Marvel Cinematic Universe

I really like that X-Men '97 very much mostly avoids the modern day, post-modern quips.

Characters are *very* dramatic at times and it's just accepted. They use codenames and nobody feels obliged to crack a one-liner.

Imagine if somebody in the live action MCU output introduced themselves as (early spoilers, just in case). There's no way somebody (and at this point it could be anyone, most of the love action character personalities have been homogenised and are essentially interchangeable) wouldn't make a quip at how silly it is.

That's not to say there aren't quips, there's a ton of humour, they're very specific to the characters and not just the writers trying to excuse the nature of the series.

There's nothing wrong with that kind of wry Whedon-esque dialogue per se but it's so very nice to have something different.

The show isn't afraid to be be silly and cheesy and it's so much better for it.

And each character actually feels unique.

Also I like how horny everyone is. Whilst the live action stuff has relationships it often feels a bit perfunctory, here pretty much everyone is horny and it's great.

I think I must have known this but forgotten, but Billy Kaplan is in Agatha All Along, played by one of the guys from Heartstoppers.

Which is... Interesting.

God, I could only manage a meh from that. Also Hardy looking like he's been putting on the pork pies.

Looks pretty fun to me. The first two felt a bit low budget for superhero/villain films, but this looks like they've upped it a bit.

They weren't amazing films, but still far preferable to the other nonsense Sony have been farting out.

I thought the first one was good dumb fun but Let There Be Carnage kinda sucked. The whole Carnage subplot didn't work for me.

I remain optimistic about this tho.

Also re: the No Way Home connection. The scene in this trailer is clearly in the Venom universe, right? Otherwise, y'know, that's Baron Mordo in a military uniform.

The Venom films are fine, entertaining enough, but like all the Sony films they feel more 2000s than 2020s.

I’m not sure how the first one took almost a billion dollars at the box office. But then I nearly paid a fiver to rent Madam Web the other night so what would I know.

The problem with the Venom movies is that Venom always looks like he is coated in a layer of jizz

I thought the first was about the same quality as Suicide Squad (the Ayer version, so essentially unwatchable shit) and the second was worse. They're awful.

I've not seen Madam Web yet either (coz let's face it, there's no way I'm paying for it, they need to stick that shit on Netflix), but I think you may be right re: Tom Hardy. It's the weirdness he brings to the Eddie/Venom relationship that elevates the films. And I think a lot of that he came up with himself. Apparently he improvised climbing into the lobster tank in the first film.

Whatever works for you. And he is the main selling point. The films are absolute fucking shite and Hardy is 100% the only reason anyone even remotely cares about them. Its actually quite amazing how he has single handedly carried the franchise into a third movie.

He's the only reason I'd bother with the new one. Ive not been arsed to watched Morbius or Madame Web and there is no universe where Kraven is interesting but I suspect they are all will be around the same level of shitness.

I don't really remember much of the first two Venom films (who he was up against or why) but I do remember watching both as post pub films and being entertained enough - and yes, it's Tom Hardy carrying them, but that's enough for an entertaining flick. I'm more interested in watching a 3rd than I am from the main MCU having bounced off it and not been interested at all in the last 2 (or is it 3)

Wolveriiiiine! Cutlery for fingeeeeerrrs!

I can confirm what you already know. Madame Web is bloody terrible.