malek86
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Post by malek86 on Jun 12, 2023 17:14:59 GMT
Finished this yesterday. Overall I really enjoyed it and quite liked that it's less RPG than the sequel, think I prefer not having all the cyber module stuff to worry about on balance and just being able to use what I want. I do think they could have done with some more QoL when it came to progression, it's a little obtuse as to how you're meant to progress at some points. I think inventory space was a little on the low side as well thanks to the junk mechanics. Some kind of QoL to auto scrap stuff would have helped a bit, but a tiny bit more space by default would have too. I appreciate them seemingly keeping to the layout of the original game's maps, but IMO they could have done with either spacing things out a little more to improve the maps' readability, or provided a floor toggle for each deck as it gets a bit silly when you have areas passing over others. The very end sequence played a bit like a wet fart. But otherwise great. Glad to hear they were faithful to the original, though yeah, it kinda sucks that they didn't bother to fix some of its issues. For what it's worth, inventory space was much more limited (but on the other hand you had a separate inventory for each category such as weapons, consumables, and misc items). The map was hard to decipher at times, though you could at least write notes on it. The devs had obviously progressed from their work on Ultima Underworld. Even if the game is action at heart, these are the RPG trappings it inherited from UU1. How long did it take you? It's actually a pretty long game iirc, even knowing what to do it still easily takes 10 hours... I think my first time was 15+ hours. But from what I could see of the demo, the combat and animations are slower in this remake, so it might end up being even longer. Very much convinced that I'm going to pick it up next month. |
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Post by Duffking on Jun 12, 2023 19:27:44 GMT
Writing notes on the map would have been a huge benefit for me, markers alone isn't enough. Weird they didn't include it.
Took me 23 hours according to Steam, though I did let it idle for a little while.
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zephro
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Post by zephro on Jun 12, 2023 21:37:49 GMT
I'm near(ish) to the end. Given System Shock 2, Thief, Deus Ex are like my Ur games. This feels like a step towards them, rather than a think I'd fight somebody over being the best game ever made.
It's a bit too shootery for my liking. I can see where it all came from though.
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Jun 13, 2023 11:17:07 GMT
At the time it came out it was this mid-place between Ultima Underworld and Doom, like Doom for smart people. Or Underworld for dumb people. I absolutely loved it I thought the second game was great but overrated in comparison. System Shock invented so much.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jun 13, 2023 12:57:36 GMT
Doom for nerds more like
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Jun 13, 2023 14:47:14 GMT
Imagine John Carmack in 1993.
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Jun 13, 2023 14:48:25 GMT
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Post by dasbooter on Jun 17, 2023 13:52:34 GMT
Ok hands up if you accidentally destroyed Earth on Level 2.. then remembered you'd done the same thing back in 1994.
I'm a bit lost on the Research level. I think I need to find X22, there's a door somewhere that needs a 3 digit code.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 17, 2023 14:03:14 GMT
Yup, hands up here  Do you want the code or you going to look for it? |
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Post by dasbooter on Jun 17, 2023 14:06:23 GMT
Yup, hands up here Do you want the code or you going to look for it? I got a code through Cyberspace but it didn't seem to be that one. Maybe a hint where to look for it? Ta |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 17, 2023 14:14:35 GMT
Everyone last week: This is the best game ever! Everyone this week: It's a bit hard! I don't know what to do!  |
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Post by Duffking on Jun 17, 2023 14:21:57 GMT
Yup, hands up here Do you want the code or you going to look for it? I got a code through Cyberspace but it didn't seem to be that one. Maybe a hint where to look for it? Ta Getting X-22 doesn't need a code, but the 3 digit thing you're thinking of is probably the one in the same room as the cyberspace terminal in research.
It's not on a PDA or message though.
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Post by dasbooter on Jun 17, 2023 14:25:58 GMT
Yeah I got that one off the monitor. Hmm I will have another nosey around next time, it's very easy to get lost in this.
Could really do with some more heals, credits and ammo. Enjoying it though
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Post by quadfather on Jun 17, 2023 14:29:22 GMT
Ah ok, I know which code you have now from cyberspace. You'll use that later.
For now though you need to be in the gamma quadrant on research and make sure you have the science access key card with you when you go there
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Post by dasbooter on Jun 17, 2023 14:34:48 GMT
Ah ok, I know which code you have now from cyberspace. You'll use that later. For now though you need to be in the gamma quadrant on research and make sure you have the science access key card with you when you go there :-) Got that card. Gamma it is, cheers |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 17, 2023 14:38:11 GMT
Cool Fuck, I want to play more of this now but I'm stuck on diablo and zelda ffs! |
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Post by dasbooter on Jun 17, 2023 15:00:40 GMT
Yass got the X22!
Forgot about that biohazard zone cos I had no suit or heals. Just ran in there and made it out with 1 health point.
Then died as soon as I got to the reactor level (which I'm guessing is where I go next)
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Post by quadfather on Jun 17, 2023 16:00:37 GMT
Bingo! And oh dear |
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Ulythium
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 12, 2024 17:09:01 GMT
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wunty
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Post by wunty on Mar 12, 2024 20:26:18 GMT
Fuck yeah!
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Post by quadfather on Mar 12, 2024 20:34:35 GMT
Ooo, that's quite exciting.
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Post by Humperfunk on Mar 12, 2024 20:51:21 GMT
Brilliant news, been tempted on Steam Deck for ages but waited in the hope of a console release, bosh!
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wunty
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Post by wunty on Mar 12, 2024 22:37:37 GMT
It’s been soooo long since it came out for pc I’d actually given up hope. Fucking LOVE system shock so this is most excellent.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 13, 2024 5:35:59 GMT
Nice.
I kinda missed the boat on the PC version, despite really enjoying the demo. The PC one is 50% off in a bunch of places at the moment so maybe I'll grab that and play along with you console folks.
/desperate attempt to be trendy
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Post by Vandelay on Mar 13, 2024 8:53:49 GMT
I really should get the PC version sometime. It just slipped by me.
Should avoid temptation with 50% deals though. My decision to stop buying new games until I actually finished off some of the backlog of games had already suffered yesterday when I bought Balatro and Dark Forces Remastered.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 13, 2024 9:10:39 GMT
Ah, Dark Forces Remastered being out (!) probably explains why a bunch of places have been doing sales on various Star Wars Collections that include the OG Dark Forces.
I'm not going to pick up SS just yet, as I assume it'll have time to go on sale again before May, if not drop further.
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Gruf
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Post by Gruf on Mar 13, 2024 13:17:19 GMT
Been on my Steam wishlist for a while, I would prefer to play on PS5, so this is great
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Post by dasbooter on Mar 16, 2024 8:06:08 GMT
I played this for the first time since June after seeing this thread pop up again. Got the X-22 and activated the safety override :-)
I need to ammo up before going any further though cos I'm down to just the lead pipe with too many big cyborgs about. I've missed the laser rapier somewhere, probably on the maintenance level.
The atmosphere is great, I shat myself at one point when Shodan ambushed me.
Also, I had no idea about the Dark Forces Remaster. Heck yeah I'll take that (once it's down to £15).
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Post by quadfather on Mar 16, 2024 13:19:07 GMT
I can't for the life of me remember where the laser rapier is. My brain is now mixing up system 1 and 2 so I'd have to load it up again. I might as well wait for the ps5 version and start again. Again.
Dark forces remastered you say? Intriguing
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Post by LegendaryApe on Mar 16, 2024 13:22:07 GMT
I haven't played System Shock (there might have been a demo that was on a magazine at the time).
Would the first still hold up? I'd be getting it on PS5
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