zephro
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Post by zephro on Nov 8, 2023 20:44:09 GMT
I do hope it bucks the trend and isn't shit. Just as I really like Captain Marvel the character. Plus the first movie, though the 90a soundtrack may have been doing some heavy lifting.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 8, 2023 20:47:01 GMT
I've got a strong feeling it's going to shit the bed and could be quite the turning point for Marvel Studios going forward.
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Post by 😎 on Nov 8, 2023 21:02:36 GMT
There've been plenty of leaks about it, so spoilers and whatnot. It finally does what they've been teasing for the past bajillion years and brings Fox X-Men into the MCU. Kelsey Grammer is back as Beast, apparently permanently. They're setting up the Fox Universe to be the Ultimate Marvel equivalent and then use Secret Wars as the big reboot |
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Post by simple on Nov 8, 2023 22:42:19 GMT
The trailer does leave that door open
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Lizard
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Post by Lizard on Nov 9, 2023 1:50:06 GMT
There've been plenty of leaks about it, so spoilers and whatnot. It finally does what they've been teasing for the past bajillion years and brings Fox X-Men into the MCU. Kelsey Grammer is back as Beast, apparently permanently. They're setting up the Fox Universe to be the Ultimate Marvel equivalent and then use Secret Wars as the big reboot I hope that Nicholas Lyndhurst comes along too. Though I suppose he s more DC. |
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Post by simple on Nov 10, 2023 10:31:54 GMT
So do I take it that the end of Loki season 2 means that he’s been written out same as Iron Man, Cap and GOTG now?
Also, if they want to ditch Majors then this episode could easily be read as the conclusion of Kang’s arc too |
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Post by apollo on Nov 10, 2023 11:34:07 GMT
I do think they should start xmen and new films as complete fresh start, no need for magical bullshit device that changes the universe to bring mutants into the world
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 10, 2023 13:52:22 GMT
So do I take it that the end of Loki season 2 means that he’s been written out same as Iron Man, Cap and GOTG now?
Also, if they want to ditch Majors then this episode could easily be read as the conclusion of Kang’s arc too i could see how he could essentially take over the role of Majors going forward. |
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Post by peekconfusion on Nov 10, 2023 14:53:46 GMT
Just finished watching The Marvels. I enjoyed it but it won't be for everyone (to put it mildly). Calling it Marvel's lowest point is ridiculous though. As to asking where they go from here - they made that very, very clear.
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Post by simple on Nov 10, 2023 15:39:34 GMT
So do I take it that the end of Loki season 2 means that he’s been written out same as Iron Man, Cap and GOTG now?
Also, if they want to ditch Majors then this episode could easily be read as the conclusion of Kang’s arc too i could see how he could essentially take over the role of Majors going forward. Obviously Marvels will add to the direction of travel but purely on Loki S2’s ending I think Loki unmaking and remaking all of the timelines like that basically means they can do whatever they want now. More than all the other multiverse stories they’ve done this one killed all the other realities and then revived them into Loki’s new world tree so Kang can be dead forever or Majors recast and you’ve got a perfectly plausible in-universe explanation for either.
My preference would be that they forget about him since he’s not been a great villain when they have used him, even if this is just what was originally intended as a prelude to him being the next proper big bad. |
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Post by pierrepressure on Nov 10, 2023 15:59:15 GMT
Rate that Loki finale. Not sure it needs a S3 now.
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Post by beastmaster on Nov 10, 2023 16:44:03 GMT
Been reported that…
“CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD’ is reportedly getting extensive reshoots after negative test scores
3 major sequences will be cut with reshoots apparently happening from January to May”.
Source is Jeff Sneider who I’ve been following for years now. He’s really well connected and when he breaks a story it’s pretty much correct.
I’m totally not surprised by this. I think it’s the same team behind the TV series. They have got to do better!
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 10, 2023 16:44:47 GMT
Yeah there was something about how they did the Loki bit, the style of it and direction that I really liked. One of the best 10 minutes of Marvel stuff in a long time even though what happened on screen could be summed up in a sentence.
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Post by simple on Nov 10, 2023 16:51:30 GMT
Rate that Loki finale. Not sure it needs a S3 now. Sticking a third season on after such a beautiful resolution would be so unnecessary. Its strange because I thought season 1 was really flat and dull, visually and plotwise, but season 2 had some of the best most cinematic sequences of this phase outside of No Way Home and GOTG3. Season 2 should have been a movie for me but there’s no way season 1 could have been. Unless you somehow roll them both into one film thats three quarters season 2 and one quarter season 1. |
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Post by geefe on Nov 10, 2023 18:28:11 GMT
Can I skip series 1?
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Post by gamingdave on Nov 10, 2023 18:57:47 GMT
Not if you want to know what's happened |
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 10, 2023 19:16:53 GMT
It is effectively 1 series split in two.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 10, 2023 19:19:01 GMT
Just finished watching The Marvels. I enjoyed it but it won't be for everyone (to put it mildly). Calling it Marvel's lowest point is ridiculous though. As to asking where they go from here - they made that very, very clear. I enjoyed myself too, it's not going to be in my top 10 MCU films but it's certainly not the dumpster fire some parts of the internet are portraying it. I do think you'd get more out of it if you've got a Disney+ sub considering the origins of Monica and Kamala powers and one other person from just before the credits roll but Ms Marvel's origins is pretty much literally illustrated for the audience right at the start while Professor Marvel's (  ) is very brief. I thought the trio worked very well together and Iman Vellani is clearly still really enjoying herself playing Kamala while the two older characters are lifted by her enthusiasm.
