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Post by wunty on Jun 8, 2023 12:07:42 GMT
Ha, I'll wait. Would love a release date though, that's the worst part. Not knowing when!
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 8, 2023 13:42:59 GMT
If that's good then good for them.
I imagine they'll need a hell of a lot more than $3M in revenue to cover development costs though, so I hope it has a long tail. It seems to be getting great word of mouth.
Does anyone know if the save game from the demo will carry over to the main game?
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Post by Ulythium on Jun 8, 2023 15:33:39 GMT
Reading this thread is killing me.
Hear bloody hear 
I'm really glad it's going over well, though - for one thing, I do enjoy seeing you lovely lot having fun with a game, and for another, a strong reception on PC should ensure that the mooted console release actually happens at some point. (Given how long it spent in production, I half-feared it'd crash and burn on PC, then get cancelled altogether on console.)
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Post by quadfather on Jun 8, 2023 16:01:43 GMT
Have no fear, I'll be continuing my joyful commentary updates out loud as I play to spread the word \0/
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Post by quadfather on Jun 8, 2023 16:03:26 GMT
Also, I found a severed head of one of the staff. You can't vaporise it like other junk so maybe it's actually to do with something. Anyway I've popped it into storage for now.
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Post by barchetta on Jun 8, 2023 16:15:37 GMT
Just bought it myself after enjoying vthe demo. Seems the same won't transfer though. No worries, I can enjoy the level all over again!
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Post by Duffking on Jun 8, 2023 16:25:28 GMT
I'm quite enjoying the puzzles, the "fill the bar" ones are tough but once I stopped trying to plow into them randomly and solve them logically I solve them relatively quickly. Though they could be tutorialised MUCH better.
I have disabled the laser (though I had to look up how, I would not have found the code otherwise, which again in a game with a lot of QoL fixes is a very strange design choice), and am currently exploring storage.
Obligatory "fuck the flying virus blob looking things". Though I seem to have a lot of dragons breath ammo now, which helps. Having not played the original version, only SS2, I've been surprised how much shooting there is. Though maybe I shouldn't have been given the proximity with which it released to Doom.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 8, 2023 16:43:27 GMT
I'm quite enjoying the puzzles, the "fill the bar" ones are tough but once I stopped trying to plow into them randomly and solve them logically I solve them relatively quickly. Though they could be tutorialised MUCH better. I have disabled the laser (though I had to look up how, I would not have found the code otherwise, which again in a game with a lot of QoL fixes is a very strange design choice), and am currently exploring storage. Obligatory "fuck the flying virus blob looking things". Though I seem to have a lot of dragons breath ammo now, which helps. Having not played the original version, only SS2, I've been surprised how much shooting there is. Though maybe I shouldn't have been given the proximity with which it released to Doom. Yeah, the first puzzles stumped me for far too long, then I suddenly got it. Agree they were pretty obtuse without a tutorial. I read an interview where they were discussing which old bits to leave in and which new bits should be done and I guess they had to decide one way or another. It's a bit off-putting sometimes, like when you load it up next day and go, "right, so where am I fucking going again, and why?". But I guess I don't notice it as much having played the original quite a few times. I notice the new stuff more tbh. There is a lot of shooting isn't there  and indeed to fuck those flying fucks. I'm alternating between an upgraded sparcbeam/laser rapier and an upgraded pistol at the minute with the occasional very liberal use of the shotgun and frag grenades. Satisfying. |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 8, 2023 16:44:48 GMT
Taking out 4 annoying space hoppers with 1 emp grenade doesn't get old either apparently.
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Post by zephro on Jun 8, 2023 17:59:21 GMT
I'm enjoy it a lot so far. Only thing I got stuck on was getting in to Research Central, as one of the doors is permanently fucked and I spent ages trying to un-fuck it, then looked at tutorials about the original where the door isn't fucked, only to find out there's a second door I'd not noticed.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 8, 2023 18:05:39 GMT
Yeah there's lots of door action going on for sure!
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Post by malek86 on Jun 8, 2023 18:34:01 GMT
Obligatory "fuck the flying virus blob looking things". Though I seem to have a lot of dragons breath ammo now, which helps. Having not played the original version, only SS2, I've been surprised how much shooting there is. Though maybe I shouldn't have been given the proximity with which it released to Doom. Yeah, a lot of people who have only played SS2 think SS1 must have been similar to that game, but it's really more like Doom as an immersive sim. That's why I love it though. |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 8, 2023 19:07:24 GMT
Yeah it's definitely got that vibe. I still can't get over how they've managed to update it but still retain the original atmosphere. It's truly a great feat
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Post by Duffking on Jun 8, 2023 22:57:50 GMT
Storage done, flight deck now. Got tons of SMG, shotgun ammo and just got an assault rifle.
I'm quite conservative with the mag pulse ammo though. Probably as I guess I found a secret one early and didn't get much extra ammo for it for ages.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 9, 2023 12:53:32 GMT
Same, I think I bought a clip for it as backup but haven't used it since as no other ammo came about.
