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Post by Dougs on Jun 8, 2022 15:57:34 GMT
Ms Marvel episode 1 seems alright. It doesn’t feel like much happens/I was a bit bored but maybe it gets better. It probably needed more than 1 episode to go up. Took me ages to work out you weren't talking about Mrs Maisel. |
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 8, 2022 18:27:06 GMT
Really enjoyed it, very busy on screen with some similar styling to Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, which is very much given the nod considering what's on TV at one point.
Good performances from everyone especially the lead and I was disappointed that there was only one episode out today.
Kamala Khan was the highlight in the Avengers game and she looks like she'll be fun to watch in this.
The MCU really needs to sort out its aversion to having Inhumans in it though, no-one cares about that terrible show, but it seems a little silly not to get it over and done with. Going to be tricky to bring Quake into the MCU as has been rumoured for ages if they don't.
I'm still puzzled at just how the physics of Ant-Man's head worked...
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 8, 2022 20:06:59 GMT
I see the neckbeards are out in force review bombing this.
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Post by Saul1138 on Jun 8, 2022 21:02:52 GMT
Really enjoyed it, very busy on screen with some similar styling to Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, which is very much given the nod considering what's on TV at one point. Good performances from everyone especially the lead and I was disappointed that there was only one episode out today. Kamala Khan was the highlight in the Avengers game and she looks like she'll be fun to watch in this. The MCU really needs to sort out its aversion to having Inhumans in it though, no-one cares about that terrible show, but it seems a little silly not to get it over and done with. Going to be tricky to bring Quake into the MCU as has been rumoured for ages if they don't. I'm still puzzled at just how the physics of Ant-Man's head worked... Sure the MCU hates the Inhumans, they only gave them a series, a major character and plot point in AoS, and one of them a really, really funny part in the last Dr. Strange film. After they tried to kill the Mutants in the comics. Yet in the MCU, we have had several mutant characters that are no longer mutants, and token cater for the disabled in Dr. Strange 2, by making them acceptable to their universes leading heroes. You, good sir, are the inhuman for supporting this line of conversation. No, I really cannot do it. |
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Post by simple on Jun 8, 2022 22:59:01 GMT
I loved that first episode of Ms Marvel. Felt fresh, had energy, gave us some flair and distinctiveness away from what most MCU productions have settled into.
I was looking forward to it anyway but as a first episode I didn’t expect it to be quite that fun.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 8, 2022 23:05:44 GMT
Really enjoyed it, very busy on screen with some similar styling to Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, which is very much given the nod considering what's on TV at one point. Good performances from everyone especially the lead and I was disappointed that there was only one episode out today. Kamala Khan was the highlight in the Avengers game and she looks like she'll be fun to watch in this. The MCU really needs to sort out its aversion to having Inhumans in it though, no-one cares about that terrible show, but it seems a little silly not to get it over and done with. Going to be tricky to bring Quake into the MCU as has been rumoured for ages if they don't. I'm still puzzled at just how the physics of Ant-Man's head worked... Sure the MCU hates the Inhumans, they only gave them a series, a major character and plot point in AoS, and one of them a really, really funny part in the last Dr. Strange film. After they tried to kill the Mutants in the comics. Yet in the MCU, we have had several mutant characters that are no longer mutants, and token cater for the disabled in Dr. Strange 2, by making them acceptable to their universes leading heroes. You, good sir, are the inhuman for supporting this line of conversation. No, I really cannot do it. Errr...calm down? |
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 8, 2022 23:25:45 GMT
Well quite.
The only Inhuman that's canonically been in the MCU was Black Bolt from another universe, the non-Disney+ TV shows have pretty much been ditched. The Netflix characters that have popped up in the MCU may or may not be the same as the ones that came before, we don't know yet but I'd bet they're just the MCU universe's versions and not the Netflix ones.
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Post by aubergine on Jun 9, 2022 0:01:10 GMT
I was pretty bored by the slow pace of Ms Marvel. That should hopefully pick up since she finally put her magic nega band on. Most surprising part was teen girl getting smashed by Giant Thor’s Hammer but also surviving that. Seems all humans inherited Wilson Fisk’s new rubberised cartoon invulnerability after Black Widow. |
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Post by Saul1138 on Jun 9, 2022 23:17:32 GMT
Sure the MCU hates the Inhumans, they only gave them a series, a major character and plot point in AoS, and one of them a really, really funny part in the last Dr. Strange film. After they tried to kill the Mutants in the comics. Yet in the MCU, we have had several mutant characters that are no longer mutants, and token cater for the disabled in Dr. Strange 2, by making them acceptable to their universes leading heroes. You, good sir, are the inhuman for supporting this line of conversation. No, I really cannot do it. Errr...calm down? Apologies for that. In my head it was a witty parody reply in the style of people supporting one shitty thing, by posting something shitty that the other person favours themself. The last line was me realising that it didn’t work, shouldn’t have posted it. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 9, 2022 23:18:50 GMT
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Post by 😎 on Jun 9, 2022 23:21:32 GMT
Seems odd timing to do that given Hurt’s recent death.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 23:30:49 GMT
That's a wild URL. I thought it was gonna be about someone's actual suicide.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 9, 2022 23:31:35 GMT
Just a general comment - Marvel just need to take a step back and not bother looking at the interconnectedness that closely, just look to sprinkle a few seeds in here and there.
Their greatest moment was "phase 1" really. Those films weren't massively connected, just a few subtle moments here and there.
