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Post by Onny on Sept 1, 2021 15:09:43 GMT
Surprisingly grim! Best one so far IMO - hard to believe it’s in the same series as episode 2.
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Post by simple on Sept 1, 2021 18:08:26 GMT
Off the back of What If? Exceeding my expectations and someone reminding me of Batman Beyond in the DC thread, does anyone think Marvel would ever do a 2099 series?
It’d look really cool animated in the What If style and who didn’t love Spider-man and Punisher 2099?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 1, 2021 18:19:50 GMT
Off the back of What If? Exceeding my expectations and someone reminding me of Batman Beyond in the DC thread, does anyone think Marvel would ever do a 2099 series? It’d look really cool animated in the What If style and who didn’t love Spider-man and Punisher 2099? My joint favourite was Punisher 2099 and Doom 2099. Some of the others didn't really fare well, like Ghost Rider and X-Men. The most bizarre one was a Stan Lee character that he made specifically for that brand, Ravage 2099. |
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Post by simple on Sept 1, 2021 22:15:11 GMT
What If? Episode 4. Holy forking shirtballs! That was super dark and awesome, didn't think they'd go that far! Just caught up. Absolutely brilliant. I can’t believe it was only half an hour long. Fantastic. |
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Post by simple on Sept 1, 2021 22:17:42 GMT
Off the back of What If? Exceeding my expectations and someone reminding me of Batman Beyond in the DC thread, does anyone think Marvel would ever do a 2099 series? It’d look really cool animated in the What If style and who didn’t love Spider-man and Punisher 2099? My joint favourite was Punisher 2099 and Doom 2099. Some of the others didn't really fare well, like Ghost Rider and X-Men. The most bizarre one was a Stan Lee character that he made specifically for that brand, Ravage 2099. Yeah, X-Men 2099 was a real let down when they’re my favourites and it was broadly contemporary with Age of Apocalypse. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 1, 2021 23:30:37 GMT
The whole 2099 series really did nail the aspect of how corporations were above the law and owned every aspect of your life, how the 1% really could buy their way out of anything and the version of the police, Public Eye, were a subscription service. It was oddly prophetic even though we're not close to it in terms of date.
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 2, 2021 8:39:35 GMT
The only one of the What Ifs so far that have been disappointing is the very first one. All the rest have shown a lot more imagination. I’m still not the biggest fan of the animation style but it’s good enough.
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Post by britesparc on Sept 2, 2021 10:01:52 GMT
Just picking up on the Namor discussion from the previous page, he's been cast in the new Black Panther hasn't he? I try not to actively seek out rumours but I think the unofficial official synopsis for the film is some kind of Wakanda-Atlantis conflict.
Oh, and yeah, last night's What If was something pretty special.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 2, 2021 10:42:06 GMT
I didn't know that, just looked it up and it appears so. I hope they actually resist the desire to kill of the character as they often do with villains. I know he's not technically a full villain, more anti hero but you know what I mean.
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Post by Onny on Sept 2, 2021 11:56:35 GMT
In Endgame, during the “holo briefing”, Okoye mentions earthquakes under the sea - I wonder if this is an early reference to Namor? I did see chatter about it at the time. Interesting to see he’s confirmed!
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Post by beastmaster on Sept 2, 2021 13:15:52 GMT
Shang Chi is out tomorrow. A may have to double-bill this with The Suicide Squad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 13:17:20 GMT
I seen The Suicide Squad last night and thought it was superb. I'll say no more, as I've an overwhelming respect for thread content, and is this the Marvel thread, not the DC one.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 2, 2021 13:30:20 GMT
Shang Chi is out tomorrow. A may have to double-bill this with The Suicide Squad. So that's 3 marvel movies in 4 months. Properly going for it. |
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 2, 2021 14:05:38 GMT
Got a lawsuit to settle...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 16:30:40 GMT
the Dr strange What if was excellent, the 3rd one was fine, the others were not great
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 2, 2021 17:11:06 GMT
In Endgame, during the “holo briefing”, Okoye mentions earthquakes under the sea - I wonder if this is an early reference to Namor? I did see chatter about it at the time. Interesting to see he’s confirmed! It’s one of the incident points on the map when Nick Fury is telling Stark about the Avengers initiative in Iron Man I think it is. It had Wakanda and a few others on there too. |
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Post by Onny on Sept 2, 2021 17:17:25 GMT
In Endgame, during the “holo briefing”, Okoye mentions earthquakes under the sea - I wonder if this is an early reference to Namor? I did see chatter about it at the time. Interesting to see he’s confirmed! It’s one of the incident points on the map when Nick Fury is telling Stark about the Avengers initiative in Iron Man I think it is. It had Wakanda and a few others on there too. God, that is an early reference hah. Guess they wanted to keep their options open from early on. It does make you wonder though; how far ahead has Feige planned things? 5 years? 10 years? |
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Post by simple on Sept 2, 2021 17:22:48 GMT
I’m assuming some of those were just easter eggs rather than plot teasers during phase one
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Post by simple on Sept 2, 2021 17:24:32 GMT
the Dr strange What if was excellent, the 3rd one was fine, the others were not great I’d rank them 4….. 2, 1, 3 so far. |
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Post by aubergine on Sept 3, 2021 3:45:32 GMT
