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Post by simple on Jan 2, 2023 21:33:51 GMT
I can’t remember if I said it only here or in the old place but a big part of the appeal of Disco Elysium for me was how much it feels like a continuation of the vibe a lot of Vertigo type comics had
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Post by damagedinc on Jan 2, 2023 23:02:39 GMT
How is Saga holding up? I have the first 3 or 4 collected ones, but haven't got any for a while. I was quite enjoying it though. Still decent storytelling? It's great Not read the latest bunch after the 3 year hiatus. Everything up to issue #54 is brilliant.
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Post by mikeck on Jan 3, 2023 0:57:45 GMT
The new trade for Saga has been out for a while (I don't keep up with individual issues of anything these days) and the quality is still there for sure. Love it.
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Post by Happenstance on Jan 3, 2023 9:55:17 GMT
Debating what to order next. I'd like to fill out the DC side of my omnibus collection and was thinking about Geoff John's Flash or the Batman No Man's Land omnis but the majority of those would be upgrades from my trades instead of new purchases. These are the books I currently have on order:
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 3, 2023 11:59:08 GMT
I'm confused. Why are you putting spoiler tags on things that aren't spoilers???
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Post by Happenstance on Jan 3, 2023 12:00:00 GMT
I'm confused. Why are you putting spoiler tags on things that aren't spoilers??? Just using it to keep the thread from getting overwhelmed with images. Probably made more sense in that first post when the photos were bigger.
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Post by dfunked on Jan 3, 2023 12:00:22 GMT
I like it when people do that with images. Saved cluttering up the thread and you can just view the spoiler if you're interested.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 3, 2023 12:01:26 GMT
I'm confused. Why are you putting spoiler tags on things that aren't spoilers??? Just using it to keep the thread from getting overwhelmed with images. Probably made more sense in that first post when the photos were bigger. Oh right. Well...as you were.
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Post by Happenstance on Jan 3, 2023 12:05:37 GMT
Anyway, Book One of Saga just arrived so I'm looking forward to getting started on that. Just have to finish the 52 omnibus first which is a pretty big one.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jan 3, 2023 21:53:25 GMT
Anything published by Slave Labor Graphics in the late 90s to early/mid 2000s was gold.
Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, Squee!, Bear, Serenity Rose, Mister Blank, etc.
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Post by Onny on Jan 4, 2023 8:56:34 GMT
Fully agree, although I think these days Disney might sue anyone who makes it I’ll echo the comments about Ennis made here; I also loved Preacher when it came out but then Crossed is abhorrent to me. It is interesting how time changes things; I reread V For Vendetta recently and it feels _more_ timely now than when I read it in the 90s. I might even prefer it to Watchmen these days.
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Post by simple on Jan 4, 2023 10:48:20 GMT
I think V has aged much better than Watchmen as V is about society and Watchmen is about comics/superheroes as a concept and medium. A lot of the things Watchmen comments upon aren’t that relevant anymore or have been superseded by the books it inspired.
Which isn’t to say its a bad book by any means, its still great, I just think V for Vendetta is more relevant today.
Although both suffer slightly from the Fight Club problem where thick bad people have tried to appropriate them inappropriately having misunderstood what Moore was trying to tell us. I suppose that’s always going to be an issue for any edgy property.
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Post by kal on Jan 4, 2023 10:50:22 GMT
Be interested in what you think has superseded it? Watchmen still remains the smartest and most interesting take on ‘Superheroes if they were an actual real thing’ imo.
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Post by Happenstance on Jan 4, 2023 14:00:55 GMT
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Post by simple on Jan 4, 2023 19:33:42 GMT
Be interested in what you think has superseded it? Watchmen still remains the smartest and most interesting take on ‘Superheroes if they were an actual real thing’ imo. Superseded is probably the wrong word for it. More that the influence its had has slightly eroded its distinctiveness. Its violence became the norm for anyone trying to be edgy. Its deconstruction of superhero stories has given us stuff like Incredibles, Invincible and The Boys plus a lot of mainstream heroes strips addressing similar ground in its wake. Even its implicit commentary on comics as a form has been taken up elsewhere. Plus its very much a commentary on where comics where in the 80s. Like I say, its a great book and obviously an influential one but, largely thanks to it, comics have moved on in a way that renders some of what it does a bit dated now. Even though it remains a fun read (and a horribly shite film) I think avoids this by already being a swashbuckling Alexandre Duma type story dressed up in modern get up. I guess its more like listening to a classic album and recognising why it was so important and enjoying the songs today but recognising that its a product of its time for me now.
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Post by kal on Jan 4, 2023 19:43:34 GMT
I get ya. I read it before its influence was really made so it’s impossible for me to not see it through that original lens. However while it may not feel as utterly original today, I still think it approaches it in a way that nobody else has done. It may have lost some impact but I don’t really see how it’s dated, other than being very clearly set at a certain point in time but that’s not the same thing.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 4, 2023 20:39:30 GMT
It’s the Blair Witch of Superhero deconstruction. It set the blueprint and gave us a million imitators so it does have a tough time feeling fresh.
