made being a smug dickhead doing banter in the comments quite an easy position to hold. Wrighty is right to highlight what is happening there though. Tournaments really seem to encourage the worst instincts of the press. * Family is Scottish and we’ve had very few opportunities to cheer since the 1999 Five Nations |
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 9, 2024 12:39:20 GMT
I genuinely don't get the Black Ice one. What am I missing? |
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Post by RobEG on Jun 9, 2024 13:11:30 GMT
I genuinely don't get the Black Ice one. What am I missing? We played Iceland and slipped up. Black Ice is slippy. On the surface. Together with the pic of Saka though, it could be taken entirely differently. Yeah not particularly subtle. I’d obviously love us to win, especially though with Saka scoring the winner in the final. Maybe it might make those fuckers enjoy it slightly less, having already set him up to be their fall guy. |
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Post by Dougs on Jun 9, 2024 13:21:29 GMT
Same as it ever was innit.
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Post by jono62 on Jun 9, 2024 14:19:01 GMT
Yeah, I see Watkins got a lot of stick for not scoring, yet Kane didn't get anywhere as much.
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Post by rawshark on Jun 9, 2024 15:02:56 GMT
They’re all wicked players. If they weren’t guys like Grealish and Maguire wouldn’t have been left on the bench.
The loss might have been as simple as having Pickford take a day off. You need these matches to figure out who gels with who.
But… it was the most boring fucking thing in the world to watch. That much is true.
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Post by hicksy on Jun 10, 2024 6:46:51 GMT
Anything less than reaching the semi finals would seem like an under performance I would wager.
Always have hope for England but nagging reality also reminds me that winning it seems unlikely.
Still something to watch to remind ourselves (again) that top end prem games are almost always better than 95% of international games played…
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Post by rammy18 on Jun 10, 2024 10:26:18 GMT
Anything less than reaching the semi finals would seem like an under performance I would wager. Always have hope for England but nagging reality also reminds me that winning it seems unlikely. Still something to watch to remind ourselves (again) that top end prem games are almost always better than 95% of international games played… For quality, sure. International teams are never as slick. But for drama, tension and what’s at stake…other way round for me. Bloody love international tournaments…even if UEFA and FIFA are doing their best to fuck it up with 24/48 teams, so killing a lot of the stakes/tension during the group stages |
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Post by cristar on Jun 11, 2024 10:17:10 GMT
I always want England to do well, even though I am not English. Just because it's the players I watch every week in the Prem and I pretty much support all the British Isles teams.
In our work competition I do have England going out in the Quarters to Italy on pens..
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 11, 2024 12:34:44 GMT
Question is, is it worth me waking up at 4am for England vs Serbia?
What are the odds of that being a fun game?
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Post by monkman5000 on Jun 11, 2024 13:07:22 GMT
0400/1
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 11, 2024 13:56:15 GMT
It's quite easy to work out : you get up at 04:00 and it'll be the absolute worst game you've seen for ages. You don't and it'll be a stunning start to the tournament and so exciting you'll forget your tiredness for the rest of the day. It's not going to be the second. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 11, 2024 14:02:15 GMT
That's what usually happens. Or I wait until the later, more important games in the tournament and then they're out before I actually get to watch one.
Serbia, Denmark and Slovenia don't sound like they're going to generate any particularly exciting games. Or is that unfair?
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 11, 2024 19:13:57 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Jun 11, 2024 19:49:56 GMT
This is immense.
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Post by rawshark on Jun 11, 2024 20:59:31 GMT
Didn’t realise until today but I’ll be in Madrid for Spain’s opening game. Should be fun.
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