It’s one of the incident points on the map when Nick Fury is telling Stark about the Avengers initiative in Iron Man I think it is. It had Wakanda and a few others on there too. God, that is an early reference hah. Guess they wanted to keep their options open from early on. It does make you wonder though; how far ahead has Feige planned things? 5 years? 10 years? I’d say they’ve got broad arcs planned for decades at this point, which could adapt as movies succeed or fail or times change. When they made The Avengers Whedon thought to tag Thanos in at the end, and then someone went “what if all these magic macguffins are The Infinity Gems?” and the broad arc developed from there, because prior to that the arc had been “make five movies that aren’t flops then a team-up movie now go.” From this point though I think the degree of planning they’ll show is going to be pretty intricate. Loki introduced what appears to be the Big Bad for this current cycle, although they may also break their own mold by simply having major foes be a running thread rather than a build to anything “Infinity War / Endgame” big. Kang might be a thread that runs through several properties but people who didn’t follow Loki and the rest will get to see him as just “bad guy with this agenda for this movie” and not as part of an overwhelming plot about multiple universes and bootstrap paradoxes. The MCU seems likely to retire Spider-Man after No Way Home, unless they strike further deals with Sony. I’m… doubtful they will. Three movies seems a good run, and they have the multiverse as an out to shunt this Spider-Man into Sony’s stable while Marvel just focuses on properties they own without any cross-corporate fuckery to deal with. Disney will always be thinking of how they can get the rights back, but they still have Fantastic Four and X-Men and dozens of other properties to deal with in the meantime, and will continue to get royalties from Sony’s Marvel movies without having to do the work. Shang-Chi came out of left field for me, I’ve not heard of the character, but it sounds like the movie is really good. Who knows what else they’ve got that might be unexpectedly great. I’m just remembering when Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was scripted years ago and Gunn made a comment that it set up stuff for the MCU for years to come. The brass wound back those comments later (after they fired Gunn) but I’d be surprised if it turned out Gunn was wrong. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 3, 2021 9:07:10 GMT
I suppose with the Guardians 3 stuff you've got loads of characters to work with. Isn't Adam Warlock supposed to be in there after his tease in 2? Also Nova surely has to be a thing soon. With FF you've also got a shit ton of storylines too. I wonder if they can actually make FF not shit, in my head s great origin take would be to set it in the 60s and have them trapped in the Negative Zone until present day.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Sept 3, 2021 9:21:18 GMT
Fantastic Four could be amazing but the films so far have made the characters one dimensional and fairly unlikeable.
My concern is yet another F4 origin story. Which would be beyond(er) tedious.
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Post by Derblington on Sept 3, 2021 9:58:33 GMT
I sort of feel like a FF origin is needed, purely to explain their introduction into the universe. The bigger the MCU gets the more these are going to be needed to explain how people are just popping up left, right and center. As long as it's not the movie's sole focus, and the actual story they create is engaging, it should be fine.
Having it set-up the way Hank Pym recap was in Ant-man would cover enough bases I reckon: SHIELD agents from the 60s/70s/80s either working with Pym on the Quantum realm or with Lawson on early PEGASUS. Lost in time, reappear in present day due to some multiverse-related hijinks. Pick-up from there.
I'll be sad if Spidey does get axed from the MCU after film three as I'd love to see a Spider-man and his Amazing Friends movie, with Human Torch and Ice-man.
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Post by simple on Sept 3, 2021 11:06:53 GMT
I suppose with the Guardians 3 stuff you've got loads of characters to work with. Isn't Adam Warlock supposed to be in there after his tease in 2? Also Nova surely has to be a thing soon. With FF you've also got a shit ton of storylines too. I wonder if they can actually make FF not shit, in my head s great origin take would be to set it in the 60s and have them trapped in the Negative Zone until present day. I will be a bit disappointed they don’t do Nova properly now they’ve got two space based threads to the MCU and have established so many of the alien races |
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Post by aubergine on Sept 3, 2021 11:18:20 GMT
I suppose with the Guardians 3 stuff you've got loads of characters to work with. Isn't Adam Warlock supposed to be in there after his tease in 2? Also Nova surely has to be a thing soon. With FF you've also got a shit ton of storylines too. I wonder if they can actually make FF not shit, in my head s great origin take would be to set it in the 60s and have them trapped in the Negative Zone until present day. I actually really like that, and it could give them a fun Austen Powers / The Brady Bunch Movie spin, but they’ll probably (if they even think of that) decide that Captain America was their “man out of time” story and people would compare them. they’ll have a real job making the FF feel fresh after three mediocre movies, but I’d be fine if they didn’t appear at all and Disney just have their rogues gallery to work with. you’d have to think they might do a Homecoming style take with the FF though, where they throw out the tropes we’ve seen before (Uncle Ben, May is an old woman, no one knows his secret identity) and find ways to make the character younger, fresher. Casting someone who isn’t obviously 35 to play Parker was a good start. But I don’t even want to start on thinking about how Fantastic Four could ever be really good, they’re fundamentally pretty naff characters IMO. |
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 3, 2021 11:29:35 GMT
The biggest thing FF needs is for the actors to be charismatic, none of the films have had that so far.
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Post by britesparc on Sept 3, 2021 14:38:11 GMT
I dunno, they've done alright for Human Torches.
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Post by 😎 on Sept 3, 2021 14:39:02 GMT
Oh come on, Miles Teller is overwhelming with charisma.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 15:52:24 GMT
Miles Teller looks like some uncanny valley cgi (also mix him with the guy who is in ready player one and the recent cyclops in xmen)
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Post by britesparc on Sept 3, 2021 16:14:28 GMT
Does anybody else find there are always two actors that you just get mixed up in this way? I remember when I was a kid not being able to tell Alec Baldwin and Andy Garcia apart.
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