Kind of like the grim dark 90s era, they just went wild for it in the 2000s so it’s no wonder everyone is kind of sick of it. Yes, we get it but there isn’t actually anything wrong with superman saving a cat up a tree.
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Post by Happenstance on Jan 6, 2023 9:40:28 GMT
Anyone read Sleeper by Ed Brubaker before? The omnibus has just come back in stock and people seem to be recommending it.
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Post by Saul1138 on Jan 7, 2023 3:39:19 GMT
I still enjoy a reread of Watchmen. Maybe reading it when it first released cements it’s impact. As others have said, it can get lost in the sea of imitation nowadays. But I still think it is special. May read it again after dinner. That or Zenith. That period of British talent is fantastic though.
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Post by simple on Jan 8, 2023 18:26:08 GMT
Anyone read The Many Deaths of Liala Starr, We Only Find Them When They’re Dead or Something is Killing The Children?
Had all three recommended by a friend as something I’d be into as a casual 2000ad and horror comic reader
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Post by Happenstance on Jan 8, 2023 18:29:34 GMT
Anyone read The Many Deaths of Liala Starr, We Only Find Them When They’re Dead or Something is Killing The Children? Had all three recommended by a friend as something I’d be into as a casual 2000ad and horror comic reader I haven't read it yet but Something is Killing the Children is on my list to buy soon. Heard it's supposed to be very good.
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Post by Onny on Jan 8, 2023 18:30:59 GMT
Although both suffer slightly from the Fight Club problem where thick bad people have tried to appropriate them inappropriately having misunderstood what Moore was trying to tell us. I suppose that’s always going to be an issue for any edgy property. Which is why I was delighted when the Watchmen TV series had white supremacists worshipping Rorschach.
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Post by LockeTribal on Jan 8, 2023 19:08:49 GMT
Anyone read The Many Deaths of Liala Starr, We Only Find Them When They’re Dead or Something is Killing The Children? Had all three recommended by a friend as something I’d be into as a casual 2000ad and horror comic reader I've been reading We Only Find Them... And can recommend it. Lovely art and interesting space opera. My only complaint is that it jumps around in time quite a bit and reading it month to month can leave me a bit lost. I would say it would work quite well as a trade or read all together. I have The Many Deaths of Laila Star on my reading pile but haven't got to it yet. I haven't finished it yet but I'll throw in a recommendation for the current Tom King/Greg Smallwood The Human Target. Story and art work perfectly with each other.
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Post by Happenstance on Jan 8, 2023 20:59:46 GMT
Just finished the first Saga deluxe book. I can see why everyone heaps so much praise onto this series, it sucks you in really quickly. I've got book two and three on my shelf but I think I might spread them out a bit and move onto another backlog book for now. Thinking maybe Batman omnibus by Synder vol.1 or Justice League New 52 omnibus vol.1 before both of their vol.2's arrive (hopefully) next week.
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Post by simple on Jan 10, 2023 19:11:05 GMT
Since I just watched Dredd this afternoon time to mourn this not becoming a game or tv show again
There’s a book coming out next month about all the ways Judge Dredd has predicted modern policing methods too. Its an interesting premise but I’m not sure if I’m committed enough to read 300+ pages of it.
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Post by simple on Jan 11, 2023 15:27:58 GMT
Awesome collection, makes me think of my own still in storage. On an aside just went into a comics store I always used to go into when I lived in England and my god 3/4 of it is just merch, manga and funko dolls with the tiniest shelf space for actual graphic novels and comics. I get why it's like this now but Christ, it's depressing. Just visited Travelling Man Newcastle today and its gone this route now too. Only with big boardgames instead of Funko. They used to be the place for indie comics and instead there’s like one bookcase of Marvel/DC and not much else. At least Forbidden Planet has used its basement to keep a safe space for the people who want to read normal comics separate from the weebs and teens upstairs.
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Post by mikeck on Jan 11, 2023 15:32:32 GMT
Since I just watched Dredd this afternoon time to mourn this not becoming a game or tv show again There’s a book coming out next month about all the ways Judge Dredd has predicted modern policing methods too. Its an interesting premise but I’m not sure if I’m committed enough to read 300+ pages of it. I've got that book pre-ordered, looking forward to it (In a strange, it'll be scary as fuck kinda way)
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 11, 2023 15:39:35 GMT
Aren't they making the Mega City One TV show?
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Post by simple on Jan 11, 2023 15:44:11 GMT
It all went a bit quiet when Covid hit but since they bought themselves a Mandalorian digiboard soundstage thing I hope they still plan on using it
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Post by wunty on Jan 11, 2023 15:56:24 GMT
One thing I really need to look for again is a replacement for 30 Days of Night. I lent it to a former colleague and never got it back and its since been republished with a new, worse, cover. Mine was one of these and its so much better than what they used for the newer editions. You can have mine if you want.
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