Trying to shoehorn everything together so we can go "wow crossover!!" is what's made the DCU fail. We just need time for things to breathe a bit and be their own thing.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 10, 2022 8:55:57 GMT
The DCU failed because there wasn’t a single good film as part of it, a couple were almost ok.
They could do with slowing the connectivity down a bit and focus a bit more on a smaller core group like they did before. At the moment it feels like there’s more focus on the fringes, but maybe that’s deliberate. Do that then have a couple of films with all of them in it like Avengers and it becomes more coherent again.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 10, 2022 10:59:51 GMT
Ms Marvel Episode 1 was a lot of fun, though I don't think they've shown enough yet to get a clear idea on what the main storyline is going to be. Hopefully it continues to be good. Seems like a bad idea, if only because it's now going to come across as a massive Suicide Squad rip off. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2022 14:15:59 GMT
Which itself is ironic as both of the Suicide Squad films were looked at as DC trying to do their own Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 10, 2022 14:18:23 GMT
The circle of life.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 10, 2022 14:22:07 GMT
Which itself is ironic as both of the Suicide Squad films were looked at as DC trying to do their own Guardians of the Galaxy. And ultimately they didn't succeed even without the irony of James Gunn directing the sequel. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 10, 2022 14:28:12 GMT
Marvel have been quite good at getting in before DC, meaning that even when the original might have been DC, they still came across as being an MCU copy.
Seems odd for Marvel to risk making the same mistake now.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 10, 2022 14:31:18 GMT
Marvel have been quite good at getting in before DC, meaning that even when the original might have been DC, they still came across as being an MCU copy. Seems odd for Marvel to risk making the same mistake now. I don't think the general audience as a whole actually care, again regardless of the fact that Suicide Squad was clearly trying to emulate the feel of GotG if they actually pulled it off none of this 'you copied me' would actually matter. |
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Post by simple on Jun 10, 2022 17:48:50 GMT
Lets face it the size of the MCU machine now it could steamroller any DCU film it “copies” and no one but a handful of fanboys howling into the void will care
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 13, 2022 19:41:03 GMT
Wasn’t sure what to expect from Ms marvel, however that was a ton of fun and thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Jun 13, 2022 19:49:09 GMT
I have read that, for better or worse, its very much a YA/Tween show so temper your expectations accordingly. I definitely got that vibe. Felt very Glee/Dawson cheeky. It's got the two extremes of the internet raging. It's simultaneously the greatest and worst thing ever to exist. |
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Post by clemfandango on Jun 13, 2022 20:34:29 GMT
Lets face it the size of the MCU machine now it could steamroller any DCU film it “copies” and no one but a handful of fanboys howling into the void will care Is dc really that far behind now? Batman and joker are still AAA franchises aren’t they and superman, aqua man and Wonder Woman still fill cinemas. I would think they only need a run of decent movies to be right back up there? Shazam and the second suicide squad (plus peacemaker) are better than a lot of marvel stuff too. I actually prefer marvel but dc still carries quite a lot weight |
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Post by aubergine on Jun 14, 2022 2:00:58 GMT
I found the pacing of that first episode slow, but I actually really appreciate that they’re tilting towards young and culturally diverse viewers, and hopefully the pace picks up for me now that her powers kicked in.
Anyone complaining about it for racial / gender whatever reasons is a total cunt. I haven’t seen that first hand, but no doubt it’s out there.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 14, 2022 4:52:07 GMT
I kinda agree with the haters on the point that her finding her powers in a bracelet is a bit naff, but other than that it was lots of fun.
I didn't dislike the way they changed her powers as much as I expected. Rather than being too 'Green Lantern' it was more like they just externalized her stretching into the pink goop. Hopefully that allows the same kind of things, but is easier on the sfx.
One problem is that a lot of the haters are smart enough not to put overt complaints about gender or race into their reviews as they know that'll get them deleted. They'll blame it on a reasonably legitimate reason like the bracelet, but then just rate it as 0/10.
Which can make it hard to differentiate those who are legitimately over-upset about a small point from those who are just using that point as a cover.
Good fun so far though.
I actually didn't find it that slow paced. It was only really after it finished that I realized that nothing had really happened 'big plot wise'. But lots of fun stuff happened in the episode.
I'm not even sure if it needs a 'big plot'. Could be just Kamala navigating her life and family while having funny escapades and I'd be down with that.
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Post by Onny on Jun 14, 2022 6:05:35 GMT
What’s the deal with the bracelet? Shang Chi is pretty much the same, right?
I assume that, like his, hers was made by an Eternal or something..?
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 15, 2022 17:57:32 GMT
Another good episode, lots of non-superhero stuff and probably very educational for an audience that know very little about how Britain fucked up when the Partition happened. The mosque stuff was clearly written by someone hacked off with the status quo. The bracelet being the trigger and not the source of her powers is a good move too, I did wonder if that was the case and it means she can't just be de-powered by removing it. Kingo being name checked in the Bollywood talk was fun too. |
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Post by simple on Jun 16, 2022 10:32:55 GMT
Since origin stories are broadly boring in general I liked that there was a single “oh look there it” switch to give her powers then just move on back to the fun character stuff
The tweaks to make them energy based rather than physical makes total sense in the context of the MCU and it hasn’t radically transformed the character from what I understand so zero issue for me.
Its just a straight up good show so far.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 16, 2022 10:39:48 GMT
The tweaks to make them energy based rather than physical makes total sense in the context of the MCU and it hasn’t radically transformed the character from what I understand so zero issue for me. Cynically its also, presumably, much, much cheaper. |
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