It's using valuable inventory space too. I might stick it in storage for a bit
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Post by Duffking on Jun 10, 2023 14:36:04 GMT
The stuff I have to do right now post executive is not obvious at all lol. Had a vague idea but had to look some of it up.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 11, 2023 10:52:29 GMT
I can't remember the end much. I remember looking around for the final code number.
No, hang on, that's ss2
Er
Right, I definitely can't remember much past the mutagen
Also, there's a patch out for it that sorts some bugs out now
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Post by malek86 on Jun 11, 2023 12:00:54 GMT
There are some great bits after the mutagen too. One that stuck to my mind is when you rig the antenna to blow up, and Shodan locks the door behind you. Even with the revival chamber activated, which wasn't all that easy to find on that floor iirc, it was a real "oh crap" moment. I don't think most people were in the right state of mind to realize you could just use a probe on the door (if you had it), or a reflex patch to quickly solve the puzzle. I certainly didn't the first time (luckily I had the chamber activated). . The combat ramps up a lot too. It gets even shootier. Good thing there's lots of ammo around. I don't think I ever ran out, not even close, and not even on the max difficulty level. |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 11, 2023 12:10:22 GMT
Good stuff, sounds cool. I'm getting confused between 1 and 2 because I know you need the codes from the monitors in 2, but I'm also doing that in this one too. Can't remember.
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Post by zephro on Jun 11, 2023 13:46:11 GMT
Small quality of life improvement they could make. Save logs somewhere, I keep not 100% paying attention to things that aren't actually in the audio logs and losing my place.
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Post by addyb on Jun 11, 2023 14:03:07 GMT
I really don't remember playing this back in the day. Sorely tempted to buy on payday though.
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Post by barchetta on Jun 11, 2023 14:54:21 GMT
I'm enjoying this. Whilst it does appear to have increasing skills/abilities, I don't have to contend with a bewildering array of skill trees and dolly-clothing.
I am regretting not grabbing more trash and recycling earlier in order to purchase more health packs.
Also my first mouse/keyboard game for yonks and I'm finding my keyboard skills are a little rusty. Need an EMP in a hurry? Here, use this med stim instead.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 11, 2023 15:08:10 GMT
Hah, yes, after a few beers or so, I have to admit I do tend to fling entirely the wrong item out randomly |
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Post by malek86 on Jun 11, 2023 15:15:09 GMT
Very much tempted to buy this myself next month, but I'll download the demo again so I can see how my laptop copes. While I'm sure it can run it well enough at max power, the heat in the summer here means I don't want to push it too hard... lest my room becomes a furnace...
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Post by quadfather on Jun 11, 2023 15:31:22 GMT
Seems its pretty good with specs though. I've got a 2060 with a ryzen 3 or something and it runs fine. Not sure how that translates though
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Post by malek86 on Jun 11, 2023 15:43:21 GMT
Seems its pretty good with specs though. I've got a 2060 with a ryzen 3 or something and it runs fine. Not sure how that translates though Heh, my 35W-capped GTX 1650 wishes it were that fast. And realistically, if I want to avoid the subsequent heat bubble, I have to keep the card to 30W max in the summer. I could also just wait until I get my desktop back, but that might take a few months still... DF says the game on Low loses a lot of its visual appeal. Let's try the demo and see. |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 11, 2023 15:59:21 GMT
If you can get it to medium, I reckon it'll be fine
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Post by malek86 on Jun 11, 2023 16:56:22 GMT
Runs at a stable 60fps on 720p and medium settings. Looks decent too. It doesn't even max out my card, which is good. I could go a bit higher res, but then the GPU does get a bit hot. Also I have no idea if later, larger areas would be heavier, especially the groves and the security level.
Still, seems worth a shot.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 11, 2023 19:04:41 GMT
I've got it on medium and it's absolutely fine. There was a df thing that said that low is noticeable between medium, but then it wasn't that big of an improvement going from medium to high, or even ultra, so I don't reckon you're missing anything major. Enjoy!
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Post by Duffking on Jun 12, 2023 11:33:41 GMT
Finished this yesterday. Overall I really enjoyed it and quite liked that it's less RPG than the sequel, think I prefer not having all the cyber module stuff to worry about on balance and just being able to use what I want.
I do think they could have done with some more QoL when it came to progression, it's a little obtuse as to how you're meant to progress at some points. I think inventory space was a little on the low side as well thanks to the junk mechanics. Some kind of QoL to auto scrap stuff would have helped a bit, but a tiny bit more space by default would have too.
I appreciate them seemingly keeping to the layout of the original game's maps, but IMO they could have done with either spacing things out a little more to improve the maps' readability, or provided a floor toggle for each deck as it gets a bit silly when you have areas passing over others.
The very end sequence played a bit like a wet fart. But otherwise great.
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and indeed to fuck those flying fucks. I'm alternating between an upgraded sparcbeam/laser rapier and an upgraded pistol at the minute with the occasional very liberal use of the shotgun and frag grenades. Satisfying.