A lot of it is certainly played for laughs and it works pretty well, something truly daft I figured out was going to happen lead to some rather good laughs from people's terror which is not something you'd normally expect. The villain is almost a bit perfunctory but even her motivation makes a lot of sense and you'd have some sympathy in what she's doing if she was just doing it in a teeny-tiny less of a way that is practically genocide. Trying to save your home world after Carol Danvers has totally fucked it up is understandable but maybe stealing things other people need to live is not the way to do it. Supporting characters wise the Khans continue to be a great proxy for the audience as regular people being swept along by their daughter and they are fun and Nick Fury? Thank fuck this isn't Secret Invasion Nick Fury, we don't need to see that bloke again, this one is far better. As for the mid-credits scene well it wasn't unexpected and Beast pretty much says it's all a bit ridiculous and that's after the bombshell moment that happens just before, Deadpool 3 being the next MCU film makes a lot of sense Oh and something about the runtime, it passes at a fair old rate and prepare yourself : I think it could have done with a bit more time, especially when it comes to Monica's origins. |
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Post by simple on Nov 10, 2023 20:47:36 GMT
Marvel seems to have a thing for villains who are basically in the right, if a little too genocidal in how they go about it.
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Post by peekconfusion on Nov 10, 2023 20:53:01 GMT
Marvel seems to have a thing for villains who are basically in the right, if a little too genocidal in how they go about it. When I first watched Infinity War, after the credits rolled, the entire screening was dead silent having watched everyone melt away, then somebody piped up rather loudly - "Does anyone else think Thanos had a point?" |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 10, 2023 21:02:35 GMT
I bet Marvel wish they could go back to those days.
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Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 11, 2023 8:30:08 GMT
Rate that Loki finale. Not sure it needs a S3 now. Is be surprised if there was one. This was definitely written as being the end of his journey. It wasn’t bad, though. Live, Die, Repeat got a bit old but it had some nice touches and it was super well directed. Benson and Moorhead smashed it, as did whoever was doing the music. It does close the door on Kang if they want to since they are now the Kang Murder Gang It’s almost a bit sad, really. This stands so far above every other marvel tv show it really illustrates how low effort and pedestrian they have been. |
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 11, 2023 10:40:11 GMT
It’s certainly the one that feels like it’s what one creative mind/group wanted to make. I can’t say the same about SI or Lawyer Hulk.
The ending managed to make it feel like that’s the sort of thing the TV Marvel approach was made for.
I could have done with less of the McGuffin shit throughout and that Hunter got seemed to get forgotten about but I can live with that.
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Post by simple on Nov 11, 2023 12:29:01 GMT
I wonder if the next phase multiverse storytelling could be to dissolve the MCU rather than bring everyone together. It’d be more of an artistic choice than financial one but it would free them up from the cycle of every story just being the set up for the next.
And gives us an in-universe explanation to ignore the Eternals.
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Post by Saul1138 on Nov 11, 2023 13:12:18 GMT
I would echo the sentiment that The Marvels is quite good. Not brilliant, but far better than I was expecting after the pre release critiques. Kamala and family are the stars of the film. But Brie Larson looks like she was enjoying herself more this time out.
It has a good, but misguided villain. The humour doesn’t feel forced. It sat perfectly fine. If you hate CGI fests, this probably isn’t for you. But it felt like quite a self contained story, which adds to its strengths.
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Post by pierrepressure on Nov 12, 2023 23:26:03 GMT
I watched The Marvels and liked it.
Probably the best mid credit scene that I can remember too.
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Post by Saul1138 on Nov 13, 2023 1:14:10 GMT
I watched The Marvels and liked it. Probably the best mid credit scene that I can remember too. I found it unnecessarily long, breaking to have the Red Hot Chilli Peppers do their entire back catalogue was too much. They could have just played Paralell Universe and Otherside and been done. |
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geefe
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Post by geefe on Nov 13, 2023 12:14:30 GMT
Looks it's fared poorly at the box office. They can't even Give It Away
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Post by gamingdave on Nov 13, 2023 12:23:20 GMT
Caught up with the finale of Loki at the weekend, and was very satisfied with the ending. A great show (stunningly made with top draw props, sets and costumes - it shows they can do it when they try) that had a solid narrative and kept us entertained whilst trying to guess where it could go each week.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 13, 2023 12:31:38 GMT
Looks it's fared poorly at the box office. They can't even Give It Away Felt like it was always doomed to fail at the box office. They just Can't Stop the bad word of mouth it had pre-release. (Honestly, these RHCP references are going over my head. I've not seen the film yet, so I'm assuming they will make sense when I do.) By The Way, I am quite looking forward to seeing this though. I've got a feeling it will be a fun time. I enjoyed Ms. Marvel and the original Captain Marvel though. |
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